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A Beautiful Mind Mathematician John F. Nash Jr. Dies 176

Rick Zeman writes: John F. Nash Jr. revolutionized the mathematical field of game theory and was given a mind that was unique and deeply troubled. He became known to most people by the movie about his life, A Beautiful Mind. Dr. Nash died, along with his wife, May 24 in a two-car accident on the New Jersey Turnpike. The Washington Post reports: "In 1994, when Dr. Nash received the Nobel Prize in economics, the award marked not only an intellectual triumph but also a personal one. More than four decades earlier, as a Princeton University graduate student, he had produced a 27-page thesis on game theory — in essence, the applied mathematical study of decision-making in situations of conflict — that would become one of the most celebrated works in the field. Before the academic world could fully recognize his achievement, Dr. Nash descended into a condition eventually diagnosed as schizophrenia. For the better part of 20 years, his once supremely rational mind was beset by delusions and hallucinations. By the time Dr. Nash emerged from his disturbed state, his ideas had influenced economics, foreign affairs, politics, biology — virtually every sphere of life fueled by competition. But he been absent from professional life for so long that some scholars assumed he was dead."
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  • by TWX ( 665546 ) on Sunday May 24, 2015 @09:50AM (#49763415)
    ...wants a Nobel Prize, one's work must be in Economics, or Physics, or otherwise be recognizable in another discipline beyond one's actual field of study.
    • Re: (Score:1, Informative)

      There isn't a Nobel prize in Economics though, even if that is what the article says. It is the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences as Alfred Nobel did not set it up.
      • by AthanasiusKircher ( 1333179 ) on Sunday May 24, 2015 @10:36AM (#49763559)

        There isn't a Nobel prize in Economics though, even if that is what the article says. It is the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences as Alfred Nobel did not set it up.

        Yes, it's technically correct [nobelprize.org], though I get tired of hearing this brought up all the time, as if it's some sort of weird conspiracy theory to make it sound like there's a "Nobel Prize" when there isn't one.

        Look -- the Nobel Prizes are awarded by the Nobel Foundation [wikipedia.org]. They use the same administrative mechanisms and process for choosing the economics prize, the same academic body (the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences) makes the selections as most other prizes, they give the same award money, and they give the award at the same ceremony.

        The difference is that the other prizes were created by Nobel himself, while the economics prize [wikipedia.org] was later endowed by contributions to the Nobel Foundation, who agreed to administer the prize under the same criteria.

        So yes, while Nobel himself didn't set it up, the fact is that the only body that matters NOW is who awards the prize, that that foundation (which actually OWNS and administers things called "Nobel Prizes") has decided to award a prize in economics too, which it basically treats in every way EXACTLY THE SAME as the other prizes.

        This strikes me like someone claiming that the Harvard Medical School or the Harvard Business School aren't REALLY "Harvard" schools, because John Harvard didn't explicitly will money to create schools of medicine or business or whatever back in the 1630s... he just wanted to create a college, and it was mostly a kind of seminary in the early days. So, you may think you are a Harvard Medical School grad -- but it's not REALLY "Harvard."

        There IS a bit of a difference here because the Nobel Foundation itself tries to keep a subtle distinction in the naming of the prizes, probably due to legal constraints about how the will was worded exactly. But acting like there's some big difference and it's not "really a Nobel Prize" is ridiculous -- it's just a historical and semantic distinction, not one that actually means anything in terms of how the prize is administered, selected, or awarded. And that's probably why the media usually makes little distinction, because in all ways that ACTUALLY MATTER, there isn't one.

        (And by the way, usually this argument tends to come up from people who want to claim economics isn't a "real science" or something. I won't get into that argument, but well, neither is "peace" or "literature.")

        • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 24, 2015 @10:39AM (#49763565)

          When Barack Hussein Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize for doing ... oh yeah, absolutely nothing, the entire credibility of all Nobel prizes took a swift kick in the gonads. Including those based on science and mathematics.

          • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

            by Anonymous Coward

            I, for one, knew it was the prize award for "Not Being George W. Bush" and recognized the political meaning to the prize, a well-established practice that did nothing to the credibility of the awarding.

            Unless you don't like giving GWB the finger.

            • by Livius ( 318358 )

              "Not Being George W. Bush"

              ...was considered a great advance for world peace by almost the entire planet.

            • But you thought it was credible to give Kissinger one?

              • by hawkfish ( 8978 )

                But you thought it was credible to give Kissinger one?

                While this was justly ridiculed (by Tom Lehrer no less) I suspect that most of the people responsible are either dead or no longer involved. At what point do institutions reach redemption?

          • When Barack Hussein Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize for doing ... oh yeah, absolutely nothing, the entire credibility of all Nobel prizes took a swift kick in the gonads. Including those based on science and mathematics.

            It was to make up for having awarded it to Henry Kissinger in 1973.

          • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

            When Barack Hussein Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize for doing ... oh yeah, absolutely nothing, the entire credibility of all Nobel prizes took a swift kick in the gonads. Including those based on science and mathematics.

            It wasn't for nothing. It was very likely because at the time he was single-handedly pushing for nuclear disarmament negotiations with Russia. I know this because a relative of mine was involved in the process.

            • you get the prize for accomplishments (should anyway) not wishes and dreams
              • you get the prize for accomplishments (should anyway) not wishes and dreams

                With Congress and the Senate in the hands of the republicans, what can he really do? Pretty much nothing except twiddle dials.

                • funny, clinton seemed to do ok with a republican congress


                  but besides all of that, your blame the republicans tactic has nothing at all to do with him winning the award. Plain and simple he got the award when he did absolutely NOTHING to deserve it
                • not to mention that he had the house and senate at the time he got the award, and still nothing worthy
              • you get the prize for accomplishments (should anyway) not wishes and dreams

                He accomplished that a bat-shit insane person couldn't accidentally become president. Good enough for me.

            • and look at how well that turned out.....
            • So, you're related to some asshole who was one of a faceless hoard fighting against Obama, pushing to maintain the status quo on the ramp-up of nuclear armament? I'd want to stay anonymous, too.
          • by Nehmo ( 757404 )

            When... Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize for doing ... nothing, the entire credibility of all Nobel prizes took a swift kick ...

            I can't and won't get over that either. (BTW, I supported O's election considering the opposition.) Every time I hear "Nobel," I think tainted. And if O had any dignity, he would have declined accepting it.

          • the prize was sullied before then, but yeah that pretty much killed it
          • by TWX ( 665546 )

            When Barack Hussein Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize for doing ... oh yeah, absolutely nothing, the entire credibility of all Nobel prizes took a swift kick in the gonads. Including those based on science and mathematics.

            The Nobel Peace Price lost credibility when it was awarded to Henry Kissinger, who had, I assure you, done plenty.

        • And by the way, usually this argument tends to come up from people who want to claim economics isn't a "real science" or something. I won't get into that argument, but well, neither is "peace" or "literature."

          Those people are right, and you're right about peace and literature.
          Nash's contribution was really in mathematics, though, so that's fine by me.
          BTW, the best proof that economics isn't a science, is that it isn't even included there : http://xkcd.com/435/ [xkcd.com]

        • And by the way, usually this argument tends to come up from people who want to claim economics isn't a "real science" or something.

          The burden on proof really is on people (usually economists among themselves) that pretend that economics is a science.

          • And by the way, usually this argument tends to come up from people who want to claim economics isn't a "real science" or something.

            The burden on proof really is on people (usually economists among themselves) that pretend that economics is a science.

            I just want to be clear that I was in no way implying that economics is (or is not) a "real science" (whatever that means). The point of the end of my post was that this is often an argument brought up about Nobel Prizes, but such a criterion doesn't seem to be relevant given that there are prizes given for things that are definitely not "sciences" AND which were instituted by Nobel himself.

        • Yes, it's technically correct, though I get tired of hearing this brought up all the time, as if it's some sort of weird conspiracy theory to make it sound like there's a "Nobel Prize" when there isn't one.

          There is the matter that Nobel, nor his family, even those alive today, had any intention of giving an award to economists. The award is given in the memory of Alfred Nobel, which is nice, but taken to the extreme and you get David Miscavage giving Tom Cruise the "Albert Einstein Humanitarian Anti-Psycho

        • My point is simply the name is Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences, no conspiracy.
    • by Xiaran ( 836924 )
      They can always get a Fields Medal. Also a Nobel prize in economics isn't really.
      • by Carewolf ( 581105 ) on Sunday May 24, 2015 @10:24AM (#49763511) Homepage

        Yeah, but the Fields medal is bit difficult because it has a low age limit. So you have write somthing great and get recognized for it before the age of 30

        • by Anonymous Coward

          40 is the upper bound for the Fields Medal, and since it is only awarded every 4 years, the effective age limit is somewhere between 36 and 40 depending upon your birth year modulo 4.

      • by Terje Mathisen ( 128806 ) on Sunday May 24, 2015 @11:10AM (#49763639)

        Just 5 days ago, John F. Nash and Louis Nirenberg got the Abel price in a ceremony in Oslo:

        http://www.abelprize.no/ [abelprize.no]

        With a diploma handed over by the Norwegian King Harald and a NOK 6M prize this is the closest thing math has to a Nobel prize.

        Unlike the Fields Medal there is no age limit, so just like the Nobel prizes it tends to be given out at a later date, for work that has proven itself to be really outstanding.

        Terje

        • by HuguesT ( 84078 )

          This is a terrible irony. His death is most untimely indeed. Here is a high-level description of Nash's work on PDEs by C. Villani [cedricvillani.org].

          I personally have extreme admiration for Nash’s work on partial differential equations. He wrote just one paper on the subject, in 1958 (Continuity of solutions of parabolic and elliptic equations), but this one of the most astonishing works in the history of partial differential equations. His proof has been often described as complicated, but I find it extremely attractive, and I also like a lot the way the paper is written: with a lot of explanations about his intuition and the way he arrived at the result. The genesis of the paper is fascinating, as discussed in Nasar’s book. By the way, one of the ingredients in the proof is Boltzmann’s entropy functional.

          Here is another description from the Abel Prize page [abelprize.no].

          The paper is here. [mff.cuni.cz]

    • by amiga3D ( 567632 )

      But isn't math a part of Economics and Physics?

  • A true loss (Score:5, Insightful)

    by houstonbofh ( 602064 ) on Sunday May 24, 2015 @09:52AM (#49763419)
    Truly a tragic loss, not just for science, but for all who were still learning from him. Both math, and that limitations are not what stops you.
    • And so preventable (Score:5, Interesting)

      by justthinkit ( 954982 ) <floyd@just-think-it.com> on Sunday May 24, 2015 @10:24AM (#49763515) Homepage Journal

      A taxi that they were riding in was struck by another vehicle and the pair were ejected from the taxi [wikipedia.org].

      Why don't we wear seatbelts in taxi cabs? Is it even legal to not wear seat belts?

      • by OzPeter ( 195038 )

        A taxi that they were riding in was struck by another vehicle and the pair were ejected from the taxi [wikipedia.org].

        Why don't we wear seatbelts in taxi cabs? Is it even legal to not wear seat belts?

        Its hard to convince Americans in general to wear seat belts.

        • I think it's an age thing too. When I was growing (admittedly this is about 25 years ago) up there was an old lady that used to walk into town. We often gave her a lift and she would pull the seat belt across her, and hold it but not plug it in. I don't know anyone in my age group (or my parents' age group) that don't wear seatbelts - but then they've been mandatory in any countries I've lived in.

      • by tnk1 ( 899206 )

        It is legal to not wear a seat belt in the back seat in many jurisdictions, and the regulation where it is required is enforced in even fewer. The idea being, I suppose, that the seats ahead of you keep you from being ejected through the windshield.

        However, if one was riding in the front seat, the wearing of seat belts is required by law just about everywhere now.

        It was not clear to me their seating when they were ejected, but at least one would have been in the back, presumably. Certainly, I have trouble

        • The idea being, I suppose, that the seats ahead of you keep you from being ejected through the windshield.

          Which is pretty flawed - the seats may well stop you flying through the windscreen, but it quite likely there's some poor bastard in that seat who's going to get clobbered. In the UK they used to have a road safety advert [youtube.com] that went along the lines of

          Like most victims - July knew her killer - it was her son, who wasn't wearing his seatbelt...

        • by Toshito ( 452851 )

          It is legal to not wear a seat belt in the back seat in many jurisdictions, and the regulation where it is required is enforced in even fewer.

          You're right, and I find that quite strange.

          Maybe some legislators need an update on the laws of physics, and the facts that they apply to all the car and not just the front seats.

      • Yeah, we should give Nash a big fine to deter him from doing it again.

        • Did I say I'm not sympathetic? I happen to have kids, so I come at this from the "think of the children" angle.

          I'm just surprised cabs let people not use seatbelts, is all. It wouldn't take too many sting operations for them to change, though...

          I find it fascinating what we freak out about, versus what we tolerate. The same set of points can be made about city buses. I get that seatbelts are harder for them to use. And that they are heavier vehicles, so the relative force imparted on collision is l
          • by lgw ( 121541 )

            Stop treating everyone as children. Adults are moral entities with agency, and can damn well decide on their own whether to wear a seatbelt or not.

            I find it fascinating what we freak out about, versus what we tolerate.

            Exactly: we seem t have a collective fetish for forcing others to make the same choices that we would, instead of respecting one another as people just like us, each with the right to find his own distinct path to happiness.

            • Adults are moral entities with agency, and can damn well decide on their own whether to wear a seatbelt or not.

              It's not so easy : by not wearing a seatbelt, you make it easier for others (taxi driver and other drivers on the road) to accidentally kill you. It's a big burden that you could put on other "moral entities".

              • by lgw ( 121541 )

                That is the key to embracing totalitarianism: everything each of us do will always have some negative effect on another, thus the government must control everything each of us do for the common good. There's always an excuse you can find for that government control - always.

          • In the UK, most (if not all) coaches have seatbelts. The announcement on my local service into London is "this coach has seatbelts and it's a legal requirement to wear one" - and I do, because I've seen what happens when one of those coaches crashes on the motorway.

      • But what is the Nash equilibrium in the game of not wearing a seatbelt vs resources spent on increasing seatbelt use?

    • by Dunbal ( 464142 ) *

      Both math, and that limitations are not what stops you.

      But a Crown Victoria in the face usually does.

  • By the time Dr. Nash emerged from his disturbed state, his ideas had influenced economics, foreign affairs, politics, biology — virtually every sphere of life

    I just like how it sounds... ignore me!

    • By the time Dr. Nash emerged from his disturbed state, his ideas had influenced economics, foreign affairs, politics, biology — virtually every sphere of life

      I would think that his disturbed state actually influenced his theories. I believe that his paranoid schizophrenia started somewhat early on. I cannot imagine how such a profound mental disturbance would not influence one's intellect.

  • Thanks You Dr. Nash (Score:5, Interesting)

    by cosm ( 1072588 ) <thecosm3@gmai l . c om> on Sunday May 24, 2015 @09:56AM (#49763435)
    Historical inaccuracies aside, the movie A Beautiful Mind inspired me to pursue and receive my B.S. in Mathematics which resulted in a very lucrative and satisfactory career. My thanks go out to Dr. Nash and my condolences go out to his family.
    • by PolygamousRanchKid ( 1290638 ) on Sunday May 24, 2015 @11:54AM (#49763805)

      Hey, he wasn't just a mathematician, he was also a computer geek. I used to see him back in the early 80's in the middle of the night in the Princeton computer center, wandering around with a deck of punch cards for the IBM mainframe.

      I was playing Frisbee in a field with some friends, and it started to drizzle. Professor Nash walked by, and laid down on a bench under a tree. He folded his hands together, closed his eyes, and looked really placid, but we could see that he was thinking about something.

      You know that saying, "A penny for your thoughts?" I would have paid a fortune to know what he was thinking about!

      • Heh. I was at Princeton last year, and apparently everyone there had a Nash story about him just walking in to a random room with his sweater on, doing something weird, and then moving on.

    • How long was your career? The movie came out in 2001.
      Also, may I ask what you do?

      • by cosm ( 1072588 )
        I'm still a software engineer for a major Fortune 500 semiconductor company. I assist the network protocol teams with the mathematics behind various protocols and RFCs along the lines of things like WRED, TCP/IP, BGP, OSPF (think route convergence, etc). I saw the film about 8 years ago, and later on switched my major from physics to math and haven't looked backed since. Thanks for inquiring!
  • I would change that title to "Game Theory mathematician dies..." In honor of his accomplishments. He was not famous because of the movie.
    • He's famous in pop culture because of the film, that's because most of us are uneducated knuckledraggers.

    • by AchilleTalon ( 540925 ) on Sunday May 24, 2015 @10:21AM (#49763499) Homepage
      He is known for his work in game theory, however he is not a game theory mathematician since before fading into his mental illness he was working on quantum theory. His paper on game theory is his Ph. D. thesis. Just the tip of the iceberg this mathematician was and could have been if the illness didn't stopped him. Anyhow, it is very sad he and his wife died in an automobile accident.
      • His paper on game theory is his Ph. D. thesis. Just the tip of the iceberg this mathematician was and could have been if the illness didn't stopped him.

        Somehow intellectual brilliance seems to have its way with mental stability, let's just hope some brilliant mind will discover a treatment some time in the future.

      • He is known for his work in game theory, however he is not a game theory mathematician since before fading into his mental illness he was working on quantum theory. His paper on game theory is his Ph. D. thesis. Just the tip of the iceberg this mathematician was and could have been if the illness didn't stopped him.

        Indeed. If you look at his actual proof [wikipedia.org] of the existence Nash equilibrium it's a brilliant piece of mathematics where he freely jumps between seemingly unrelated fields of mathematics (probability theory in one instance, geometry in the next etc.), like a butterfly between flowers on a meadow. Obvious only in hindsight.

        However, as schizophrenia [wikipedia.org] is a disease that is characterised by the brain making associations between things that can't even be associated (e.g. "clanging [wikipedia.org]" thinking as if words that rhyme act

    • by amiga3D ( 567632 )

      He became famous to the public at large through the movie.

      • He became famous to the public at large through the movie.

        I thought this site offered News for Nerds, not for people who watch Oscar-bait movies.

  • Did the other driver get charged by police...if there is one...

  • decision-making in situations of conflict

    Sounds like the New Jersey Turnpike alright.

  • Fear of Driving (Score:3, Insightful)

    by sonicmerlin ( 1505111 ) on Sunday May 24, 2015 @11:31AM (#49763703)

    It amazes me how nutty people get over "terrorists" when the roads are like a civilized version of Mad Max. People constantly die every day. Tens of thousands of lives unnecessarily lost every year just to automobile accidents. I feel like I'm the only rational person when I experience a certain apprehension every time I get behind a wheel, knowing that while racing through space in a multi ton coffin, even a small mistake could send me careening to my death.

    • People get nutty because media get nutty. Media get nutty about terrorists attacks, because these are things to report about. Basically, they do exactly what the terrorists want them to do: spread the information about the event.

      If a plane crashes, media report, because hundreds of people die at the same moment. No news channel will send live 4k helicopter footage from all 300 car accidents that would be needed to create a comparable number of deaths on the road.

      • Consider if the media did do this — detail the (on average) 90 people killed in the US on the roads in one day. And then did it again the next day. And the next. And the next.

        Perhaps then the population would demand a proportionate response. Or at least would place the current risk from terrorism in context.

        Once that's done, we could move on to cancer.

    • It amazes me how nutty people get over "terrorists" when the roads are like a civilized version of Mad Max. People constantly die every day. Tens of thousands of lives unnecessarily lost every year just to automobile accidents. I feel like I'm the only rational person when I experience a certain apprehension every time I get behind a wheel, knowing that while racing through space in a multi ton coffin, even a small mistake could send me careening to my death.

      The difference is that while you are indeed taking a small risk every time you get on the road, you have the luke-warm comfort of knowing that just like, you the vast majority of other people on the road don't want to die themselves, or see you die. Doesn't mean they're all as careful as they should be, and some are indeed belligerent and dangerous on the road, though they are the minuscule exceptions. Most accidents are the result of inattentiveness in one form or another, or poor judgment.

      People, on t

      • Yeah, but malicious intent is only a part of the threat equation. I'd rather have one completely incompetent malicious guy trying to kill me, specifically, than a thousand incompetent but well-meaning drivers around me.

        Just because malice feels more dangerous doesn't make it so. It may well be more reprehensible, but decisions affecting foreign policy and national security shouldn't be made based on feelings.

    • American traffic is pretty tame compared to many other regions: Middle East and South Korea come immediately to mind. The laws of physics do not apply in their minds. Other regions, like India or the Philippines are just plain chaotic as hell, not necessarily rude, but primitive.

      American traffic behavior may be poor compared to say, The Netherlands or Sweden, but it is MUCH more tame than a large majority of the world... and let's not bring Russian traffic into this discussion.

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