
Bioluminescent Squirt Pistols 191
Anonymous Coward writes "In an effort to raise money for scientific pursuits, Biotoy is now selling Bioluminescent (glowing) squirt pistols and other neat (educational?) toys." I want one. Now. The H20 Glow on the Biotoy page looks pretty slick, too. I love it when e-commerce and scientific funding collide.
Oh awesome.. (Score:1)
What a strange thought =)
Just imagine.. (Score:1)
Re:YES (Score:1)
Oh well, rats are shit anyway and don't feel pain, so who cares about them?
Re:they are making TOYS not medicine (Score:1)
Light bulbs... applied during World War II (Score:2)
Biotoy: shoestring or shoddy or scam? (Score:3)
Re:Oh awesome.. (Score:1)
Re:Rat torturing bastards? (Score:1)
> Depends on the human
What about lawyers or MS programmers, they're not really human...
Re:SATAN??? Not really.... (Score:2)
According to the story, Lucifer was called LightBringer before he rebelled and fell, as he was the angel on the right hand of God, God's A-Number-One Angel.
And, of course, the protein is named luciferin for the same reason -- it 'carries' or 'bears' light. (No, not because the protein sat at the right hand of God....)
So, nothing sinister here, the protein was not named by Satanists, the gun is not a tool of the devil. Just a coincidence from the fact that science and the church both use Latin a lot.
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Pretty accurate (Score:1)
Correcting myself (Score:1)
Fishing trips? (Score:2)
I found a page on bioluminescence [ucsd.edu] after reading an an article [newscientist.com] on using bioluminescent dinoflagellates to monitor fluid flow about a month ago. I think most bioluminescent organisms use very similar proteins.
Something is fishy. (Pun pun pun) Why in the world do these people need to take that many expensive fishing trips? Luciferin-luciferase systems are understood. In fact, they are easy to buy and culture [ucsd.edu]. Is there something special about jellyfish?
The toys are very cool, but this technology seems much less rare and expensive than the article implies.
New model for private science funding? (Score:1)
Quick, get out your lawyers. (Score:1)
I wonder if there''ll be any future lawsuits from parents, if their kids start glowing in the dark at night and keeping everybody awake.
Hey, it could happen.
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What is the gene they're using? (Score:1)
Wha? (Score:1)
I was guessing that Ca is a cofactor for the enzyme too, but which enzyme? Do they actually mention luciferins somewhere on the product site?
Astroglide? (Score:1)
High calcium content?
Glowing drinks, etc. The requirement for calcium? (Score:2)
The squirt gun requires contact with calcium to glow. The other two products, including H2O Glow, do NOT. Note their claims of the ability to make "glowing tap water". (Actually, I think some tap water does have calcium.)
Look on their safety page. The squirtgun (calcium-activated) and other products use different substances. (Specifically, the squirtgun uses NanoFlash+NanoFuel while all the others use NanoGlow+NanoFuel) So it IS most likely possible to create glowing drinks, etc.
Note that ProLume's page has a link to an article that mentions bioluminescent champagne.
what else can we do? (Score:3)
put it in a pool/lake so people can swim at night
or, have people drink it before they go swim at night, so people can see each other/to help a lifegaurd see people who are drowning
put it in water and water other people's lawn's with it, thus really pissing them off when it gets dark
use it in ink for your pen/in books, so you can read at night more easily
blood for that Lizard-guy that was mentioned a few days back
put a few drops in your eyes
and, since you need Calcium for all this stuff to work apparently, the official slogan for all of these fine products will be.....
"Got Milk?"
Re: who's Satan??? (Score:1)
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Re:OOoo Shiny.. the Homer Simpson factor (Score:1)
Re:Applications? (Score:1)
does not (Score:1)
Re:toxic or not? (Score:2)
Re:Powdered genes?! (Score:2)
Thanks
Bruce
But how do we ensure propagation? (Score:2)
Re:glowsticks (Score:1)
No, they arent refillable.. hmm, we've never broken one in half, to get at the guts...not sure what they are made of...
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Re:Shake..Shake...Shake... (Score:1)
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Re:Hmm...Flashlight tag (Score:1)
Re:SATAN??? (Score:1)
Yeah, yeah, OffTopic -1
Re:YES (Score:1)
Taking this in mind, you'd think I was against animal testing... Personally, I think if they breed the animals just FOR that then they aren't harming the ones that know any better, just the ones that were destined to die anyway.
Plus I don't think I'd be willing to try something someone handed to me when they said "Just try a sip... We think it'll do this but it'll possibly hurt more than anything else you've ever felt your entire life."
- 8Complex
Re:Paintball! (Score:1)
Re:H2O Glow? (Score:1)
Re: what else can we do? (Score:1)
Cows (Score:1)
Re:Hmm...Flashlight tag (Score:1)
There is a precedent for positive feedback in games, particularly drinking games. Many drinking games require the player to do something tricky, like reciting a tongue twister, and take a drink if he fails. More drinks make it harder to do the tricky thing, hence positive feedback.
Re:SATAN??? (Score:1)
Lucifer was originally an angel (hence the 'light' part),
but God smacked him down...
--Kevin
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Damn! (Score:1)
Slashdotted?
--Kevin
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Paintball! (Score:1)
But judging by the prices on the website, and how much paint is normally,
a 500 count bag of 'glowballs' would prolly cost ~$200...
But think about how cool an evening game would be!
--Kevin
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Re:Rat torturing bastards? (Score:1)
Depends on the human...
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Re: what else can we do? (Score:2)
In the 1970s when my family got its pool, there was a chemical you could buy and add to your pool that would turn purple if anyone urinated in the pool. The idea being that folks wouldn't pee in the pool if they knew they'd be caught.
My parent's never bought the additive because they were afraid that their friends would compete to see who could create the longest purple stream.
Init-"I Am So Offtopic It Hurts"-Zero
(PS: Instead of the chemical, we bought a sign that said 'we don't swim in your toilet, please don't piss in our pool'. {shakes head} The 70's. Gotta love 'em.)
Applications? (Score:2)
* Alcoholic beverages.
Obviously, some bartender is going to start making Glowing Pan-Galactic Gargle-Blasters out of this stuff soon.
* Fountains.
Now a building dosen't have to use lights to illuminate their expensive fountains. On the flip side, this could become a new prank. Instead of dishwashing liquid, use jellyfish powder to trash a fountain.
*Art.
I don't know the physical properties of this stuff. If you could freeze the treated water, and assuming it would still glow, you could do some neat stuff. Imagine an ice sculpture, gently glowing from an internal bluish glow.
*Entertainment
Treat the entire water supply in a water park. (Yes, this would require insane quantities of the jellyfish stuff). Going down a water slide in the dark when all the water is glowing around you would be a complete trip.
Any other ideas?
--jwriney
John Riney III
Re:Interesting, but... (Score:1)
Everyone assuming that the rats were used for testing, to ONLY sell the toys, are jumping to conclusions.
To put it another way, the toys are a byproduct of the research, not the original reason for the research.
Quote from Prolume website [nanolight.com]:
"Valuable life science uses for NanoLight's technology include high-throughput drug discovery, functional genomics, tumor imaging, replacement of radioisotopes, and molecular diagnostics. One particularly exciting application is the ability to use NanoLight's reporter systems to "illuminate" gene and molecular function within living cells, allowing pharmaceutical companies a revolutionary method to study drug activity. A second opportunity is to broadly supply researchers who are increasingly moving away from radioactive reagents and toward light-based reporter systems and instruments. NanoLight Technologies is poised to capitalize on both of these accelerating market trends."
Quote 2 from the CNN article [cnn.com]:
"The idea is to raise enough money from selling novelty items to underwrite more important pursuits, such as using the glowing genes to identify cancerous tumors or detect nerve gas."
It appears to me that people are seeing the term "animal testing" and immediately going into some type of "environmental gestapo" mode without first being fully aware of the motives and facts behind said animal testing.
Re:Rats & Rabbits (Score:1)
One particular point made near the end of the book, was that if environmentalists are THAT concerned about the Earth and animal rights, then perhaps they should all go live in the wilderness with the animals.
You all might like this stuff too (Score:2)
Re:You all might like this stuff too (Score:1)
I remember using a pair of toy binoculars to catch ants on fire as a little kid.
Re:Powdered genes?! (Score:2)
Dinner Party Madness (Score:2)
I can finally make the dinner parties mine own! I am the ambiant lighting technician here during the dinner parties and like to make the light low, but with the Bioluminescent H2O, I can light the dinner table from the table itself.
I will be able to show off my geek prowess while my girlfriend might be able to have not only the best food for dinner but the most novel approach -- a true way to best Martha Stewart.
I wonder if she'll be up for it or would this have to be beta-tested with just some of my co-workers? I guess its not a good thing to test it with the Parish Priest.
Biotoy isn't making the squirt guns. (Score:1)
- Cattywampus.
Re:OOoo Shiny.. the Homer Simpson factor (Score:2)
The best racoon trap is just a piece o shiny metal in a hole after all. Someone else can elaborate.
Re:bioluminescent? what if it dies? (Score:2)
Re:YES (Score:2)
Re:YES (Score:2)
Shake..Shake...Shake... (Score:1)
Cut Here (Score:1)
Re:Rat torturing bastards? (Score:2)
That's what "Not Tested On Animals" means. It means "Being Tested On You".
Re:Too much of a good thing?... (Score:3)
Plastics (Score:2)
Unfortunately it doesn't look like any of this stuff could be used in plastics or paint in place of dangerous chemicals like phosphorus and radio-active elements....
Which is a real pity. I could use a glow-in-the-dark PC case! Anyone know of any safe chemicals or paint?
Fluid Dynamics and other stuff (Score:2)
This actually could be very useful for fluid dynamics tests. Use NanoFuel and NanoFlash, and when the fluid hits hard turns or corners it will glow. This can highlight areas where there is problems with the flow of water.
Could also be useful for tracing liquids that make it into the sewer systems. Use NanoLight in the chemical source, and add NanoFuel in specific areas to track and trace where the leak is.
Wonder what sort of temperature range these things can stand.... Anyone?
Hmm...Flashlight tag (Score:3)
What about eye drops? Can this stuff be put into a saline solution and made into eye drops that would make my eyes glow? That would ROCK!
Drinking ? (Score:1)
On the otherhand
Re: what else can we do? (Score:1)
I always thought that was just a story people told kids to scare them out of pissing in pools. Worked, though.
Re:Powdered genes?! (Score:1)
commercial innovations (Score:2)
What would be really fun is if you could make a light bulb out of this liquid and powdered calcium. A refill would be a pack of tums.
Re:Shake..Shake...Shake... (Score:2)
Re:eye drops (Score:1)
Re:Bars, Clubs, etc (Score:1)
Re:bioluminescent? what if it dies? (Score:1)
http://prolume.com/ [prolume.com]
imagine the possibilities (Score:1)
Re:You all might like this stuff too (Score:1)
> dispersion, not focusing into a tight beam.
Hmmm? Works like a magnifying glass, but lighter. Hah, hah.
Ryan
Slashdotted? (Score:1)
Re:Biotoy isn't making the squirt guns. (Score:1)
Re:H20 glow mixed with alcohol (Score:1)
Ummm... It might help to read the article
Re:glowing lenses, here's why (Score:1)
In my case, the glasses in question have the lenses that are designed to change according to different lighting conditions. (dark lense when bright outside, clear when dark or inside building.)
the slight glowing tinge is i believe a result of the affect that blacklight has on the chemicals used in these lenses. My other pair of glasses with "regular" lenses, do not glow under black light.
And yes, it does make it harder to play laser tag. grr.
Re:Rats & Rabbits (Score:2)
*growls and bites the AC's ankle*
Err... nevermind...
Slashdot Raves!!! (Score:1)
Glowing (Score:1)
Minus the portman sponsorship, i think a slashdot rave would go over well
Re:glowsticks (Score:1)
If I remember correctly, luciferin & luciferase are the same chemicals fireflies use to produce their light.
Why don't you volunteer? (Score:2)
To do less would be hypocritical.
Glowing pools. (Score:2)
You'll probably have to turn off the clorination/ozoneation, or it might denature the proteins.
Why not? It's just a protein. (Score:2)
Re:Rats & Rabbits (Score:2)
I really hate imbeciles who dismiss out-of-hand any reference to the way the Nazis really were, and any comparison between their actions and those of a contemporary group. Such dismissal is extremely convenient for both neo-Nazis and those advocating feel-good political movements which lead to the empowerment of such totalitarian movements.
"Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it." If the ACTUAL history of the Nazis can be suppressed for about twenty years, we can expect to see them again - under another name, with a few details changed, but with the full "power and glory" intact.
And I'm not talking about twenty years from NOW. This has been going on for a while.
Read _The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich_ some time. And be very afraid.
Re:Rats & Rabbits (Score:5)
Animal rightists should pledge not to accept any medical treatment that was tested on animals - and wear a medic alert to that effect so the emergency room people will know to withhold such treatment if they're brought in unconscious.
My wife would have been dead long before I met her if not for animal research, and my best friend would have only one leg. Another close friend is a quadraplegic right now, and will probably remain so until he dies because of the government's ban on foetal tissue research.
One of the components of the Nazi mindset was animal rights - and it led in easy steps through replacement of lab animals with retarded humans and the definition of certain groups as "subhuman" to the "Medical Research" in the death camps.
I have no sympathy for people whose brains are so addled that they value the lives and health of rodents above the lives and health of human beings. That sort of thinking is only appropriate if the thinker is a rodent.
Re:glowing lenses, here's why (Score:1)
Re:Hmm...Flashlight tag (Score:2)
I would best describe it as though you were looking through a thin fog. Turn down the contrast and up the brightness on your monitor enough, and it's a similar effect. It's more annoying than it is hard to see through.
Re:Rats & Rabbits (Score:1)
bioluminescence (Score:2)
You're missing a crucial difference. (Score:3)
It's one thing that say that animal experimentation is sometimes necessary (when human lives are at stake, for example) and another to say that it should always be done. Sometimes, for example, animals are used instead of computer models that are just as good because animals are cheaper.
Even when animal testing is the only way to make sure something works, sometimes the end for which it's being done is pretty dubious. In the cosmetics industry, for example, there's a lot of rabbits being tortured to confirm the obvious proposition that yes, if you rub this stuff into your eyes and leave it in for 10 hours, you'll go blind.
No one disagrees that we should make sure our squirtguns don't maim our kids, but maybe if the only way we can be sure is by torturing animals, we should just go without our squirtguns. Many will want their squirtguns anyway, but you certainly don't have to have "brains [that are] addled" not to.
OOoo Shiny.. the Homer Simpson factor (Score:2)
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One trick pony (Score:3)
(Yes, I KNOW that was a hoax)
SATAN??? (Score:4)
heck no! I remember my childhood glow in the dark (Score:2)
I have always wanted more glow in the dark stuff. I remember as a kid having glow in the dark stars over my bed and a glow in the dark frizby. The ultimate would be something like this, though, where you could make yourself glow in the dark by spashing yourself with their solution.
Back in the day though we didn't have everything handed to us on a platter like kids do these days (it makes me sick sometimes to think how spoiled some of these brats are) No, instead of some counting on some big shot company to do it we had to do it ourselves!
How you may ask? Through hard work, that's how. After about 3 nights of collecting fire flies and glow worms you have about an inch of them in the bottom of a jar. Then all you have to do is smush them onto your self and presto! Home-made alien costume.
Ahhhhh... those were the days.
eye drops (Score:2)
Powdered genes?! (Score:2)
Um.. as I learned from high school biology, you can't 'load a squirt gun with powdered genes'. There's no such thing as a powdered gene, its just a sequence of DNA bases. You can of course have an organism transcribe those genes into proteins, and use the powdered bioluminescent protein. Looks like the article's author needs to learn some basic biology.
Will they liscense it? (Score:2)
Re:bioluminescent? what if it dies? (Score:2)
There are still glow in the dark paintballs (Score:2)
I know! I know! (Score:2)
Let people drink it, open their mouths, and you can tell if they're getting enough calcium by looking in their mouth and seeing how light it is in there :)
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Toys Rule (Score:3)
Well, now you can shoot them until they glow and, uh, shoot them in the dark.
matter of time (Score:2)