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The Search for Dark Matter Is Dramatically Expanding (wired.com) 55

Ever since astronomers reached a consensus in the 1980s that most of the mass in the universe is invisible -- that "dark matter" must glue galaxies together and gravitationally sculpt the cosmos as a whole -- experimentalists have hunted for the nonluminous particles. From a report: They first set out in pursuit of a heavy, sluggish form of dark matter called a weakly interacting massive particle, or WIMP -- the early favorite candidate for the cosmos's missing matter because it could solve another, unrelated puzzle in particle physics. Over the decades, teams of physicists set up ever larger targets, in the form of huge crystals and multi-ton vats of exotic liquids, hoping to catch the rare jiggle of an atom when a WIMP banged into it. But these detectors have stayed quiet, and physicists are increasingly contemplating a broader spectrum of possibilities. On the heavy end, they say the universe's invisible matter could clump into black holes as heavy as stars. At the other extreme, dark matter could spread out in a fine mist of particles thousands of trillions of trillions of times lighter than electrons. With new hypotheses come new detection methods. Kathryn Zurek, a theoretical physicist at the California Institute of Technology, said that if current WIMP experiments don't see anything, "then I think there's going to be a substantial part of the field that's going to shift into these new kinds of experiments." Already, the work has begun.
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The Search for Dark Matter Is Dramatically Expanding

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  • by apoc.famine ( 621563 ) <apoc...famine@@@gmail...com> on Monday December 07, 2020 @04:10PM (#60804258) Journal

    The whole universe is expanding, so it stands to reason that the search for dark matter would be too.

    • Is it notable that the Universe is expanding at the same rate as we are able to observe it?

      Conversely, at some point does astronomy make it too difficult to maintain the simulation, or do conventions such as 'c' keep processing down?

      • by gtall ( 79522 )

        It is called the Anthropic Principle. The Universe implements every idea man has about it the moment a man or woman has it.

        By the way, the simulation is just mathematics and is just a model, stop confusing mathematics with reality.

  • What is likely is that black holes and dark matter I are the likely marker for the more refined theory of physics. It is like aether or the fact that magnets act differently depending on which one is moving. The tiny particle hypothesis is basically saying that virtual particles carry weight.

    The kludges we build in to make everything work is just that, kludges. It is like thinking of waves and particles instead of fields.

    • The kludges we build in to make everything work is just that, kludges. It is like thinking of waves and particles instead of fields

      And what do you mean by "kludge"? Measured in multiple ways by multiple teams, there is matter that is affecting the universe that does not react like baryonic matter. I’m sure you are able to explain what physicists have not been able to explain for a few decades now. Perhaps you should present a paper with your ideas.

    • by rtb61 ( 674572 )

      What happens is that quantum particles do not have mass until they cluster together in sufficient density that they gravitationally displace other quantum particles and that displacements is proportional metered out based upon distance and clustered density. From photons clusters of quantum photonic particles, particle and wave, think of the particles as flotsam and jetsam floating on waves travelling much slower than the waves but still oscillating to the quantum particle waves. When it comes to subatomic

  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org] The plot lines were getting a bit silly but the group dynamic was top drawer.
  • Finding a particle or anything that has no inherent energy to radiate or react with normal atoms, only gravity and inert mass.
    • by dargaud ( 518470 )
      Yeah, maybe there are particles that are just dead ends: other particles can convert to them, but then the end result doesn't interact with anything and just stays there, playing dumb like your mom.
  • Does "expanding" really mean, more search is conducted by more experiments or does it mean, that the potential search space has expanded, because more (and more exotic particles) have to be accounted for? This wasn't really clear from the article.

    • There is no reason to assume the search efforts increase like it was a missing person we're searching. It will mean they'll have to accept a wider range of theories. I cannot imagine that failing to find an answer would be grounds to throw more money at it. Life on planet Earth will continue with or without mankind having a full understanding of the universe. When we cannot find an answer today should we shelf the problem for now, chase other problems, and in time take another look at it. I'm not saying to

      • by khchung ( 462899 )

        Dark Matter can wait.

        Had scientists used the same logic in the last two centuries, we would still be using steam engines and we wouldn't have electricity and radio, because that strange phenomenon about sparks "can wait". Neither would we have IC chips because quantum mechanics "can wait".

        Fortunately, most scientists were not so short-sighted and arrogant to think that any mortal could guess which scientific discovery "can wait" or not.

        • Had scientists used the same logic in the last two centuries ...

          Spare us the drama. Clearly you still need to learn when to take a break.

    • Does "expanding" really mean, more search is conducted by more experiments or does it mean, that the potential search space has expanded, because more (and more exotic particles) have to be accounted for? This wasn't really clear from the article.

      No, no, no. Dark energy is rapidly expanding the universe itself, if we don’t hurry up and measure dark matter now it’s going to drop off the visible horizon and if you think people don’t believe it’s real now, just wait till it drops off from causality.

  • Could someone explain how small or small-ish black holes could be an option? Interactions between black holes and ordinary matter are violent. If there was a halo of black holes around our galaxy (and others) shouldn't we occasionally see huge bursts of energy when they accidentally crashed into ordinary matter. Also, even if the black hole had no accretion disk at first, shouldn't it get one over time from random interactions with matter (and thus be visible)? Also, shouldn't conservation of momentum mean

    • We are talking about very small black holes, probably size of a marble.
      Their interactions you do not really notice, we could have one (some?) in the core of the earth and it would take billion of years until someone realizes.

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