Piezoelectric Tennis Rackets 143
morcheeba writes "EETimes has an article on a piezoelectric tennis racket made by Head Sport AG. It uses piezoelectric fibers to damp vibrations and, due to regulations, it doesn't contain a battery. Although it's been out a while, it's now gaining credibility with professionals and has made it into the quarterfinals of the French Open."
Re:*sigh* (Score:2)
Sure, there's sand volleyball, for starters, and you've got chess at the other extreme of the physical/mental spectrum. I'm sure if you spent some time thinking you'd come up with plenty more.
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While this is indeed true with respect to equipment, I do not believe that it is also true with respect to individual athletic ability. Besides simply the sort of advanced training a well-funded athlete receives, there is the severely unbalancing factor of body alteration. Currently it is mostly hormones, but genetic engineering is in our immediate future in its most simple forms. The future will only see greater use of genetic engineering, and in 20-200 years time (depending on who you ask) the use of nanotechnology, cybernetics, and surely other kinds of advanced enhancement of human athletic and mental skill.
Perhaps advanced medical techniques will make it possible to determine who has not scientifically altered their body, so that pure humans can compete on a level playing field. The altered competitions will probably be more exciting (as they are today), however. But they will be mainly contests of money and courage to undergo risky medical procedures.
Re:*sigh* (Score:1)
The wooden racket - great for egg and sppon races, crap for tennis
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Naked Olypics (Score:3, Interesting)
There's nothing inherently fair about naked wrestling, though, nor inherently unfair about using more advanced equipment. All other things being equal, including skill level, a large muscular person will win a wrestling match with a smaller slighter person. That's why weight classes were invented, to try and make sure that it was the skill that won out. This logic still only partially levels the field though; some people have inherently, genetically faster reflexes than others. What are you going to do, force them to bely down a couple of shots of reflex inhibitor (flavor optional) before competing?
The competition in sports is between two or more people, under some arbitrary set of rules. If you want to make sure everybody uses the same equipment, then you specifiy it in the rules; bats may or may not be made of aluminum, players may or may not ride an electric cart to the next stage of the competition.
Personally, I'd like to see both a naked olympics (not necessarily actually naked, but not technically assisted) AND a total free-for-all - not only are you allowed to be "professional" under the ridiculously convoluted Olympic rules regarding acceptance of money, but you can take drugs, train in a 3G centrifuge, be surgically cyborged into a totally transhuman state, et cetera... It'd only be a decade or so before all US objection to genetic engineering faded away once ESPN started lobbying, I betcha!
Re:*sigh* (Score:2, Interesting)
== less stress on elbows ( lowers risk of tennis elbow ) == less fatigue == longer play time == more practice == better 'talent'
So, by your token, more $$$ COULD == higher talent through increased practice time and play, and by all means should be allowed in competition.
Until I see you on ESPN2 swinging a stiff racquet for 10+ years without surgery on your elbow, shut your whining trap. Most ALL sports that require equipment ( other than a brain ) are dependant on technological improvments.
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I am surprised (Score:2, Interesting)
Now, many metals have been developed that have a 'memory' I am surprised these haven't been used in conjunction with the common carbon-fibre thread used now.
Re:I am surprised (Score:1)
And when the racket's owned by someone like John Mcenroe, it's lucky to last the set...
Everybody knows... (Score:1, Offtopic)
other applications (Score:4, Interesting)
I would like to see if it is usable in automobile suspensions. Active electronic dampening should out perform any hydraulics.
Come to think of it, this technology could be used to make an active muffler for auto exhaust systems. It could also absorb driveline vibrations.
Wonder if it could do anything for crankshaft vibration?
hanzie
Re:other applications (Score:2)
How about an active automobile suspension that also has a millimeter wave radar looking forward to anticipate bumps and potholes?
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Can't this just be said for all current televised sports?
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Different strokes for different folks, of course. Guess you could just watch NASCAR. "Geez, Darrell, just put your foot on the floor and turn left! 'Tain't all that complicated!"
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As far as the best wheel-to-wheel racing action goes, British touring car races simply can not be beat. Those guys are NUTS. Very competitive, very fast, very unpredictable. Kinda like NASCAR, only interesting.
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You probably haven't seen the Dakar ralley [dakar.com] in that case. This race is really an all round skills event for the drivers, co-pilots and mechanics. The trucks with the spare parts even participate in the race.
Re:other applications (Score:1)
Eventually such systems were banned...:-)
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Not the first Piezoelectric Application (Score:2, Flamebait)
Next, the aimbot (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Next, the aimbot (Score:3, Funny)
Yeah, every shot automatically becomes a head-shot
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Next it's going to be a personal coach (Score:5, Funny)
*THWACK*
"Lame wrist!"
*THWACK*
"Hit harder!"
*THWACK*
"Is that the best you can do?"
*THWACK*
"Try aiming it"
*THWACK*
"Moron"
*THWACK*
"You'd think you could hit the field, it's big enough for Chris..."
*CRASH* *CRASH* *THUD* *THUD* *THUD*
"Why is the world going dark...?"
"I'm afraid, Mr. McEnroe."
"My mind is going...."
Re:Next it's going to be a personal coach (Score:1)
"Idiot"
"Moron"
"Loser"
My game sucks now (Score:1, Funny)
I have a version of this racquet that I modified to use a car battery (which I strap to my back while playing). And although vibration is greatly reduced I have to say that my game hasn't improved.
Getting a perceived advantage (Score:4, Interesting)
The Australian Football League allowed the use of gloves 7 or so years back. The AFL has been in existance over 100 years without them but that perceived advantage lead to half of the players (at least) playing the game using them. Juniors at the local clubs naturally followed suit, and the sport as a whole suffered because of fewer numbers participating due to the cost.
I love technology, but the advantages and disadvantages of somthing like this have got to looked at carefully before this should be permitted at any level.
Re:Getting a perceived advantage (Score:1)
Re:Getting a perceived advantage (Score:2)
...and if you are on a field playing a sport that takes a million to play you are likely not getting the competition you should. How un-sportsman-like?
It isn't the idea that you are locking out "the poorest" players - the problem is that you aren't likely to get "the best" players because the entry fee is so high.
Who wants to play with a bunch of inbreed snobs?
Of course you complain about spelling "a lot" as "alot" while you fail to capitalize your own sentences.
Re:Getting a perceived advantage (Score:2)
Buying accessories may be fun for 'hobbies' where you are the only one required to participate, but for sports and other team/league affiliated interests, economy and quality of actual play is much more important.
Who cares what kind of gadget lets you cheat while playing touch football... doesn't count on my field.
Re:Getting a perceived advantage (Score:2, Insightful)
None of this has much to do with tennis, which has seen its popularity fall through the floor since the 70s and 80s. Look at any country club, they don't have nearly as many tennis courts or tournaments as in days past.
I completely agree with the inbred remark, that's why I pointed out the pitfalls of zero-cost of entry...who wants to play with a bunch of hicks? I capitalized my sentences, too, is that OK?
Re:Getting a perceived advantage (Score:1)
White Trash and Rednecks? (Score:2)
Like Soccer? Played because anybody can lay down two shirts as goals, and kick a can or rock to start playing? Making it the most popular sport in the world because of the low cost.
But, if forced to make an estimate, most white trash and rednecks like baseball and football, both of which require a much higher level of initial investment... And, how's that explain the popularity of Nascar?
I think the "low tech" sports like soccer seem to have more appeal to those who are more interested in the athletics of the sport. Where-as, there are people who just like "gear" and will do things just because they like to have/wear the gear... I don't think income/intellegence has a whole lot to do with it.
Re:White Trash and Rednecks? (Score:2)
Yes, there's people all over the place racing in Nascar-style cars! Not. Sure, Nascar is popular for *watching*, not *playing*. The whole discussion is about which sports people like to *play*.
But, if forced to make an estimate, most white trash and rednecks like baseball and football, both of which require a much higher level of initial investment...
How does football require more initial investment than soccer? Both only require a ball!
I'll agree baseball requires a little more, but it's been around for so long that almost every kid's father has a glove and a bat lying around, so no investment is required most of the time.
Re:White Trash and Rednecks? (Score:2)
Am I to understand that there are soccer leagues out there playing with a can and a couple of shirts? Lets compare apples to apples.
A bunch of kids just playing could as easilly play football as soccer.
If you are talking about league play, then while each player will need all the pads for football, generally you see people buying new shoes, shin guards, outfits, and minivans/suv's for Soccer
Re:Getting a perceived advantage (Score:2)
1 - Human challenge
2 - Absolute playing
For 1) you basically can outrule all the gloves and innovation. The old golf clubs where just fine, if everyone has to use an old club, noone has an advantage. So innovation only hurts the ones that can't afford the new shit.
For 2) you need innovation. Because the same person can do (following the golf example) a better score that with the ape-era clubs. So you can say golfers are improving their play (in reality, techonology is improving their play...). Nobody really gets any advantage here, cos mostly everyone in a proffesional league will adopt the innovations. Yet, it's better to see a 10 under par score than a 5 one.
One last thingie, technological advances change the way games must be played. This is not necesarily good IHMO. For example, in tennis, the serving is out of balance right know, because the net altitude is fixed and the serving square is also fixed, but the rackets are so much better. Imagine us in 2235 AD serving at 325 kmh and all the game limited to trying to win 1 non-serving game.
Technology alters games. But we must not forget that the account for a lot of the sport organization revenues, so they are always allow in a kind of managed obsolecence way.
I love technology and all... (Score:1)
Re:I love technology and all... (Score:1)
How far can this be pushed? Energy going to waste! (Score:3, Interesting)
That is to say, if the racket can make a difference based on the energy it can recover from the ball impact, what could you do if you built a self generating power system into the racket handle, much like technology used in a self winding electronic watch, but at a much larger scale? Of course, without a battery the power generated could be stored in a capacitor until used. While this approach seems far beyond the sprit of the game, one could say the same about piezoelectric technology in the first place. I'm just thinking, if it going to be used at all, why not get energy from all racket movement as well as ball impact.
Re:How far can this be pushed? Energy going to was (Score:2)
It's like the old gyroscope in the luggage trick. As long as you're walking straigt on everything is fine but as soon as you try to turn a corner you run into problems.
Wow.........this goes beyond surprising....... (Score:1)
Nice shot (Score:4, Insightful)
I wonder though, could they make the strings sound a certain tone depending on where the ball was hit. It seems it might make a nice training tool for beginners if they could hear, as well as feel a good hit.
Re:Nice shot (Score:1)
Bending the Rules (Score:3, Interesting)
They just didn't anticipate using a tennis ball's impact energy to warp the racquet to counteract the player's mistakes, which is what this racquet does.
So okay, I guess we can look forward to gyro-torque batting gloves, pass-booster elbow wraps for quarterbacks, and hockey pucks with tooth-targeting microcameras.
What a Racket! (Score:1, Funny)
Just as any discerning audiophile can appreciate the much cleaner sound of the most expensive speaker cables, so too can sophisticated and highly refined tennis practitioners immediately feel the difference that the most expensive prestige racquet makes.
i love it (Score:1)
It doesn't matter (Score:1)
I think I'll retch if I have to see, and hear, freakin' Monica Seles anymore. Bleh.
2015: R.U.R. anounces new tennis racket (Score:1)
This "robot," which has been previously imprinted with the player's memory and skills, will predict the reactions the player would want to make, and perform them with greater speed, accuracy, and strength.
Although the player can hold the hand of the robat while it performs to make it look like they're actually doing something, if they wish they can just go sit in a lounge chair and have a lemonade until the match is over instead.
bleh. (Score:2)
Homer: Lisa made this perpetual motion machine today... and it just keeps going faster and faster.
New wonderbras now? Pizeoelectric bra! (Score:2)
For guys, it'd be pizeoelectric underwear and the uhm.. jostling ( hey guys.. you know what I'm talking about ) would generate some electricy.. but I cant htink of what guys would need to hook up to it other than the PDA, uh but beer cup cooler sounds about right..
Watch out. (Score:2)
Re:Watch out. (Score:2)
The distinction was deemed necessary due to the technical improvements to the bicycle and position that made Boardman's hour so fast. The so-called 'superman' position developed by Scot Graeme Obree was outlawed in 1997, bringing to an end an era where the hour record was a battle of technology as well as the rider versus the wind.
Piezoelectric tennis shoes? (Score:1)
Why not put some piezoelectric technology in the players' tennis shoe while they're at it? Give some extra oomph into their spring :)
Still, how much power can this piezo element gather anyhow? Enough to drive a LED on the tennis shoe (or ball ;) or to actually do something useful? Somehow i feel that the power gained from the impact when the player hits the ball with his/her piezo-racket would not be too much, and so the dampening effect would be pretty weak. Or then they have very efficient (and lightweight) mechanics in it.
Re:Piezoelectric tennis shoes? (Score:2)
Just one example of tennis and physics:
http://www.kent.k12.wa.us/staff/trobinso/physic
You might be surprise at how many lbs per in. squared go in to a good tennis swat. Definitely more than enough to power an efficient piezo device that will improve your stroke tens of percents.
Uh oh... (Score:1)
So external batteries are not allowed, but piezoelectric materials are okay, because they're "self-powered"?
Ok, am i the only one here who is seriously worried about what they're going to come up with once tabletop fusion is economical?
as someone who worked for the ITF... (Score:2, Insightful)
Disclaimer - I don't work there any more so these aren't official comments ;) Although I'm still writing my PhD thesis into the mechanics of tennis balls that the ITF funded...
But the real question is... (Score:1, Funny)
First done with Skis (Score:1)
Anyone lucky enough to own a pair of these, or are /. and skiing mutually exclusive?
Conservation of energy (Score:1)
Unless I have missed something major here - always possible - the effectiveness of this system could be minimal. Reminds me of those ads that used to offer "Up to a such and such percent change in something" - where, of course, "up to" includes zero.
The situation with things like active suspension is quite different because plenty of outside power (from the alternator) is available to drive the moving parts, the same as with power steering and ABS.
Perhaps the real power source is a cold fusion unit in the handle, running off sweat.
Olin and K2 skiis have done this since 97 (Score:1)
The skis used a plate manufactured by Active Control eXperts, Inc [acx.com]. Now owned by Cymer [cymer.com]. Read more about the QuickPack actuators here [acx.com]. For info about the ski plate see here [acx.com]. The plates are used in Fightjet skins, waterskis, speakers, snowboards, shocks, etc.
I raced with the Olins and I swear they are my favorite skis ever - soft yet stiff when needed at high speeds and high vibration periods.
This is how it works (Score:3, Informative)
Pictures and a more detailed description can be found here [popularmechanics.com]
Re:This is how it works (Score:1)
Not mention the "microelectronic circuit" which contains resistors, inductors and capacitors. And no active circuitry?
OK cynical suggestion. The actual damping is due to the composite design of aligned fibres embedded in a matrix. But that's been known about for years and isn't patentable. So add a critical design feature that is barely functional, and make that the basis of a claim. That should give us long enough protection...till the next innovation
Would a business do a thing like that?
Well, I have to admit I have full details of a US patent, fully granted, that is based on similar principles and for just the same reason.
Do, in fact, ursine mammals defecate in sylvian environments?
All a bit like .net, really.
for consumers (Score:1)
This "technology" is semi-common in skis. Companies like, hmmm, HEAD.
The folks who put on LEDs to "show the dampening" stopped cause it was just a stupid gimmick that cost too much per ski.
Me? I think it makes no real different in skis. My ski's are attached to my feet and legs. They don't need help with the minor vibrations (eg. not the bumps). The dampening is minor. This isn't a power generator, it's supposed to just reduce the little "buzz" vibrations.
But there are perhaps wrist/elbow injuries associated with the "buzz" of wacking those balls around.
Gimmick still?
Oh yeah, but people will buy it. People like my uncle (who I can still beat with my 1978 racket).
Wrong wrong wrong (Score:1)
In fact, Pete Sampras has been playing with a racket that was introduced in 1984 - which is more like a good old fashioned wood frame than not.
Pure marketing gimmick - I'll bet money that Head won't be using the technology next year.
K2 (Score:1)
From a physics geek point of view, it sounds like they're using a spiffy inductance circuit attached to the strings to damp the strings (just figure out the harmonic frequency of the string and tune the inductor to counteract it), though I've no idea how the rest of it works.
But very pretty indeed
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have you watched the final today? (Score:1)
if you can't say anything nice... (Score:1)
Re:Oh dear..Here we go again... (Score:2, Insightful)
This is a site covering news for nerds. A bit of tech such as this is interesting, to those who care to look.
SLASHDOT IS NOT ONLY ABOUT OPENSOURCE, SO SHUT THE FUCK UP.
Re:die now plz (Score:2)
no, really..