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Fun With Nanotechnology Advances 75

wieselwerkstatte sent us a link to a Nature article that talks about the possibilty for self-soldering molecular wires. In related news, demon-cw sent us a C't story about .2 buckyballs that they are using to create nanotubes. Use the fish for those who don't speak German.
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  • Who modded this up?

    Christ, people, this is totally off topic.

    So he's in the nanotech industry (or so he says). What does he want, a cookie!?!
  • Nanotech isn't just science fiction anymore! People are just beginning to notice. First application -- probably synthesizing experimental pharmaceuticals in small lots for testing.
  • So far nanotech is a fascinating batch of lab playthings; I'm holding my breath for the first really public use of a nanotechnology. Even if it's nothing terribly complex, like a new insulating material or a way to desalinate water. I'm not saying those are what should be done, just that it'll be interesting to see what the first buy-off-the-shelf application will be.
  • The site is /.ed already...yeesh...anyone got a mirror?
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  • What is it with buckyballs ? why does everything come from buckyballs ? Why couldn't a beowulf cluster of dodecahedrons do the job ? I just can't imagine any media scientist (read : dumb guy in an apron reading someone else's report) being taken seriously after using the term "buckyballs" on TV.
  • Do you do everything that your grandpa did? If not, then forget the nazis 'cause their granchildren too don't do things their grandpas did. Gotcha!
  • Look for this to become a serious industry as techniques for creating this stuff improve and new uses are found for things. If high-tech development has shown us anything throughout history it is that as soon as humans discover they can do something, they find a reason to. Richard Smalley, one of the guys who got the Nobel back in '96 for discovering the C-60 bucky-ball has founded a company for making nanotubes cheaply. (http://cnanotech.com) I'm both anxious and a little frightened to see what science starts coming up with once it starts getting cheap to work with this stuff!
  • Either I don't get your 'humor' or you are plain stupid, referring to German speakers as nazi's.

    Anyway, this techweb article [techweb.com] tells you how productive Germans are in the open source world. Now it may be true that open source programmers don't make up as much of the slashdot gang as they used to, but there probably still are quite a lot of German slashdot readers.
  • Well done, you can now cut and paste.

    For your next lesson in using windows, we will teach you how to exit programs

    Move the Mouse Pointer to the Box with a cross in it at the top right of the window. While holding the mouse steady, depress the left mouse button and then release it. This will cause the window you were using to disappear. Now pickup the mouse and wrap the cord tightly around your neck. Loop the cord over the top of your chair and then fall off of it. If you have a cordless mouse this will not work, so just swallow the mouse and CHOKE TO DEATH
  • by Anonymous Coward
    demon-cw sent us a C't story about .2 buckyballs that they are using to create nanotubes

    A molecule of C12?

  • A wire that could self solder seems to me would have a very low heat tolerance. My understanding is the smaller the circuit the less power and heat it would generate. How would this work? What would be the practical applications and what potential failures would it possibly create?
  • look at his user info [slashdot.org] and you'll see quite a few amusing posts - he invariably claims (in a very sincere manner) to be an expert in whatever field the post relates to- BlueTooth, database design, etc, with
    just enough techno-jargon to fool you for a moment- this troll is a bit lame though, apart from the bit where he claims to have traded mail with Linus...
  • Bucky Balls is used because it is alot easier to pronounance than Buckministerfullerine. Also check out this, http://www.nidlink.com/~jfromm/bucky/bucky.htm for more info on Bucky Balls
  • Does anybody know what the hell happened to PrivacyX?
  • Is "solder" that disconnects when certain voltage is applied all that useful??? I mean this would be cool if it actually stuck, but it seems like the article is treating it more like a slow switch than a building adhesive...

    E.
  • I want to ask something about Babelfish which was referenced in the story, rather than about the story itself. I hope that's not too offtopic.

    Why do the Slashdot editors invariably refer to it as "the fish"? Do you think it's cool or clever or something, or is there some history that I'm not aware of? I think it would be better to just call it "Babelfish"; alternatively, editors on the dot [slashdot.org] could start using coolbreviations for the soft [microsoft.com], the hoo [yahoo.com], the 5hin [kuro5hin], the hat [redhat.com], etc.

    what gives?

  • What's bloody new? Every new invention is first used in a military way after which it will benefit the general population. Or are you telling me you finished the Colossus before you even built one Phalanx? Huh?
  • I do believe Nature gets the "award" that "Dr. Evil" introduced to "us" with over-using "quotes".

    'nano-computer' 'by-hand' 'self assembly' 'control'

    On a serious note though, did anyone read that last paragraph? If not, I'll summarize - "Well guys, we spent millions in goverment funding, and came up with some pretty cool shizz. The only downside is, uh, it really doesn't have practical application! But hey, who cares, we've got the media giving us attention".

    So this is just yet another technology that has about the technological impact on computers that Aibo had on personal pets, and everyones up in arms talking about how now the new revolution in computers is upon us. Yeah, it's great to know, but we've got a LONG way to go before this will have practical application.
  • Hello??
    First i thought i just read another example of Monthy-Python-like-Humour. Then i read your comment again and thought: what a prick!

    I wonder how nice it must be to live in a world where everyone refuses to read/buy products/books which originate from a country which, in some time in their history did something wrong to somebody else.
    Like japanese people not buying products from the US because of WW2 or most of europe against the french because of napoleon.
    My 2 groschen (german equivalent to cent)

    Now go on and flame me for beeing a nazi or something, thank you!

  • Single pole, single throw switch?

    Sounds like a fuse to me, which is a slow one-way (ie on->off, permanently) switch.

    Does voltage cause heat anyway? Isn't that current? If so, it should all be fine, because the currents should be low anyway at that kind of scale.

    Panic over, everybody get back to work.

  • Does voltage cause heat anyway? Isn't that current? If so, it should all be fine, because the currents should be low anyway at that kind of scale.

    I believe that resistance causes heat that basically occurs because of the electrical equivelent of friction.
  • or most of europe against the french because of napoleon.

    The reason most of Europe is against the French is country-specific. The English hate them for their eternal warfare and the rest of us hate them because they hate us. The fact Chirac keeps whining about our drugs-policies might have something to with it as well...:-)
  • Well, since Voltage(V) = Current(I) * Resistance(R), then it really doesn't matter whether or not it's the current or voltage that causes the heat unless you have a zero resistance material. Now, since this is a self-soldering (supposedly) wire, then it seems to me that it must have some resistance, otherwise the entire length of wire would melt if enough heat is applied to one end of the wire.

    Frankly, I don't want anything like this in my computer, or anything I own. I have enough problems with wires that melt (okay insulation too) when overheated already without having wires that can melt on their own.

    Kierthos
  • Nanites and their ability to revolutionize the world has yet to be seen. Reprogramming them would probably be a pain and the speed with which they could do anything would also be limited as well by extreme cost.

    Also add to it the complete overzealous nature of the way the tech world thinks the world will come to the end via nanites will most likely prevent the average person from having any nanities at any price. This would prevent the near utopia level of living that some of these people think would happen if wide spread use of nanites would happen.
  • Klar, AFCErzgemein ist einer der schlechtesten Kommentatoren bei Slashpunkt (nach tyronefine), aber mir wird schlecht bei all diesen US-Amerikanern, die denken, daß die Welt in Washington beginnt und in DC endet, und die andere Länder nur wahrnehmen, wenn sie gerade von US-Truppen angegriffen werden.

    Wenn Dich darüber ärgerst, daß Du eine Sprache nicht beherrschst, dann lerne sie und hör auf zu jammern.
  • Smaller circuits generally generate less heat, but it really all depends on what the circuit is desgined for, how long it stays active, etc.

    As for practical applications:

    Umm, if you could reasonably control when the wire would melt, then you could use it to establish/re-establish electrical connections in limited-space areas without neccessarily having to crack open a case. Control the movement of the wire with micro-tools, and you're all set.

    It might also be used to speed up mass production of chip-sets. Maybe. This is pretty much all guesswork on my part.

    Potential failures:

    What happens if it melts or re-melts at the wrong time? It seems to me that right now, this is the last thing in the world that you would want to use on anything you'd like to keep around. What if the wire melts at the wrong time or in the wrong way and establishes the wrong sort of connection? What if it re-melts later and fries something important?

    Okay, now no corporation in their right mind is going to use this stuff in their current product lines. One, it's probably more expensive then using normal electrical solder (which I recall being pretty cheap). And two, with the potential failures that I listed (not to mention any other problems that could creep in), they'd be open to lawsuits real quick. And corporations hate lawsuits.

    Just my $0.02 on this.

    Kierthos
  • So I was thinking "Of course he's read about the fish...".. given that you must have used it before and seen The Link [h2g2.com]. Oh, wait... The HyperLink [h2g2.com] on altavista's page... oops webpage which explains all about the fish .. damn .. the babelfish and its origins. it's a fish. It translates. the type of fish? Babel I guess. It's a babelfish. Calling it 'the fish' is not a bad thing. get over it.

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  • Personaly i do like your drug-politics (i suppose youre from holland):-)
    But what i tried to point out was, that in my point of view its quiet dangerous to "hate" somebody because of prejudice. I mean our friend tyronefine tries to tell me that he's hating every german (or german-speeking) because of what them fucking nazis did in the 3rd Reich.
    At the same time he tries to "helping to found an organization to fight against racism in the high-tech arena". Hello? Have you seen a more perfect example of racism on slashdot in the last days then his post??
  • I think you misspeleld the word articulate to articualte in your USER INFO page :))
    Cheers,
  • Have you seen a more perfect example of racism on slashdot in the last days then his post??

    Yeah, a couple of those. They all disappeared quite quickly as either offtopic or flamebait. Although not at all perfect, the moderation system does take care of these jokers. The fact that my reply to you was a joke should be interpreted as me not taking the original poster seriously at all. Oh and yes, I am from Holland, I do speak German, and I spent the last week with a number of very nice French people.
  • /. actually had a story [slashdot.org] on Richard Smalley's new company and their technique a couple of weeks ago in the science section.

    While I find all of this nano-buzz interesting, I think people generally attribute too much to it at the current stage in the game. It has enormous potential and it is definately flourishing but I don't think we're close enough to start throwing a big party yet.

  • A wire that could self solder seems to me would have a very low heat tolerance.

    I don't believe that is the point. When they say that the wires are self soldering, they don't mean that the wires melt and then fuse together.

    What happens is the two gold "wires" are joined together by a long molecule whose ends preferentially bond to the gold. You can think of it like this, the "solder" is a string that has glue on both ends. You first coat material one with the strings and assume that only one end of the string will stick, the other end of the string now floats up in the air. You then bring the other material close by and the free ends of the string now stick to it. You have essentially bonded (or soldered) the two materials together with the strings. This is what is happening with thiols on gold.

    Jeremy

  • You don`t need to read it, if you don`t understand, or are too lazy to translate it. This was the most racist and nazi-like comment I read here. As living in Slovakia (Central Europe) I know something about nazis, communists and other forms of totallity. But it is not reason to not speak German, Russian... Or what about BMW, Mercedes Benz cars - are they also nazi products not worthy to even look ak them? That`s all for today, must go
  • by yabHuj ( 10782 ) on Thursday November 02, 2000 @06:44AM (#655242) Homepage
    Smaller is not possible

    Michaela Simon 02.11.2000

    A carbon tube with a diameter of 4*10^-10m (= 0.4nm)

    The Nobel Price 1996 for Chhemistry was awarded for the discovery of a soccer ball - a very small one though. The "Buckyball" only consists of 60 carbon atoms. Its synthesis and detection awarded Robert F. Curl, Harold W. Kroto und Richard E. Smalley the price.

    (Download)

    The atoms of this molecule are placed exactly like the sextangular leather patches of a soccer ball. With this C60 is another modification of carbon among graphite and diamond. Until now quite a number of carbon spheres of different sizes have been found. The smallest one of this Fullerenes called class of carbon molecules - the C20 - was just recently described in the magazine Nature (2000, 407, S.60-63.).

    (picture)

    A few years ago there was quite an euphoria about C60 and relatives, and its applications in various areas of science was lively discussed (e.g. superconduction and HIV proteasis inhibition). Even if today anyone can order C60 in chemistry wholesale shops ($500 per gramm) there never was a real technological breakthrough.

    The latter is hoped to come with carbon nanotubes - molecules formed like tubes that consist exclusively of carbon (like C60). These tubes were discovered 1991 by the Japanese researcher Sumio Iijima. Nanotube research started as offspring of Fullerene chemistry and is on its best way to surpass it.

    (picture)

    Carbon nanotubes consist of concentric graphite shells - between one and fifty of them which gives a diameter of 1-50nm. But nanotubes can be up to a millimetre in length - and it is this anisotropy that is of importance for applications. Fibers made of nanotubes are said to have an enormous tensile strength (100times stronger than steel with 1/16th of steel's weight). The interior of these tubes can be filled with various material (e.g. hydrogen) - even chemical reactions are possible within these miniature test-tubes.
    Because of teir special electronic properties these tubes could become an important part of future nano technology.

    (picture)

    In today's issue of Nature two research groups from Hongkong and Japan report independently about the(ir) world smallest nanotube (Nature, 2000, 408, S. 50 und S. 51). It only has a radius of 0.2 nm (nanometers, 2*10^-10m). According to theory scientists this radius is the ultimate as smaller tubes won't be stable any more.

    The extreme curvature of the carbon shells creates unusual physical properties: along the axis these tubes a metal-like conductivity is postulated. Further properties of this smallest of all nanotubes have to be researched, but be prepared for suprprise.
  • (play on the biggest map sizes)

    I meant Civ, not CivII. You know, the one where your opponents whooped your ass first and asked questiosn later if you accidentally clicked on "Emperor" and "7 Civilizations".
  • by Sharadin ( 241129 ) on Thursday November 02, 2000 @06:46AM (#655244)
    Nanotechnology is going to destroy the pathetic United States, as well as every other country in this world? Why, you ask? Because the technology has the potential to:

    1) Make humans immortal (or pretty close to it)
    2) Grant humans the use of 'unlimited resources'
    3) The ability to learn things much quicker

    Do you honestly believe that a military or politician(s) will be able to keep this technology to themselves? That is absolutely impossible, considering the people with the real brains aren't even in the military or the government, and if the government decided to keep the technology for itself, these 'people' would just create a non-commercial nanotechnology which they would release to everyone, in the name of rebellion against a government that never worked properly or efficiently in the first place.

    The United States may be eager for Nanotech, but the truth is they are also horrified of it. Why? Here is the truth that the morons in our governent don't want you to know: NANOTECHNOLOGY WILL BRING THE ABSOLUTE DEATH OF DEMOCRACY AND CAPITALISM. Wow, it looks like they have every right to be afraid. No more government - no more money system! WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO!?

    That answer is simple - we are going to become Gods, and there is NO ONE alive or dead who can stop this from happening.

    'Death to the pathetic United States, and death to Democracy and Capitalism!! Good riddance!'

  • Penguins are bad. Penguins eat fish. Without fish, people don't understand this story...
  • by Quantum_Well ( 232508 ) on Thursday November 02, 2000 @06:49AM (#655246)
    Is "solder" that disconnects when certain voltage is applied all that useful??? I mean this would be cool if it actually stuck, but it seems like the article is treating it more like a slow switch than a building adhesive...

    That is not what they mean. When they say that the wires are self soldering and that when they ramp the voltage the conductivity drops, they don't mean that the wires melt and then fuse together and remelt and break apart.

    What happens is the two gold "wires" are joined together by a long molecule whose ends preferentially bond to the gold. You can think of it like this, the "solder" is a string that has glue on both ends. You first coat material one with the strings and assume that only one end of the string will stick, the other end of the string now floats up in the air. You then bring the other material close by and the free ends of the string now stick to it. You have essentially bonded (or soldered) the two materials together with the strings. This is what is happening with thiols on gold.

    Now the thiols only like to conduct one way (like a diode). When they reverse the polarity, the thiols stop conducting. The wires are still soldered together, it's just that they no longer conduct current between them.

    Jeremy

  • What makes a 'molecule' of C12? A Carbon atom, a 2 carat diamond or a 100 mile long quasi-Buckminsterfullerene nano-tube?

    How many covalent bonds does it take to get to the chewy center of a Buckyball?

    C-C: 1
    C=C: 2
    CHOMP! Three!

    Three.

    The REAL jabber has the /. user id: 13196

  • The Bad thing about the nano-stuff is that being that small i presume is very fragile. What use does an 1mmsq factory if it breaks at the smallest shaking. Or am i wrong ?

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  • Das es kein English war?
  • Ach das.
    Deutsch ist es nur, weil ich das am besten kann und nicht englisch ist.
  • we finally have the technology to make really easy to hide pea shooters.

    The teachers arn't going to like this one bit.
  • Before saying anything else, I'd like to express my opinion that if this guy was serious, I think he's really sad, ad if he was not, then he has quite a bad humour.

    One point that might be worth discussing, though, is if there's some kind of Slashdot policy regarding posts to articles in foreign languages (foreign for most of you, anyway.) Speaking German myself, I don't mind the occasional post of some article in c't magazine [heise.de], one of the best computer magazines in the world. Does this aggravate people with no foreign language competence that much that this sort of post should be entirely forbidden, or should it be encouraged as being a valuable contribution to the inter-cultural communication aspect of the Internet?

  • It is quite improbable, I think, that he was able to write an intelligible answer in German while not being able to understand the text he was referring to, don't you think?

    In fact, I think language competency is a wonderful thing that should be embraced and encouraged because it is one of the prerequisites of inter-cultural communication that one is able to communicate with others on their ground instead of forcing them to cross over to one's own.

    BTW the .sig is Finnish, but I doubt the Fish would translate it properly...
  • Okay, maybe this is a stupid question, but what keeps the molecule from "bending back" on itself and re-attaching to the same gold wire?

    Also, is there any evidence that gold is the only substance that this molecule shows preference to? Sure, if it's preferential to chocolate malteds (as an oddball example) there's probably not a lot to worry about. But have they tested this against any or all of the other common materials found in the application set?

    I'm sort of playing Devil's Advocate here, but I'd also be really interested if these questions (and answers) have been considered....

    Kierthos
  • As I've expressed in a previous post [slashdot.org], I don't mind reading foreign-language stories on the Net as long as they contain something informative. Information should not be restricted to the actual form of presentation. (Which includes foreign languages.) Anyway, I'd like to know the Slashdot policy on this, if such a thing exists.

    How about allowing people to customize their accounts to not being shown non-English stories? If they miss interesting pieces of information, it is probably their own trade-off for the luxury of not being shown them.

  • Oh, I don't think we'll see a lot of progress right away with nano-tech, but I think it will be revolutionary in the next few decades and it's a good idea to start thinking about what it could mean. When Fermi was inventing the first electric generator, he didn't have any idea what it would do to the world, he just thought it was cool that he could make a current with a magnet and some wire. The difference between his times and ours is that anytime something like this comes along now, there are thousands working on it all over the world thanks to global communication so the revolution can be much quicker. Also, those less scrupulous have a lot more access to cutting edge technology information than ever before.
  • Oh, and thanks about the earlier article. I hadn't seen it.
  • The STM has a very fine metal tip. When voltage is applied to this tip and it is brought very close to the nanoparticles, a current flows from the particles into the tip. But by altering this voltage, the researchers were able to switch the current on and off, because their linker molecules were voltage-sensitive.

    Wait a minute. You're using an STM, and you're amazed that when you drop the voltage, the current stops? Hello! The current is due to electrons tunnelling through the gap between the tip and the material. If you reduce the voltage, you reduce the energy of the electrons in the tip, and thus the probability that they will tunnel through the gap

    Does anyone know if they tried applying a positive voltage of the same magnitude that caused the current to flow? If they haven't yet, I think that they would be *surprised* at the results. If they have, and there was no current, then I respectfully retract my rant.
  • As far as I remember from doing some explosives, C12 definitely did not have buckyball shape. In fact, a buckyball would probably not have the necessary shape to unfold rapidly, which, for example, makes PETN, C4 and TNT so violent. (TNT is quite harmless, actually)

    In case the post was an actual question, however, yes, it was carbon. :-)

  • You're wrong.

    The breaking strength of an object increases (roughly) as the square of the linear dimension. The mass increases with the cube. If you shake something (or drop it), the stress it experiences is proportional to the mass. Bigger things are generally more fragile than smaller things.

    You can drop a small ant from a height of a meter, and the ant will walk away. If you drop an elephant from a meter, the elphant will break bones and end up dead.

    Nanotech stuff is likely to be so tough that you couldn't even crush it without a diamond hammer, let alone break it by shaking it.

    Also, one of the fun things you can do with (dream) nanotech is to build big things to atomic precision. A one-meter cube of monocrystalline diamond is not a fragile object.

  • demon-cw sent us a C't story about .2 buckyballs that they are using to create nanotubes

    A molecule of C12?

    No, .2 buckyballs is a buckydish. Or maybe just 'bu'.
    ___
  • "Schiffrin and colleagues used a class of organic molecules called thiols that stick to gold. At the end of a chain-like molecule, a thiol group reacts with a gold atom to form a strong link. Molecules with thiols at both ends can link themselves between two gold surfaces. So the team attached gold nanoparticles to a flat gold surface, tethered by two-headed thiol molecules. Each gold particle, they say, is probably linked to the surface by dozens of these molecules."

    I can see it now... geek relationships of the future will forever be changed:
    *geekMan*: "Honey, will you marry me?"
    *geekChick*: "Oh, darling! A gold-accented iMac, with LinuxPPC, gold-thiol technology, and diamond trim! Of course I'll marry you!"
  • I can't believe this was moderated up as interesting. It's flamebait!!

    So here I go:
    Nanotechnology will not cause the death of capitalism or democracy. Immortality does not negate the need for government.

    A large group of people will always need to have a leader, and immortality will just make the groups of people who need to be led larger...

    Governments in a nanotech world will likely become more like sheepherders, suggesting where people should go to live and what areas (of the solar system/galaxy/universe) are suitable for the spread of the human race.

    Capitalism will thrive. Immortality will not negate greed, and eternity would be boring as hell without new discoveries/inventions.

    P.S. As everyone will live forever, it's no big deal to finance someone on their super 3d plasma virtual reality tv for 1000 years.
  • Okay, maybe this is a stupid question, but what keeps the molecule from "bending back" on itself and re-attaching to the same gold wire?

    There are many factors at play. One of which is the density of thiols on the surface. When you have enough thiols on the surface, they will arrange themselves in a 2-D lattice that is commensurate with the gold lattice (or something close to that). Once they are packed tight enough, they have to point up (actually they tend to lean, but that gets far to complicated and depends on the thiol length and lattice constant).

    Another factor is the length of the thiols. If the thiols are short, then they won't want to bend over. If they are very long, they might bend a little. Also the bonding configuration between the atom on the end of the thiol and the gold surface might not allow for the thiol to lean very far.

    Also, is there any evidence that gold is the only substance that this molecule shows preference to?

    This is a very active field in Chemistry/Physics/Material Science. There are numerous materials that you can form these self-assembled monolayers on (gold, silver, InP, GaAs, etc...) but gold is probably the most commonly studied surface.

    We played with alkanethiols on GaAs for a few months (several years ago) in our lab, but I haven't really been keeping up on the literature.

    For a lot more information, do a search for "self-assembled monolayers" on google (or your favorite search engine). This field of research is huge and very interesting.

    Jeremy

  • You used the word "Geek" and "iMac" in the same sentence.

    I think what you meant was "Oh, darling! A gold-accented dual 1.2 gHZ Thunderbird, with (Debian/NetBSD/let the holy war begin), gold-thiol technology, and diamond trim! Of course I'll marry you!"
  • Verstehe ich schon. Aber mein Hollandisch und Franzosich sind doch wirklich besser wie meinen Deutsch....
  • Another one! Please look at what you posted: the original Civ 2!! If it was an original, it probably wouldn't have needed a following number, now would it? Guess I'm getting old...
  • P.S. As everyone will live forever, it's no big deal to finance someone on their super 3d plasma virtual reality tv for 1000 years.

    Oh my god, immortality is bad. you can't even die to get rid of your debts.. And yes, I ripped that from Heinlein...
  • Once upon a time, not very long ago, you had to speak German to become anything in any technological or scientific field, because most literature, or at least the most recent literature, was in German. Only very recently has this begun to change. Especially in computer science and electrical engineering, most literature is now in English, but literature regarding chemical engineering, physics and biology is still mostly German.

    Instead of whining that you have to use Babelfish, whining that everybody should learn English - why don't YOU learn German? Personally, I speak Dutch, English and German, and a little bit of French - and I wish I hadn't dropped that in higschool...

    )O(
    Never underestimate the power of stupidity
  • Every time there is an interesting article that is in German (which is fairly frequently) /. mentions "the Fish".

    I'm curious. Does Babelfish ever get slashdotted when this happens?

  • Did anyone perhaps think that they meant .2 moles?
  • I don't understand the various reactions to this post.

    The fact is, we *are* fast-approaching a semblance of godhood. It's a scary thought, but we already have the technology to completely change the face of our world. The only reason we havn't yet is because there hasn't been motivation large enough to warrant the required resources.

    In a few hundred, maybe a few thousand years, in a fairyland of nanotechnology, it could be as simple as programming a nanotechnology-based robot to convert all grass into dust. Just let 'er rip, and off it goes.

    This is very frightening, but could also be very valuable.

    Who here is willing to spend ten years of constant work to go into space? I mean, if someone walked up to you and said, "If you sacrifice ten years of your life to hard effort, I will send you into space," would you take it?

    Probably not. We simply don't have the attention span, as a species. Little things like immortality might give us that attention span. After all, if you've lived several hundred years, what's ten? Heck, what's a hundred? If we're willing to sacrifice that kind of time, our potential is nearly unlimited. We could reach the stars.

    Yeah, I know, I sound half-baked. Ah well :)

    Dave
    'Round the firewall,
    Out the modem,
    Through the router,
    Down the wire,
  • Okay! Okay! have your technology, but dont bring my grandma into it. okay!
  • government regulation on Concealed Nanotubes and Buckyballs, right away! Sure, one Buckyball may not hurt... but what if someone got a Beowulf cluster of them together?

    Sorry, folks, couldn't resist.

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  • Does this aggravate people with no foreign language competence that much that this sort of post should be entirely forbidden, or should it be encouraged as being a valuable contribution to the inter-cultural communication aspect of the Internet?

    I wouldn't mind anything in German, but also would agree to see the occasional article in any other language. Maybe I get motivated to learn it, and almost any reason to learn a language is a good one.
    (I'm currently learning svenska because my favorite movie is from Sverige and I want to understand it undubbed.)

    Anyway, most Articles from Heise get karmawhored very quickly. This one is no exception.
  • But then, I am a round and decadent cybergoddess!
  • Oh my god, immortality is bad. you can't even die to get rid of your debts

    So much for lifetime retirement by the time I'm 60....

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  • No one ever said the chick was a geek. ;-)

    ~Di
  • Talk to the fish? An attempt has been made to access a restricted URL. / Reason : profanity 1 nudity 1 fullnudity 1 sex 1 gross 1 racist 1 satanic 1 drug 1 militant 1 gambling 1 alcohol 1 Bad fish. Dirty fish.
  • Is it just me, or do any of you NOT ever tire of saying Buckyballs? There's something inherently delightful about it! Buckyball, Buckminsterfullerine! It makes me giddy! *Laughs like a little school girl.* Buckity buck buck buckyball.
  • Your reasoning is flawed. The real real behind the "Elephant and the Ant" is basic physics. F=ma. The force that elephant hits the ground is monumental due to the mass. If you exerted 10 Newtons force on an ant, you'd crush it, do the same for an elephant, and it might blink. This bigger things are more fragile isn't a "scientific property," it's a lame explaination of basic physics, but justified by the wrong reasoning.

    And as far as the breaking strength business goes, pressure is a force over an area. No matter the size of the metal, you're going to have similar properties between large and small wires. Therefore, if you exert enough force on a small enough area, you could break it, but a jostle won't kill you.
  • It's not unprecidented for people to be afraid of technology. Nanophobia, Internetophobia, Technophobia, Slashdotophobia, the list goes on. What we need is nanopsyhcologists. ;)
  • For that we need nanotech? What wrong with nuclear weapons? Maybe not as fancy, but every bit as genocidal. Jeesh, don't you hate technology for its own sake?

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