Scientists Find Firefly 'Switch' 97
Johan Jonasson writes "Scientists have found the "switch" that allows a firefly to light up its body. The beetle flashes the "lantern" on its abdomen to attract a mate. Researchers have long understood how the light is generated but the control mechanism used by the insect has been a mystery. Now, a US team has been able to show that the simple molecule nitric oxide acts as the on-off "button"."
synchronized lightning bugs (Score:1)
...to attract a mate! (Score:1)
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news for nerds (Score:3)
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Dave
Well that proves evolution is false (Score:1)
Doh! NO != N2O (Score:1)
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At least THAT'S out of the way... (Score:3)
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This will ruin romantic nighttime drives... (Score:1)
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Heh
Pete
Re:O Glorious Day! (Score:1)
Pete
pharmaceutical solution to ca. energy crisis (Score:2)
So, slip some viagra into the punchbowl of the next female firefly gathering, and we have a new source of long-lasting, organic, romantic lighting fixtures
Re:synchronized lightning bugs (Score:3)
That's it? (Score:1)
...turns out to be nothing like a real firefly after all...
Earl! Why didn't you tell me?! I was not prepared for this!!!
Re:They've been there, done that. Well, with plant (Score:1)
mefus
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um, er... eh -- *click*
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mefus
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um, er... eh -- *click*
My Deepest Apologies (Score:2)
Live Documentary (Score:4)
Mr Jalin: Tell him I've already got one. (Mrs Jalin hits him hard with a newspaper) All right, all right. What's he want then?
Mrs Jalin: He says do we want a documentary on Fireflies.
Mr Jalin: Fireflies!
Mrs Jalin: Yes.
Mr Jalin: What's he mean, Fireflies?
Mrs Jalin: FIREFLIES!! LIGHTNING BUGS! LUCIFERIN OXIDIZING BEETLES! LAMPYRIDAE!
Mr Jalin: Oh fireflies, I thought you said bacon. (she hits him again) All right, all right. What's he charge then?
Mrs Jalin: It's free.
Mr Jalin: Ooh! Where does he want us to sit?
Mrs Jalin: (calling through the door) He says yes.
(Mr Zorba enters carrying plywood flat with portion cut out to represent TV. He stands behind flat and starts.)
Zorba: Good evening. Tonight fireflies. Fireflies are a type of beetle (order Coleoptera), consisting of about 1,900 species that inhabit tropical and temperate regions. The common glowworm is a member of this family...
Mrs Jalin: Not very interesting is it?
Zorba: What?
Mrs Jalin: I was talking to him.
Zorba: Oh. Anyway, Researchers have long understood how the light is generated but the control mechanism used by the insect has been a mystery. Now, a US team has been able to show that the simple molecule nitric oxide (NO) acts as the on-off "button". It is just one more example of the prominent role played by NO in biochemistry...
Mrs Jalin: Dreadful isn't it?
Zorba: What?
Mrs Jalin: I was talking to him.
Zorba: Oh. Well anyway... to understand the role NO plays in fireflies, Barry Trimmer, from Tufts University in Medford, Massachusetts, and colleagues studied the insects in tiny custom-designed chambers.
Mr Jalin: Switch him off.
(Mrs Jalin gets up and looks for the switch unsuccessfully)
Zorba: Whenever the fireflies were exposed to nitric oxide they glowed or flashed almost continuously, and they stopped once the nitric oxide was turned off... (looking out) What are you doing?
Mrs Jalin: Switching you off.
Zorba: Why, don't you like it?
Mrs Jalin: Oh it's dreadful.
Mr Jalin: Embarrassing.
Zorba: Is it?
Mrs Jalin: Yes, it's perfectly awful.
Mr Jalin: Disgraceful! I don't know how they've got the nerve to put it on.
Mrs Jalin: It's so boring.
Zorba: Well ... it's not much of a subject is it ... be fair.
Mrs Jalin: What do you think, George?
Mr Jalin: Give him another twenty seconds.
Zorba: Anyway the majority of the Fireflies are members of the Family Lampyridae...
Mrs Jalin: We knew that (she gets up and goes to the set)
Zorba: (quickly) However, what is more interesting, er ... is the Firefly's er ... sexual chemistry.
Mrs Jalin: (stopping dead) Oh!
Zorba: Yes, the Nitric oxide's part in assisting men achieve erection has been exploited by the modern impotence drugs like Viagra...
Mrs Jalin: (going back to sofa) Disgusting!
Mr Jalin: Ought not to be allowed.
Mrs Jalin: (again) Disgusting!
Mr Jalin: But more interesting.
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[Apologies to Monty Perl, or whoever that was...]
This Story Turns Me On (Score:1)
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What I want to know is how the scientists managed to figure this out without killing the bugs. Did they use insect anesthesia or something to keep them alive to see their abdomens move to cause the light? If so then what about when you step on em and smear em, what causes the chemical to light, since obviously at that point the bug is dead.
So if it's just the after affect of the bug being smashed which causes the light to shine, how does it manage to halt light, is their like a belly shade covering it...
Now on a funnier note, imagine if we as people had that, well males rather. Our faces would be swollen from getting slapped at the beach by our partners.
Nitric Oxide Transistors Anyone? (Score:3)
Cool. Now the real important question to us computer geeks is, can they switch on and off at 1000 Ghz?
My favourite quote from "Bug's life" (Score:1)
Re:Nitric Oxide? (Score:1)
You do, but in very small amounts. It dialates your blood vessels, kind of like that little blue pill...
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But can they apply this ... (Score:2)
Re:Nitric Oxide? (Score:1)
And we thought only bugs could do tricks with the stuff!
Re:Hmm... (Score:2)
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Don't you think it's important to the future of geekdom to know how to attrack a mate?
Of course, using Laughing Gas (Nitrous Oxide) to do it is probably illegal in some states
In the words of Calvin... (Score:1)
Re:Hmm... (Score:4)
One of the ways Viagra works is to make the control chemicals more effective.
Bob Dole with a glow in the dark schlong running after Brittney Spears. How is that for scary imagery.
As they say in france, "BoooYah!".
Childhood is better. (Score:1)
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News for nerds? Indeed. (Score:4)
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Funny but more likely significant: (Score:1)
NO means NO (Score:1)
The chicks love me.
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Indeed. I remember when we were kids we would swat the bugs in mid air because they would then stay lit as they went bouncing off and dropped to the ground. As I remember, they weren't dead and would resume normal flashing after a few minutes.
Also, we would catch a bunch and put them in a jar, then shake the jar and watch them all light up for a few moments. I wonder how this behavior is explained by the nitric oxide trigger?
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O Glorious Day! (Score:4)
Let's review:
Yes, this is a great day indeed!
... And Jellyfish hats.
sorry for the pun (Score:1)
/me hides in fear from the Pun Police.
Just guessing, but... (Score:1)
Why do they glow when you smash them? Probably because you rupture the sacks they carry the chemicals in and they mix. After the reaction is fully carried out and the chemicals are used up, the glow fades away.
"Now on a funnier note, imagine if we as people had that, well males rather. Our faces would be swollen from getting slapped at the beach by our partners."
That's just plain dumb. I'm not going to even bother commenting on that.
nitrous? (Score:1)
Funny, I usually see stuff start to glow when I inhale some nitrous...
Oh, NO not N20. That extra N makes a lot of difference.
shameless marketing here... (Score:1)
Ant this day has come!
For those of you living in a CA rolling black-out area, I got a solution to light up your dark night.
It's a natural light, made from a cluster of firefly, and with a switch. You can turn it on and off, at your will. How convenient.
Oxides of Nitrogen (Score:1)
Wonder what does the EPA has to say about this? Can't have all those fireflies flashing so much! Hmm. Maybe it is excessive firefly flashing that causes smog instead of oxides of nitrogen themselves
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Brings to meaning... (Score:4)
Sometimes I wonder if God is just the ultimate prankster, and we're in the joke of a lifetime (literally)...
They've been there, done that. Well, with plants. (Score:1)
That might not be all that far-fetched. I have a Biology textbook that contains a picture of a tobacco plant that is glowing, thanks to a firefly gene researchers incorporated into the plant's DNA.
Connect 'em to a live Webserver (Score:1)
Nitric Oxide? (Score:1)
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Hmm... (Score:1)
I'd be doing so much better in life...
Dateless Loser (Score:2)
God knows I could use an emulator [ultimate-iso.com] for this.
It is just one more example of the prominent role played by NO in biochemistry. In humans, the molecule is crucial to the dilation of blood vessels and the signalling that goes on between neurons in the brain. Its part in assisting men achieve erection has been exploited by the modern impotence drugs like Viagra.
Sweet, so I should expect a drug from Pfizer [pfizer.com] soon that'll make my ass glow?
Calling all geneticists! (Score:1)
Ooouuuchhh
Dancin Santa
Re:Hmm... (Score:1)
<whisper>What's the deal with that guy? He's always lit...
Yeah, I know... He must be some kind of pervert.</whisper>
Dancin Santa
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The key to the lighting is oxygen. When oxygen is flowing to the lantern, the photocytes light up. The nitric oxide suppresses the firefly's mitochondria from energy production (oxygen usage) which in turn leads to an excess of oxygen which then gets funneled into the tail, lighting it up.
I'm sure this was in the article. If not, see the MSNBC one [msnbc.com] (that I submitted this morning) with video and pics.
Dancin Santa
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stuff that matters .... (Score:1)
but i read about this a couple days ago from bbc, which i found out about from the bbc slashbox
also from the slashbox: hubble detects star-less planets [bbc.co.uk]
GM hypo-allergenic cats [bbc.co.uk]
among others, all easily found in the bbc slashbox
this just seems ... worthless, because its already on /., just in a slashbox
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"A university is what a college becomes when the faculty loses interest in students."
I'll sure be glad when... (Score:2)
Those scientisits can make a switch for COMMON SENSE , which the majority of the posters here seem to be sorely lacking.
Uh... anyhow...
Unfortunately, the only "fireflys" I've ever seen, are the fake ones at Disneyland.
But here in the redwoods of California, we have this real cool crawly thing, that looks like an armoured caterpillar about two inches long, and it has blue glowing dots, two on each piece of "armour", for about eight to twelve per bug.
One can only see them at the new moon, when it's pitch black under the redwood canopy, and one's eyes are dark adapted.
But they are the coolest little things crawling around in the redwood duff around here at night, besides scorpions. I've never been able to identify them, any ideas?
I was able to find this cool photo [elfornio.com] of a hillside covered with glowing caterpillers.
We also have this waaay cool beautiful yellow/orange mushroom called the Jack-O-Lantern Omphalotus olivascens. It glows green/blue in the dark also, enough so, that one could read by the light it gives off!
No matter what all the jaded losers think, nature is cool!
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R.I.P. Joey Ramone
The switch that I'd like to see flipped... (Score:1)
Scientists have found the "switch" that allows a firefly to light up its body. The beetle flashes the "lantern" on its abdomen to attract a mate.
Great, now if they wonder if they could turn their attention to the "switch" that would allow us to turn the light off in Bill Gates's body. That "lantern", or whatever it is he has shoved up his abdomen, is obviously fuelling his anti-social, monopolistic behaviour. And that's something that most people don't find very attractive.
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Re:Nitric Oxide? (Score:1)
Much better lie than what I was using before...
You and me baby ain't nothing but mammals... (Score:4)
Re:Ain't just for fireflies!... (Score:1)
So logically, it follows that eating fireflies will give you an erection. Especially if you are a guy.
Any volunteers for gathering hard data?
the Science story (Score:1)
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/summary/292/ 5526/2413a [sciencemag.org].
Huzzah for another great mystery of life revealed...
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Medical problems explained! (Score:2)
Old Man Rant (Score:1)
Back in my day, we sat there on our porches and appreciated fireflies for what they were: magic.
Now all this new-fangled "science" comes along and messes up the way it should be. Bah!
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Re:News for nerds? Indeed. (Score:1)
Then where do they keep their shit?
Finally (Score:2)
1.Yes, I can now complete my life work: "The meaning of life"
2. It was my lacking piece in my 10 jillion piece puzzle.
3. I've devoted my life to figure this one out. Now I'm going to hang myself.
Flashing? (Score:1)
I don't know about anyone else here, but I wouldn't want some stranger *flashing* me.
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My mobile lights up the keys in the evening.
I WANT MY FINGERS TO GLOW (but only when I say so) and the currently-available techniques for soing so mostly involve running wires under my fingernails, which hurts.
Please can someone whip up a batch of retrovirus to stick some switchable glowing into my fingers? Pretty please? I promise to wave my fingers around humourously in dark rooms full of stoners if you do?
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Re:Question answered? NOt! (Score:1)
Arginine --[NADPH->NADP+]--> N-omega-hydroxyarginine------> citruline + NO The enzyme is NOS... or nitric oxide sinthetase (makes sense doesn't it?). At least this is how it's produced in humans, and I assume it's fairly similar in fireflies... Being a neurotransmitter... produced in the nerves... them little bugs must have nerve endings for just this purpose, and the "switch" is actually inside their 'brains' (if you can call it a brain). Of course whether or not this is a volountary action, the turning on and off of the blink, remains to be seen as someone no doubt will soon claim to be an authority on firefly psychology... Does THIS answer your question?
Re:Funny but more likely significant: (Score:1)
I think that we will never "unlock the secrets of the human brain", even though we do (I guarantee) know almost all of the neurotransmitters and biochemical processes involved right now, this knowledge has come from animal research.
The reason we will not progress much further than we are today is simple: we need to see a human brain in action, and be able to poke and prod it... experiment with it, cut little pieces out and mash them into a pulp, etc. The small problem is that no one (for some strange reason) wants to volounteer their perfectly healthy brain for a bit of poking and prodding. So we're basically stuck with reverse-engineering the human mind in a strictly theoretical sense, but no one is quite sure exactly how it works, and there's no possibility of testing. The anatomy.. and the actual wiring, fibers from this nucleus go here... and here.. etc, is well known and a (dreaded) topic of study for medical students everywhere.
As a side note, the vast majority of the knowledge we DO have today comes from soldiers with varying degrees of brain injuries from combat wounds. "Oh... neat... the bullet went through here... and this one can't talk... this guy has a shell fragment THERE, and he can't sleep..." etc.
But getting back to the topic... medicine has known about the existence of NO, and its signalling properties for many, many years... almost since the invention of nitroglycerine pills for heart problems...the firefly bit doesn't affect THIS branch of science all that much.