Depleted Uranium May Stop Kidneys "In Days" 71
James writes: "The New Scientist, Reuters, and the San Jose Mercury News, are all carrying stories on a U.K. Royal Society report which confirms that depleted uranium shells, used widely in the Gulf War and the Balkan conflicts, are in fact deadly to bystanders. Moreover, it seems that U.S. servicepeople have been most at risk, and civilians remain at risk years after the use of such shells. The Royal Society report is being described as portraying the situation in the most favorable light, and critics say the truth is far worse."
On the other hand (Score:3, Funny)
Re:On the other hand (Score:2, Insightful)
The radioactivity of depleted uranium is very low. Lower than uranium ore, oddly enough. That is due to the fact that the ore has radium, but the pure metal doesn't. Anyway, if it's less radioactive than ore, it's not to bad at all. Uranium Ore is not a radiological hazard. They make fiestaware plates out of it. And those are perfectly safe.
Anyway, uranium is dangerous because it is a heavy metal, like lead. You wouldn't want to eat it. However, I think this article and these studies are a little sensationalistic. They said you need 1 microgram per gram of kidney. Most soldiers got
Re:On the other hand (Score:2)
Re:On the other hand (Score:1)
Re:On the other hand (Score:2, Insightful)
(now watch me get modded down by US citizens)
Secondly, that's a big relief to find out!
OK, they didn't
If you think I'm being paranoid/anti-american/whatever, come to my position: how would
Trian
Re:On the other hand (Score:3, Funny)
OH MY GOD! Those poor people could be getting heavy metal poisoning from those high-explosive shells we're trying to kill them with!!!
"deadly to bystanders" (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:"deadly to bystanders" (Score:3, Interesting)
Exactly. And since we have in the past bombed Osama bin Laden's encampments and caves, and we are informed Pakistan that bin Laden has failing kidneys, and may in fact of died this winter if he was not able to get to a working dialysis machine, it may eventually be discovered that the US killed him years ago (following the Embassy bombings?) but that it just took hime years to die.
Re:"deadly to bystanders" (Score:2)
The problem is that while it may be slightly beneficial to us regarding the targets who are exposed to them for a short period of time, the soldiers that transport them and the civilians who live nearby are FAR more at risk for complications due to the relatively low levels of radition.
In essence, having one of these shells land nearby is not going to kill you from the radiation, but transporting a large number of them so that they can be fired poses a much higher risk.
Re:"deadly to bystanders" (Score:1)
Elgon
A by-product of nuclear reactors (not) (Score:1)
I thought that depleted uranium ( u235 )was what was left over after you took out all the radioactive kind ( u238 ) , and what you get after you put the u238 in a reactor is plutonium among other things.
Re:A by-product of nuclear reactors (not) (Score:3, Informative)
Re:A by-product of nuclear reactors (not) (Score:1)
Although, it isnot used for "Bullets and Bombshells," but rather Sabot rounds.
Re:A by-product of nuclear reactors (not) (Score:1)
Isn't the "depleted uranium" used in the rounds what is left over in this refining process? Remember - even if it worked perfectly (which it doesn't), there would be 5 units of (non-radioactive) U-238 for each refined unit of 97% U-238 / 3% U-235.
This U-238 is basically harmless waste (though it does still contain some U-235, it should by definition be far less than the fraction in the raw material), but very dense. Why not use it to make bullets more heavy?
Kiwaiti
Re:A by-product of nuclear reactors (not) (Score:1)
Yes.
To clear up the confusion, U-235 is the stuff in the reactors (usually at around 3% concentration, although there's some variation) and in bombs (at near 100% concentration). As part of the separation process, you get large quantities of nearly pure U-238. It has become depleted of U-235, hence the name. This is uranium which has never seen the inside of a reactor, not reprocessed waste. Because uranium is both naturally extremely dense and pyrophoric (at elevated temperatures), it's use in weapons is something of a no-brainer.
As a generic heavy metal, that it causes heavy-metal poisoning (e.g. liver and kidney damage) once it gets into your system in large quantities should also be a no-brainer.
-JS
Re:A by-product of nuclear reactors (not) (Score:1)
Re:A by-product of nuclear reactors (not) (Score:1)
Density isn't the only reason for the +2 bonus (Score:3, Informative)
Oh no!!!!! The trees!!! (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Oh no!!!!! The trees!!! (Score:2)
Sarcasm noted. However, the object of all this fighting is to control the land in question; strewing toxic heavy metals all over the place kind of defeats the ultimate purpose of having your people live on the land you're fighting over.
A little exaggerated writeup, no? (Score:3, Insightful)
Not the worst Slashdot writeup ever, but a pretty skewed one.
What I don't get is this -- is this supposed to explain elevated cancer rates in Gulf War and Balkans veterans? How many friendly fire DU hits were there?
Re:A little exaggerated writeup, no? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:A little exaggerated writeup, no? (Score:4, Interesting)
The kidney is the most likely organ to suffer toxic effects from uranium. The few human studies that have been done indicate that kidney failure is likely to occur within a few days at concentrations above 50 micrograms of uranium per gram of kidney.
Minor kidney problems are thought to be linked with concentrations of about 1 microgram per gram of kidney.
The Royal Society estimated that most soldiers would have levels of 0.005 micrograms per gram of kidney, or less.
Soldiers who survived a tank hit with depleted uranium ammunition would likely have kidney uranium levels of 4 micrograms per gram.
In other words, the slashdot write-up is an example of the worst kind of anti-nuclear hysterical ignorance. This isn't the first time [slashdot.org] such technophobia has appeared on Slashdot.
Re:bullcrap (Score:1)
Re:bullcrap (Score:3, Informative)
The case of Gulf War veterans will not be aided by deliberately misleading headlines.
From what I read in the article, Italian troops in Bosnia had a lower incidence of cancer than the general population.
The facts cited in the article make widespread harm from DU weapons seem unlikely, especially in the short term.
In my world, I base my opinions on the data, which is something that it seems you should play closer attention to in your so-called "reality".
Re:bullcrap (Score:2)
"Italian researchers began studying the illnesses of veterans of Balkans peacekeeping missions after noting an apparently high number of cancers.
Scores of other countries then announced they would also begin screening their troops for depleted uranium exposure and unexplained illnesses."
But...
" Italy subsequently reported it found the incidence of cancer in soldiers who served in Bosnia and Kosovo was lower than that in the general population. "
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/bayarea/news/nation/
In other words, people took anecdotal evidence, reached a certain conclusion, but after further study found that the initial impression was erroneous.
Double sheesh.
Re:A little exaggerated writeup, no? (Score:3, Insightful)
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>In other words, the slashdot write-up is an example of the worst kind of anti-nuclear hysterical ignorance.
Agreed.
And while we're at it, if I were a soldier whose tank survived a strike from DU artillery, I'd be thankful my kidneys (along with the rest of my internal organs) were still inside my torso, and that I was still alive to worry about how my kidneys would function at some point in the future.
In other news today, the Friends of Gaia report that infantrymen shot by lead bullets often report negative health effects. Radiant Willow Moon, head spokesbeing for the FoG, has urged the United Nations to pass a resolution banning the use of such ecologically unfriendly bullets in favor of bullets fashioned from naturally-occurring stores of driftwood or pebbles.
Re:A little exaggerated writeup, no? (Score:1)
Sarcasm noted. However, there is a serious effort underway to replace lead with less toxic materials [dtic.mil]. Keeping not just battlefields (on which people will eventually live and work), but training grounds, free of toxic heavy metals is a good thing.
Re:A little exaggerated writeup, no? (Score:1)
however DU is more dangerous to our own troops who fire the rounds than this article mentions. This article [gulfwarvets.com] lists the number of U.S and Brit soldiers afected by it as pretty substantial from the Gulf War. Note it's not a article from some tabloid, the Sunday-Times UK is fairly reputable i believe.
i could care less about studies done on the DU affects on people were trying to friggin shoot, but it would be nice to know they are trying their best to make sure thoose same rounds dont hurt our own men just by firing them
Why use Depleted Uranium in the first place? (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Why use Depleted Uranium in the first place? (Score:2, Informative)
Kiwaiti
Re:Why use Depleted Uranium in the first place? (Score:1)
Case in point: Say a bullet was designed with a sharp point for armor-piercing purposes or 'splintering' points for maximum internal damage. Would the fact that it was made from DU rather than lead dramatically alter how well it did its job? It seems to me that DU rounds, being more massive than similiar-sized lead rounds, would require more propellant to acheive the same velocity so it could reap any rewards that would come from higher kinetic energy. It seems like common sense that it would be cheaper and more effective to use more less expensive lead bullets to do the same job.
Please let me know if DU rounds are just a sales gimmick on the part of arms manufacturers or if they really do provide a better $$$ to kill ratio.
Re:Why use Depleted Uranium in the first place? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Why use Depleted Uranium in the first place? (Score:1)
Explination, as i undestand it. (Score:1)
Re:Why use Depleted Uranium in the first place? (Score:2)
Re:Why use Depleted Uranium in the first place? (Score:2)
In general I agree with the Nerf/lead weight concept, but the Nerf ball has a much slower terminal velocity then the lead weight at 1 atmosphere. But to make it more clear, in a vacuum the principal would be the same.
~Sean
Re:Why use Depleted Uranium in the first place? (Score:1)
A second item is that modern rounds have to deal with air resistance effects. Given a lead and DU round of the same weight, the lead round because of its lighter density is going to be slowed more by air resistance because it will have a greater area. I suppose a long cylindrical bullet might work, but you need to prevent tumbling.
Re:Why use Depleted Uranium in the first place? (Score:1)
Yep, it gives a very high ballistic coefficient - a measure of how air friction affects it in comparison to a particular standard.
Long cylindrical bullets do indeed work - you just need to spin them faster.
Elgon
Re:Why use Depleted Uranium in the first place? (Score:1)
In the end, the bullet starting at velocity zero will gain as much kinetic energy as you give it, so heavier bullets will be slower and have the same kinetic energy than a regular one.
Let's say you give the bullet energy E, and it becomes pure kientic energy (no loss). than for a bullet b with mass Mb=k.Ma (for bullet a), you should obtain since 1/2 Ma.Va^2=1/2 Mb.Vb^2 Vb=Va/sqrt(k) so that it is slower for a heavier bullet
However, something conserved during an impact is the momentum, and Pb=MbVb=kMa.Va/sqrt(k)=Pa.sqrt(k) which is the one increased factor.
I really don't know anything about weapons, but i (therefore) think it must have to do with momentum rather than with kinetic energy. Also, its greater density makes it less likely to deform under impact, so I suppose that 'more energy is transfered to the target' as there is less loss due to deformation (of the bullet, of course, target deformation must probably be wellcome in some way
Re:Why use Depleted Uranium in the first place? (Score:2)
Re:Why use Depleted Uranium in the first place? (Score:5, Informative)
Here is some info on it:
"To understand why DU makes a good anti-tank weapon you have to enter the Alice In Wonderland world of high-energy collisions. When metal meets metal at five times the speed of sound, hardened steel shatters like glass. Metal flows like putty, or simply vaporises. A faster shell does not necessarily go through more armour, but, like a pebble thrown into a pond, it makes a bigger splash.
Armour penetration is increased by concentrating the force of a shell into as small an area as possible, so the projectiles tend to look like giant darts. The denser the projectile, the harder the impact for a given size. DU is almost twice as dense as lead, making it highly suitable. The other metal used for anti-tank rounds is tungsten, which is also very hard and dense. When a tungsten rod strikes armour, it deforms and mushrooms, making it progressively blunter. Uranium is "pyrophoric": at the point of impact it burns away into vapour, so the projectile stays sharp. When it breaks through, the burning DU turns the inside of a vehicle into an inferno of white-hot gas and sparks."
Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/Print/0%2C3858%2C401952
Re:Why use Depleted Uranium in the first place? (Score:1)
DU Shells are great for tank to tank fire because they have a much higher density than the armor it is piercing. The DU (for the most part) vaporizes (from heat) as it blows a big hole in other tanks. If you've never seen a tank being hit with one, it's like a bullet hits the tank and the tank blows the FUCK UP! It's AWSOME! about 50% chance of blowing their whole turret off! Sometimes they were found 100 yards away. On the inside of tank, it's like shrapnel city. 1st after impact, a blur of BB-sized burning metal bounces around (killing just about anyone inside. very few survivors). And if the BB's don't kill um, the explosion could (from fuel or ammo). Also, the vaporized metal is not good to be breathing (your suppose to have on a gas mask anyway, but it's sometimes ignored from what I've heard). The gas will kill you quick because you can't get oxygen through your lungs. In Desert Storm they were used in the massive ground battle. Because of DU shells our tanks were able to fire at a longer range than Iraq's tanks. Obviously thats important.
I'm not a military freak, but I can't find much of anything outside of The History Channel, TLC, and the various Discovery channels that isn't devoid of all intelligence. Hence, I know too much about junk yards, hitler (and his woman. ew. ugly), and planes that never got mass produced.
Health risks of sabot rounds (Score:2, Funny)
If you're in a tank that just got hit with a DU round, lung cancer is FAR from the top of your list of problems.
I can see it now...
SURGEON GENERAL'S WARNING: This sabot round contains depleted uranium. Occupants of a vehicle struck by this shell may suffer health problems.
Re:Health risks of sabot rounds (Score:1)
Err... not the battle fields. The crop fields, I ment.
In germany we use wolfram in favor of uranium in anti tank amunition. However I'm afraid it has similar bad effects on kidneys and liever.
But: at least it does not cause cancer and is not radioactive.
Regards,
angel'o'sphere
Re:Health risks of sabot rounds (Score:1)
How much? (Score:2)
Its all about power- (Score:4, Informative)
Apparently the enemy enjoyed the ostritch approach- hide the tanks behind a dune. A DU slug fired would penetrate the dune like a hot knife thru butter. If you punch in 1600meters/sec into a mass/energy equation, you can see a loosely packed sand dune is not going to offer sufficient resistance to even slow these things down.
Now when these things are fired they rest in a plastic, two piece mount. It comes apart (the mount) immediately after exiting the barrel. The mount is fatal to troops on either side (if the round leaves at 1mile/sec+, that mount is flying off at a 90 degree angle at pretty much the same speed - the nose is cone shaped so the air deflects it away from the round
This plastic piece could concievably abrade the DU slug (it IS hard plastic to withstand the acceleration).
This dust is then airborne, and could be breathed by practically anyone. Hence the problems and the health risks.
It wasn't as if anyone was LICKING the rounds
materialschlacht and WWII ammo (Score:5, Interesting)
When I was a kid here in Denmark, it was a fairly common event, that some 40 year old WWII "horned" mine was seen drifting into a harbour. I remember that a couple of kids that died, because that rusty old tincan they kicked, in fact was a german stick granade. (those "potatomasher" granades are higly unstable).
Even today it is very common, that fishermen gets a stack of corroded gas granades, usually mustard gas, in their nets, since incredible amounts of WWII gas ammmo, was dumped into the baltic sea after the war.
Some years ago, I visited a woodclearing where german small arms and AA ammo was tried destroyed. It wasn't a well done job; the entire clearing was littered with shells. The holes where the detonations had taken place, was still, after 55 years, without a trace of a single leave of vegetation. Probably caused by the phosphor from the tracer rounds.
The danish coastline was part of the Atlantik Wall, and therefore heavely mined (more than 1.4 million mines). Roughly 1 mineclearer died, for evey ten miles of coastlines, and there are still areas not cleared to this day.
The rest of Europe and the former USSR is littered with WWI and WWII ammo.
The "war most be fought with all means" proponents, really lives in the "here and now", and forget the decades, and centuries that comes afterward, and the huge amount of civilians who has to live on or near the former battlegrounds.
The real issue (Score:1)
Relevant Pubmed/Medline abstracts for this (Score:5, Informative)
Secondly, kidney toxicity, from any cause, is radically reduced when the owner of the kidney(s) injests antioxidants that operate in the kidneys. There are many, such as alpha lipoic acid. (ALA reduces damage from metals all over the body, BTW, not just in the kidneys.)
Thirdly, people might want to get their medical science news from the source: peer-reviewed medical journals. You can search for and read medical journal abstracts at Pubmed:
http://www4.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/PubMed/
All newspapers are sensationalist, contrary to the claims from some
Here are the latest Pubmed/Medline abstracts regarding DU and kidney health ("Renal functioning" in some of the below abstracts means "kidney functioning"):
Environ Res 2000 Feb;82(2):168-80
Health effects of depleted uranium on exposed Gulf War veterans.
McDiarmid MA, Keogh JP, Hooper FJ, McPhaul K, Squibb K, Kane R, DiPino R, Kabat M, Kaup B, Anderson L, Hoover D, Brown L, Hamilton M, Jacobson-Kram D, Burrows B, Walsh M.
Department of Veterans Affairs Medical Center, Baltimore, Maryland, USA. mmcdiarm@medicine.umaryland.edu
A small group of Gulf War veterans possess retained fragments of depleted uranium (DU) shrapnel, the long-term health consequences of which are undetermined. We evaluated the clinical health effects of DU exposure in Gulf War veterans compared with nonexposed Gulf War veterans. History and follow-up medical examination were performed on 29 exposed veterans and 38 nonexposed veterans. Outcome measures employed were urinary uranium determinations, clinical laboratory values, and psychiatric and neurocognitive assessment. DU-exposed Gulf War veterans with retained metal shrapnel fragments are excreting elevated levels of urinary uranium 7 years after first exposure (range 0.01-30.7 microg/g creatinine vs 0.01- 0.05 microg/g creatinine in the nonexposed). The persistence of the elevated urine uranium suggests on-going mobilization from a storage depot which results in a chronic systemic exposure. Adverse effects in the kidney, a presumed target organ, are not present at this time, though other effects are observed. Neurocognitive examinations demonstrated a statistical relationship between urine uranium levels and lowered performance on computerized tests assessing performance efficiency. Elevated urinary uranium was statistically related to a high prolactin level (>1.6 ng/ml; P=0.04). More than 7 years after first exposure, DU-exposed Gulf War veterans with retained metal fragments continue to excrete elevated concentrations of urinary uranium. Effects related to this are subtle perturbations in the reproductive and central nervous systems. Copyright 2000 Academic Press.
PMID: 10662531
Sci Total Environ 2001 Jul 2;274(1-3):115-8
Biological effects of embedded depleted uranium (DU): summary of armed forces radiobiology research institute research.
McClain DE, Benson KA, Dalton TK, Ejnik J, Emond CA, Hodge SJ, Kalinich JF, Landauer MA, Miller AC, Pellmar TC, Stewart MD, Villa V, Xu J.
Armed Forces Radiobiology Research Institute, Bethesda, MD 20889-5603, USA. mcclain@mx.afrri.usuhs.mil
The Persian Gulf War resulted in injuries of US Coalition personnel by fragments of depleted uranium (DU). Fragments not immediately threatening the health of the individuals were allowed to remain in place, based on long-standing treatment protocols designed for other kinds of metal shrapnel injuries. However, questions were soon raised as to whether this approach is appropriate for a metal with the unique radiological and toxicological properties of DU. The Armed Forces Radiobiology Research Institute (AFRRI) is investigating health effects of embedded fragments of DU to determine whether current surgical fragment removal policies remain appropriate for this metal. These studies employ rodents implanted with DU pellets as well as cultured human cells exposed to DU compounds. Results indicate uranium from implanted DU fragments distributed to tissues far-removed from implantation sites, including bone, kidney, muscle, and liver. Despite levels of uranium in the kidney that were nephrotoxic after acute exposure, no histological or functional kidney toxicity was observed. However, results suggest the need for further studies of long-term health impact, since DU was found to be mutagenic, and it transformed human osteoblast cells to a tumorigenic phenotype. It also altered neurophysiological parameters in rat hippocampus, crossed the placental barrier, and entered fetal tissue. This report summarizes AFRRI's depleted uranium research to date.
PMID: 11453287
J Occup Environ Med 2001 Dec;43(12):991-1000
Surveillance of depleted uranium exposed Gulf War veterans: health effects observed in an enlarged "friendly fire" cohort.
McDiarmid MA, Squibb K, Engelhardt S, Oliver M, Gucer P, Wilson PD, Kane R, Kabat M, Kaup B, Anderson L, Hoover D, Brown L, Jacobson-Kram D; Depleted Uranium Follow-Up Program.
Department of Medicine, University of Maryland School of Medicine, 405 W. Redwood Street, Baltimore, MD 21201, USA. mmcdiarm@medicine.umaryland.edu
To determine clinical health effects in a small group of US Gulf War veterans (n = 50) who were victims of depleted uranium (DU) "friendly fire," we performed periodic medical surveillance examinations. We obtained urine uranium determinations, clinical laboratory values, reproductive health measures, neurocognitive assessments, and genotoxicity measures. DU-exposed Gulf War veterans with retained metal shrapnel fragments were excreting elevated levels of urine uranium 8 years after their first exposure (range, 0.018 to 39.1 micrograms/g creatinine for DU-exposed Gulf War veterans with retained fragments vs 0.002 to 0.231 microgram/g creatinine in DU exposed but without fragments). The persistence of the elevated urine uranium suggests ongoing mobilization from the DU fragments and results in chronic systemic exposure. Clinical laboratory outcomes, including renal functioning, were essentially normal. Neurocognitive measures showing subtle differences between high and low uranium exposure groups, seen previously, have since diminished. Sister chromatid exchange frequency, a measure of mutation in peripheral lymphocytes, was related to urine uranium level (6.35 sister chromatid exchanges/cell in the high uranium exposure group vs 5.52 sister chromatid exchanges/cell in the low uranium exposure group; P = 0.03). Observed health effects were related to subtle but biologically plausible perturbations in central nervous system function and a general measure of mutagen exposure. The findings related to uranium's chemical rather than radiologic toxicity. Observations in this group of veterans prompt speculation about the health effects of DU in other exposure scenarios.
PMID: 11765683
Mil Med 2002 Feb;167(2 Suppl):117-9
Health effects of embedded depleted uranium.
McClain DE, Benson KA, Dalton TK, Ejnik J, Emond CA, Hodge SJ, Kalinich JF, Landauer MR, Livengood DR, Miller AC, Pellmar TC, Stewart MD, Villa V, Xu J.
Armed Forces Radiobiology Research Institute, 8901 Wisconsin Avenue, Bethesda, MD 20889-5603, USA.
The health effects of embedded fragments of depleted uranium (DU) are being investigated to determine whether current surgical fragment-removal policies are appropriate for this metal. The authors studied rodents implanted with DU pellets as well as cultured human cells exposed to DU compounds. Results indicate that uranium from implanted DU fragments distributes to tissues distant from implantation sites, including bone, kidney, muscle, and liver. Despite levels of uranium in kidney that would be nephrotoxic after acute exposure, no histological or functional kidney toxicity was observed with embedded DU, indicating that the kidney adapts when exposed chronically. Nonetheless, further studies of the long-term health impact are needed. DU is mutagenic and transforms human osteoblastic cells into a tumorigenic phenotype. It alters neurophysiological parameters in rat hippocampus, crosses the placental barrier, and enters fetal tissue. Preliminary data also indicate decreased rodent litter size when animals are bred 6 months or longer after DU implantation.
PMID: 11873491
Mil Med 2002 Feb;167(2 Suppl):123-4
Health effects and biological monitoring results of Gulf War veterans exposed to depleted uranium.
McDiarmid MA, Hooper FJ, Squibb K, McPhaul K, Engelhardt SM, Kane R, DiPino R, Kabat M.
Department of Veterans Affairs Medical Center, 10 North Greene Street, Baltimore, MD 21201, USA.
A small group of Gulf War veterans have retained fragments of depleted uranium (DU) shrapnel, the long-term health consequences of which are undetermined. We evaluated the clinical health effects of DU exposure in Gulf War veterans compared with nonexposed Gulf War veterans. History and follow-up medical examinations were performed on 29 exposed veterans and 38 nonexposed veterans. Outcome measures used were urinary uranium determinations, clinical laboratory values, and psychiatric and neurocognitive assessment. Gulf War veterans with retained DU metal shrapnel fragments were found to be still excreting elevated levels of urinary uranium 7 years after first exposure to DU (range for exposed individuals is 0.01-30.7 micrograms/g creatinine vs. 0.01-0.05 microgram/g creatinine in the nonexposed). The persistence of the elevated urine uranium suggests ongoing mobilization of uranium from a storage depot, resulting in chronic systemic exposure. Adverse effects in the kidney, a presumed target organ, were not seen at the time of the study; however, other subtle effects were observed in the reproductive and central nervous systems of the DU-exposed veterans.
PMID: 11873493
-Nukebuddy
Re:Relevant Pubmed/Medline abstracts for this (Score:2)
One note however: there is an ongoing debate in the scientific community about the quality of the peer-review process of journals, and not all people are happy with it. Peer reviewers are not alway as careful as they should be, authors have a tendency to simply submit an article for another journal, if the first journal they tried has rejected it, and especially medical publications are often sponsored by interested parties that have a lot of money to win or loose. Note that the qouted abstracts represent four papers on apparently only two different studies, and one of these studies is sponsored by the military.
Which means: reading an abstract often doesn't tell you the real story. You need to read the full article to understand what hidden assumptions have been made, how the selection of participants in the study helped to influence the outcome, and how significant the results really are. Unfortunately, access to the original publication may be rather expensive.
American Servicemen (Score:1)
How much does the U.S. military spend on supporting apartheid in Israel and the killing of Palestinians again?
I think America is in for a shock once the sympathy wears off, and people start to look at the world through other than American media channels.
Re:American Servicemen (Score:1)
Hope you're not too fond of Mecca. It might not be around much longer.
Threat Assessment (Score:1)
And if you are an American serviceman and are worried about this, what are you doing...licking the shells? And even if that is the case, the DoD could solve that problem by putting a nice thin layer of enamel on the shell.
The people that should worry about this are the people that work in the manufacturing of DU munitions. And even then, this is no where as dangerous as some of the chemicals that are/have been used in producing munitions.
This is just yet more radioactive hysterics.
funny you should mention that (Score:1)
More medical news...
We've all heard the stories concerning Nazi's and their use of medical experiments in the death camps. One of the major beneficiaries to this was the Bayer Company, a German owned, medicinal guru. Being a student of Nietzsche I understand that there is nothing stronger than the tenacity of the German people, but its been over 50 years and this story [cnn.com] provides proof that they are still as bitter as their medicine about getting a can of whup-arse opened up on them.
Hmmmm (Score:2)
The report also warned that DU particles in the ground near attack sites could contaminate the soil and pose a risk if some of the soil is swallowed by children.
Hey kids, see that burning hulk of a tank carcass over there in that crater! Let's go eat the soil around it.