New Advance In Quantum Dot Technology 80
sacremon writes: "An article in EETimes describes research at the University of Nebraska on the development of an improved method for the generation of quantum dots. The researchers invoke the infamous 'five years away from having a small-scale quantum computer in the lab,' but the technique looks promising, particularly for generating a large array of quantum dots."
Re:karma harvest (Yep... part #1) (Score:1)
Personally, I'd like to be able to do something like annotation, or the like, to mark up someone's comments, so there isn't the continually need to re-parse things.
I'd also like to be able to note in my link somewhat automatically that I agree or disagree with the author (a color code)?
Those are some of my thoughts, all put into once nice package.... if you prefer it that way.
Re:ooh! imagine (Score:2)
Doesn't make a difference (Score:2)
Re:Collapse of Civilization? (Score:4)
They SHOULD do that! (Score:1)
NU should do better next year with a nice crop of fast I-Backs. No more of this big, slow, powerful, can't-get-to-the-outside crap.
Jesus, they lost to Kanas State. Yes, Kansas State. How embarassing. KSU, the worst team of all time. But the KSU fans are so stupid, they tore down the goalposts like they've never won a game before.
I work at UN-L (Score:1)
Re:ooh! imagine (Score:1)
Re:Total Bullshit! - Count #2 (No interconnects) (Score:2)
Cool! If they can put a quantom dot on the spot (no pun intended)... then I do indeed congratulate them. It would be a good way to start building things like gates, and my favorite...RAM. If they can get them to be low noise, and stable, imagine having RAM cells without capacitors... the size could go way down. If they can make them non-volitle (sp?) (as a quantum dot should be able to be)... then that's even better! (I hope I'm not hyping things too much)
Like I said later... (#3)... focus on the positive. (I hope they weren't the victims of a bad reporter looking for hype).
--Mike--
believe the hype... (Score:2)
Mike
Re:Collapse of Civilization? (Score:1)
Question? (Score:1)
Re:Where's the _real_ information? (Score:1)
Is looks to me like this guy Supriyo Bandyopadhyay really is doing some good work.
overwrought with curiosity (Score:1)
I'm a computer science guy, and I'm interested in quantum computers. I'd really like it, though, if people stopped talking about dots and collapsing waves and gives me an example of the O(n) time for an algorithm on an electric computer vs a quantum computer. The lower bound for a sort on an electric computer is O(n log n). What's it on a quantum computer? O(1)? O(log n)? O(n)? Or am I looking at things in the wrong way?
This is real stuff!! (Score:1)
Sun commercials (Score:1)
Total Bullshit! - Count #2 (No interconnects) (Score:3)
So what we really have here is a process that just "spontaneously" happens to make a pattern that looks good for storing bits. This is not a process for putting a quantum dot at location X. Stand alone quantum dots certainly have their uses, such as laser diodes, but if there are no interconnects, it's not going to be a computing device.
In order for this to be useful, you have to be able to put a quantum dot where you want it, and be able to get data into and out of it. You also have to be able to do this and to get at least 1% yield for the entire die, in production quantities. This is not the ballpark this research is headed for.
Slashdot Poll Idea (Score:4)
what do you believe you will actually use in the next five years:
Okay, that last one was a little too farfetched... but I do declare Slashdot, you have the vapors!
This will make an awsome mp3 player (Score:1)
Mmm, I can just see the HK pirates planning.
In a butterfly configuration, (Score:1)
tcd004 Tired of Election Coverage? How about some Uncoverage? [lostbrain.com]
Re:Karma whore (Self parody? other issues) (Score:1)
I figured I'd try to get at least one of my points into play before the party moved on.
I really like Slashdot, but I think it can be even better... not quite sure how... but I know it can.
--Mike--
Re:Collapse of Civilization? (Score:2)
So if I encrypt my session key and send it along a quantum channel (encrypted with RSA) it's true that someone can intercept the message and easily decrypt the session key with a quantum computer. But the recipient will know that something's up, and I will never send the actual data.
That's a whole different problem.
Re:Collapse of Civilization? (Score:2)
while(!done){
}
}
Considering a quantum machine can do a huge number of these checks at one time, breaking down a large number into its two prime constituents is trivial.
Re:Collapse of Civilization? (Score:1)
It may make a mess of public key encryption though. You`d need to secretly communicate to your correspondants the page/offset/password you are using for the publicly posted message you are sending. If you could do that then you may as well send the message secretly anyway!
Re:How it all works... (Score:1)
Re:Quantum Comps replacing binary computers (Score:1)
Probably more likely is that it's starting to be re-discovered by the public (assuming that the NSA has QCs), just like RSA. If so, we probably won't be hearing anything about it from the NSA for a while.
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Re:overwrought with curiosity (Score:1)
Well, I assumed we were looking at the word "instruction" in a new light. Algorithms are lists of instructions. Under a quantum computer, we might have new instructions, such as "pick highest from list" which would be O(n) on an unsorted list in a non-quantum computer, but might be O(1) (doable in one step) on a quantum computer. That's what I'm getting at, I guess.
Quantum Dashes (Score:2)
Quantum morse code...ahhh... It could revolutionize the railroad industry!
Quantum Comps replacing binary computers (Score:3)
Another bit - I was reading the NSA website today, and noticing that they state something about "strategically limiting certain key technologies" in the interests of nat'l security. I have also noticed a lot of recent quantum related breakthroughs (quantum decoherence-free states, quantum cryptography, and easy methods of making entangled states). Not to be paranoid, but could this be a NSA release of technology? Who knows?
Matt
How it all works... (Score:4)
Re:Collapse of Civilization? (Score:3)
while (!confessed) {
beat prime number over the head
tell prime number its partner already confessed
offer prime number a shorter sentence if it
confesses
}
Quantum technology : The next step (Score:1)
Imagine the possibilities! (Score:3)
1. Distributed.net: Crack the encryption before you can actually hit the key
2. 3D: Real time rendering in the palm of your hand.
The power of this technology is friggen sick. I hope we put it to a good use, like porn hosting... You can never get enough porn. No such thing as too much porn. Usually.
Re:Collapse of Civilization? (Score:1)
well (Score:1)
quantum dots? (Score:1)
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Quantum dot-com? (Score:2)
Re:Slashdot Poll Idea (Score:1)
Interesting but judgements withheld (Score:2)
Total BullShit! - Count #1 (Packing data) (Score:1)
Bullshit! Every time you add a bit of information to a quantum state, you double the number of possible states available, at the cost of doubling the time it takes to determine the state. I don't know about you, but I don't want to wait around for the lifetime of 2^100+ universes just to save a few bits of memory. If anyone gives me grief, I'll be happy to do the math, and show just how absurd the hype is.
Sun... or "Dot-com you too" (Score:1)
That's what we really needed - after what Sun did, a large array of quantum dot-com s
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"fp" creativity (Score:1)
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quite honestly, it's getting boring. In the time it takes you to constantly reload the slashdot page waiting for a new story to be posted, you could be looking around the internet for something more creative to post. I'm bored, so when browsing at -1 I'm looking for the funny, creative troll. Is anyone else bothered by this, or is it just me?
Where's the _real_ information? (Score:1)
Just the type you see in newspapers and magazines all the time: Presenting some major "500%" advance in some area or the other and the corresponding scientists being "20 years ahead of their time". Now I don't say this is all made up, but being a scientist myself I am not ready to believe anything without further proof.
So I am asking: Where can you find more information on the work described in this newspaper article? Have the scientists published their results in one of the well-known journals like PhysRev, APL, etc.?
The second weak point about this article is that the author is mixing different applications of quantum dots without distinguishing them in any way. At least three properties of quantum dots can be made use of - and they are very different:
1) Optical --> Lasers and Detectors
2) Electrical --> Single-electron devices
3) Quantum --> Quantum computers
And each of these properties needs special tweaking for the desired application. It's not like you can produce the perfect quantum dot sample that can be used any application.
So I am asking: What properties are the named scientist actually working on?
My final summary: Unfortunately this article is not presenting anything of value as different aspects are freely intermixed and no clear information is given. Very sad - quantum dots/cryptography is actually an interesting subject.
knutbert
Collapse of Civilization? (Score:1)
It's been a long day (Score:2)
Re:Collapse of Civilization? (Score:1)
Re:Sun commercials (Score:1)
> commercial about the great 'dot'.
Nope - nothing "great" but "quantum"
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Re:Total BullShit - Count #3 (Wrong Focus) (Score:1)
This guy's got the right idea. Why put all your good ideas in one post, when you can distribute them among *three* posts so as to maximize karma harvest? Brilliant!
[Want to read more about why I think this is a good idea? See my next post]
Re:DANGER: goatse.cx link!!! (Score:1)
It's not funny, fools no moderators, and is trivially tested.
I just don't get it. Shouldn't there at least be some small bit of cleverness involved?
Pete
Re:The date (Score:1)
Oh yeah, nano technology. Very, very cool. It sucks that it's going to take 20 years to get commercial versions of the things that are discovered today.
Re:They SHOULD do that! (Score:1)
Re:Total Bullshit! - Count #2 (No interconnects) (Score:1)
Not Bullshit this is real (Score:1)
A little physical-chemical background (Score:2)
For anyone who's interested in the physics of quantum dot self-assembly, I've posted some papers and presentations on my website [umich.edu]. My recent research proposal [umich.edu] deals with a physical simulation of quantum dot growth. I try to write without jargon, so they should be understandable to anyone with a science or engineering background.
Rick Wagner
Department of Chemical Engineering
University of Michigan
New Method???? (Score:1)
The patent covers an inexpensive construction method for vast arrays of quantum dots, involving an easy-to-perform electrochemical process on an aluminum substrate. Quantum dots are described as "spontaneously" forming atop the aluminum substrate in a regular array suitable for processing information.
Yes, the electrochemical process is easy. Industry has been doing it for many years -- it's called anodization. Make the aluminum substrate an anode, pass current through it and some sulphuric acid, and you have your quantum dots. Nothing spontaneous there. And they are not formed atop the substrate, but within. Also, the quantum dots are periodically spaced.
This is excellent technology. The application I was working on was ultra-high resolution display technology.
Too bad they are going to tie all of this up with a patent. Maybe some publications can prove prior art!
Re:Quantum Comps replacing binary computers (Score:1)
Someone explain this to me! I'm reading this article and it goes into detecting bombs that are supersensitive. It goes like this:
Someone tells you there's a bomb in the room that goes off if a photon hits it. You can't detect it using normal means because you'll set it off.
Enter Quantum Mechanics! You have a room with two mirrors that are perfect. A photon will just bounce back and forth forever. Stick a near-perfect mirror in the middle of the room. Now a photon has a %.000001 chance of going through to the other side every time it hits the mirror. I'm fine with the quantum theory up until here.
Now they say that because of the uncertainity principle, you won't know if a photon has gone through to the other side until you actualy measure the photon and see if its gone over! The article states that if you have still have a photon on the left side, then there must be a bomb in the right side. WTF?!?!
Just because you don't measure the photon doesn't mean it's not doing anything!! My question is, why is it not possible that the photon went over to the other side and set off the bomb while you were waiting?????? Just because I didn't measure the photon, doesn't mean it didn't bounce over!!!
Are they saying that the photon doesn't do anything UNTIL I measure it? Then it determines which path it's going to take??? If they want me to accept it on faith, I can do that. But I just cannot see that happenening!!! So in effect, I'm going back in time measuring this photon!!
They're actually making computers based on this shit?!?!?!!
Trains stop at a train station. Buses stop at a bus station.
Scientists report... (Score:2)
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Theory. (Score:3)
I've been reading with interest for some time now the developments in Quantum computing, and it seems that researchers are now faced more with engineering problems rather than theoretical ones. No one is really questioning the computing abilities of quantum devices in theory, we're just waiting to see how they could be built.
My problem is then with the field of computer science in general and why there isn't much computational theory being done with quantum devices in mind. Coming from a comp. sci. theoretical backgground most of the heads in the field are either ignoring quantum computing or scoffing at it, while keeping their heads stuck in the P=NP sand and hoping it will all go away.
Does anyone out there have any info, preferrably links, to theoretical work going on with regard to quantum devices?
So... (Score:1)
Will start-ups taking advantage of this new technology be known henceforth as `quantum dot coms'?
<ducks>
More powerful than you can possibly imagine... (Score:1)
The actual possibilities of a decent quantum computer are so vast, that people either have no way to comprehend them yet, or comprehend enough to be frightened by the power.
Imagine programming a quantum computer to search through every possible combination of a large array of atoms, so that you would have a transwarp engine. Basically, you can set up whatever paramaters you want, and the quantum computer will find for you what you want, or tell you that it doesn't exist.
The examples I used are a bit off, as how do you define for a computer what good porn is? But if you somehow connected an arousal-sensor to the human brain, it could be trivial... Quantum computers will basically answer any question you ask, as long as you ask it properly, and the computer has enough qbits. Near infinite amounts of brute-force computing power is nothing to sneeze at.
Ask and ye shall recieve... scary eh?
This calls for another slash site. (Score:2)
Quantumdot.org [networksolutions.com]: News for nodes. Size matters.
quantum computing? (Score:1)
Re:No quantum computers from this design (Score:1)
dabacon
Re:Slashdot Poll Idea (Score:1)
-Chris
...More Powerful than Otto Preminger...
Re:Total BullShit! - Count #1 (Packing data) (Score:2)
Re:WOW! (Score:1)
WOW! (Score:4)
I guess I can feel proud now.
The good old days (Score:2)
I'm much fonder of Steve Howe's Quantum Guitar... its at least useful, in an asthetic way.
Re:Total BullShit! - Count #1 (Packing data) (Score:1)
No quantum computers from this design (Score:3)
There are promising designs of quantum computers, but they are not based on a semiconductor design. My personal opinion is that quantum computers will be first be realized in ultra-cold systems such as linear ion-chains. Any design that does not include the concept of a data bus is IMHO worthless.
To conclude, self-assembled quantum dots as described in the article do have their place: in optical devices such as semiconductor lasers, infrared sensors and highly specialized ultra-accurate gauge devices.
Just my 2 nm ...
Re:Total BullShit! - Count #1 (Packing data) (Score:2)
In most cases you can't determine the quantum state - you measure it. And the measurement time does not double whenever you add another qubit. I'm sure you could do the math, not so sure if it would be the right problem
professors (Score:1)
Re:Total Bullshit! - Count #2 (No interconnects) (Score:1)
Sorry, but you are. I'm actually a grad student working on the theory of these things at UC Berkeley. Coherent quantum states(so that you can do useful things with them) are very fragile and make "volatile" RAM look like a stone tablet. And, even with quantum dot arrays, it's not exactly clear how we should use them to build a QC architecture (see papers by Vincenzo, etc., including a recent one in Nature). And even if you agree to use one of these architectures, how do you manipulate and measure the states? EPR machines are big, and so are lasers for doing optical faraday rotation measurements...saying that it's not quite at the point where you could toss it into a PCI slot is putting it mildly.
That being said, it's exciting, and quantum dots are probably the best bet we have for making a scalable QC (sorry NMR guys). And in five years, who knows? If we had a quantum computing Manhattan Project, it could happen....
--js
QC and NP-Completeness ? (Score:1)
I can see how N qbits can "represent" 2^N possibilities. What I can't see is how one reads off the correct result
From my limited "getting it" QC is good for geometrically increasing N problems n^3, n^4, but it doesn't solve NP-completeness.
I also know there is something I don't understand in Quantum Entanglement, but I don't think this is a help.
perhaps someone can confirm or disabuse my understanding
Winton
weapons (Score:1)
Re:Imagine the possibilities! (Score:1)
I want the Playstation 9!!!
Re:Slashdot Poll Idea (Score:1)
Programmer1: Hey, how come I can't get this pseudo-random number generator to generate the same numbers it did before?
Programmer2: Oh that's 'cause you're usin' a `Quantum Computer'. See it uses the principle of quantum indeterminancy to generate, not *pseudo* random numbers, but actual random numbers.
Programmer1: So I can't make it recreate the same sequence of numbers it did last time?
Programmer2: No. Also, the computer is capable of generating non-deterministic behavor.
Programmer1: What kind of behavior?
Programmer2: Well, just last week, it grew a mouth and ate a programmer who hit it's keyboard too hard.
Programmer1: I think there's a Dell over there with my name on it. That `bleeding edge' technology stuff is getting a little too weird for me...
STOP SAYING BANDYOPADHYAY !!!!!! (Score:1)
Re:Collapse of Civilization? (Score:3)
excellent...time to wake up the wallet (Score:1)
Re:Total BullShit! - Count #1 (Packing data) (Score:2)
Most of the piece is oversimplified hype (more correctly known as bullshit).