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11 Trillion Gallons of Water Needed To End California Drought 330

mrflash818 points out a new study which found that California can recover from its lengthy drought with a mere 11 trillion gallons of water. The volume this water would occupy (roughly 42 cubic kilometers) is half again as large as the biggest water reservoir in the U.S. A team of JPL scientists worked this out through the use of NASA's Gravity Recovery and Climate Experiment (GRACE) satellites. From the article: GRACE data reveal that, since 2011, the Sacramento and San Joaquin river basins decreased in volume by four trillion gallons of water each year (15 cubic kilometers). That's more water than California's 38 million residents use each year for domestic and municipal purposes. About two-thirds of the loss is due to depletion of groundwater beneath California's Central Valley. ... New drought maps show groundwater levels across the U.S. Southwest are in the lowest two to 10 percent since 1949.
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11 Trillion Gallons of Water Needed To End California Drought

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  • ... they are creating a nice, warm dessert there, something the planet does obviously not have enough of. Finally the decades of knowingly over-using the available water supply are going to pay off.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    GRACE data reveal that since 2011, farmers raising water-intensive crops in barren desert soil caused the Sacramento and San Joaquin river basins to decrease in volume by four trillion gallons of water each year (15 cubic kilometers).

    • by psycho12345 ( 1134609 ) on Tuesday December 16, 2014 @10:10PM (#48614301)
      Actually, the main crop that is quite profitable but requires vast amounts of water is not rice, but nuts, specifically Almonds. Rice isn't a problem because the delta around the Sacramento river normally floods, so it doesn't take a ton of effort to rice farm up there. The issue is irrigating both snowmelt and river water to the central valley to grow almonds and other crops.
    • by memnock ( 466995 )

      To which conservatives would probably reply, '11 trillion according to scientists? What do they know? The market will fix this in no time and come in at half that amount' or some such bullshit.

  • by MMC Monster ( 602931 ) on Tuesday December 16, 2014 @08:15PM (#48613725)

    Is that a lot? I mean compared to rainfall over that area.

    • by Matheus ( 586080 ) on Tuesday December 16, 2014 @08:27PM (#48613819) Homepage

      It's about 0.37% of Lake Superior...

      Anyway... according to the news and Google they've received about 10Trillion gallons of rain in the past 10 days SO guess problem solved ;-)

    • by ShanghaiBill ( 739463 ) on Tuesday December 16, 2014 @08:34PM (#48613863)

      Is that a lot? I mean compared to rainfall over that area.

      It is about 10cm or 4 inches spread over the entire state.

      There are 264 gallons per cubic meter. So 11 trillion gallons is 4.16e10 m^3. California has an area of 424,000 km^2, or 4.24e11 m^2. So divide the volume by the area, and you get the depth = 4.16e10/4.24e11 = 0.098 m or 9.8 cm or about 4 inches.

      I live in San Jose, and we have gotten more than 4 inches of rain in the last week, and it is still raining. There are areas of California (the Mojave Desert) that get a lot less, but also areas (the North Coast) that get a lot more.

      • The real question is, what does an average average californian rainfall look like. Sure, SJ got a lot last thursday and is continuing to get a bunch, but how does that small area average out with the rest of CA?

        • by dywolf ( 2673597 )

          a lot of it needs to go back into the ground, into the underground aquafers, instead of just running to the ocean. large portions of the state have sunken because of the depleted gruond water. Areas are as much as 20-40 feet lower than they were a half century ago.

          California is also more dependent on its snowpack than actual precipation.
          Its an arid state that recieves little precipitation outside of the mountains.
          most of its yearly water supply comes from the snowpack of the Sierra mountains, acting like a

      • by Kohath ( 38547 ) on Tuesday December 16, 2014 @09:36PM (#48614161)

        If you set 11000 Libraries of Congress on fire, it would be enough to put the fire out.

  • Better Link (Score:5, Informative)

    by skam240 ( 789197 ) on Tuesday December 16, 2014 @08:17PM (#48613737)

    I wasn't real thrilled with the linked article. All it did was call out a number with nothing to scale it against.

    A real quick search brought up an estimate of three years worth of rain like this would be needed to make up for the drought and also had some other ways of relating what 11 trillion gallons actually means as precipitation received is traditionally measured in inches.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/wh... [cbsnews.com]

  • by Barlo_Mung_42 ( 411228 ) on Tuesday December 16, 2014 @08:18PM (#48613755) Homepage

    that we not get it all at once please.

  • "California can recover...". and without it they can't, or won't?
  • Huh, growing crops in a desert is not such a great idea, isn't it?

    • Huh, growing crops in a desert is not such a great idea, isn't it?

      At the prices the people growing the crops pay for that water, you bet it is. Now, about how those prices are made...

    • Re:Go figure (Score:5, Informative)

      by techno-vampire ( 666512 ) on Tuesday December 16, 2014 @08:44PM (#48613903) Homepage
      Most of California isn't desert, only parts of Southern California. As an example, the Central Valley, the state's biggest agricultural area isn't, nor are the wine growing areas near San Francisco, and yet, they're being hit by the drought just as badly.
      • The San Joaquin Valley is only green because of irrigation. Agriculture is not sustainable there without depleting underground water resources.

        • That may be so, but the San Joaquin Valley is only the southernmost part of the Central Valley. And, a large part of the irrigation water comes from the northern half of the valley, AKA the Sacramento Valley which normally has more water than it needs.
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  • ... overpopulation? Maybe it's time to address the underlying problem that isn't going to go away even if we continue to ignore it... we are coming closer and closer to not being able to sustain our growing population.

    How now brown cow?

    • by iamacat ( 583406 ) on Tuesday December 16, 2014 @09:40PM (#48614177)

      Like not enough drinking water for everyone? This not at all what is happening. It's unsustainable agriculture, excessive urban landscaping and lastly, perhaps a need to adjust some social norms. People didn't take daily showers through most of human history.

    • There may be too many Californians, but please don't solve your California problems of unemployment, crime, high taxes, ridiculous cost of living, etc. by moving to Texas. If you do, as so many have, please leave your failed political ideology in California. You're coming to Texas because here you can get a good paying job that you can't get in California, you can buy a nice house for $100,000, etc. In other words, because the Texas way is working better.

      Since you've decided life will be better in Tex

    • With "Quiverfull" types rampant in the "conservative"* side of politics you are just going to be ignored or compared to Chairman Mao. They want a lot of the "right sort" of Americans to outbreed the others and don't care if the total size of the population becomes unsustainable. Their plan if that happens is just to take resources from the "wrong sort" of Americans.
      However, since they think success is their birthright we won't be seeing many doctors, engineers, lawyers etc from their large number of child
  • The San Francisco - Oakland - San Jose MSA area is 27000 km^2 [wikipedia.org]. (this MSA covers a large area, from Santa Cruz up to Sonoma)

    So, 42 km^3 spread over 27,000 km^2 is around 1.5m of rainfall.

    Add in the Sacramento CSA (which extends to Tahoe), and that's another 57,000 km^2 [wikipedia.org] and that takes it down to around half a meter of rain, or around 19" of rain.

    That doesn't seem like that much water since SF and Sacramento average over 20" of rain per year, so it sounds like they are saying that even if it only rained from

  • Begun, the water wars have.

    And what is going to happen when California doesn't get 11 trillion gallons of water?

    Things go to hell quickly when you start running out of water.

    • As someone else mentioned......if only there were a giant body of water nearby that could be desalinated.
      • Re:Begun ... (Score:5, Informative)

        by AaronW ( 33736 ) on Tuesday December 16, 2014 @09:11PM (#48614055) Homepage

        They've been doing that for years in my city to brackish water to supplement the water supply. The problem is that these last few years have been exceptionally dry. You can't just build desalination plants overnight, especially for the amount of water we're talking about, plus it needs to be transported quite a distance and is very expensive. Most of the water is used for agriculture. California produces around 1/3 of all of the food in the country.

    • by OzPeter ( 195038 ) on Tuesday December 16, 2014 @09:08PM (#48614047)

      Begun, the water wars have.

      Just watch out for the mutant Kangaroos and the hot girl driving the tank.

  • by jratcliffe ( 208809 ) on Tuesday December 16, 2014 @08:57PM (#48614007)

    Make something free (or nearly so), and people will use lots of it. CA's water problem is by no means insoluble.

    1. Figure out how much water the state can sustainably use.
    2. Set a price for water usage. Set a flat price for all users, residential, commercial, industrial. No reason that some users of water should get it more cheaply than others.
    3. If usage remains above the level determine in #1, raise the price.
    4. Repeat process until usage falls to the level determined in #1.

    Of course, this process would likely result in a big chunk of the unsustainable agriculture in CA going under, but so be it - basing a business on the assumption that you'll get continued massive discounts on a key input isn't particularly wise planning, and there's no reason why other CA water users should be forced to subsidize those businesses.

    • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward

      The next thing you'll know is Cohagan will want to have all of the air.

    • by iamacat ( 583406 ) on Tuesday December 16, 2014 @09:34PM (#48614153)

      5. Distribute proceeds equally to every resident.

      This is morally sound, as natural resources belong to everyone. It also turns what would otherwise be a disproportional burden on poor people into an opportunity. Now if you figure out how to be especially thrifty in regards to water use, you can end up with net positive income and use it to improve your life.

    • 1. Figure out how much water the state can sustainably use.

      I like your idea, but even this is a fight that's been going on for decades, if not longer.

    • by kenwd0elq ( 985465 ) <kenwd0elq@engineer.com> on Tuesday December 16, 2014 @10:26PM (#48614391)

      Certainly, flat-rate water has been a major factor in wastage of water in California. We only got water meters installed here in Sacramento about 4 years ago, which has resulted in a tripling of our water rates - and quadrupling of the pay to the bureaucrats who get sinecures on the various water boards.

      But California is a boom-and-bust state when it comes to water. We have 3-5 year drought periods that alternate with floods, such as the floods of 1986 and 1997. If this actually turns into an El Nino year (the forecasts for this are mixed, but generally unreliable either way) this may be another flood year. Folsom Lake and Lake Shasta were at historic lows 3 weeks ago, and have been at least partially refilled since December 1. And it's raining right now, with more rain predicted to continue through Friday.

    • You left out a biggy: 5. Don't punish conservation.

      How do some CA utilities punish water conservation? It goes like this: A. drought hits. B. utility requests conservation. C. Good citizens comply. D. Because utility revenue is proportional to usage, utility has less revenue. E. Utility has to raise rates. F. Good citizen who complied is a chump. He ends up paying more because he did a good deed.

  • The Great Plains States on the verge of some significant water problems [washingtonpost.com].

    The sprawling Ogallala Aquifer in the Great Plains provides freshwater for roughly one-fifth of the wheat, corn, cattle and cotton in the United States. But key parts of the underwater aquifer are being depleted faster than they can be recharged by rain (see map)....

  • by Sergey Kurdakov ( 3652003 ) on Tuesday December 16, 2014 @09:53PM (#48614233)

    Let's exercise how much it might cost to desalinate water

    best current tech to desalinate water is about $0.5 per cubic meter

    11 trillion gallons ~ 42 cubic km of water or 42 billion cubic meters

    thus the sum required is 21 billion dollars.

    given that there are reasons to think that cost might be reduced - the solution looks costly but hardly unmanageable

    • by c ( 8461 ) <beauregardcp@gmail.com> on Wednesday December 17, 2014 @09:55AM (#48616819)

      the solution looks costly but hardly unmanageable

      According to this [mercurynews.com], the largest plant in the country costs about $1 billion and will be able to handle about 50 million gallons per day.

      If you built $21 billion dollars worth of those plants, you get about 1 billion gallons per day of desalination capacity, which would take about 30 years to just to regenerate those 11 trillion gallons, not even considering what's needed to handle existing overconsumption.

      Still manageable, but it's not a good short-term fix.

  • And (Score:5, Interesting)

    by koan ( 80826 ) on Tuesday December 16, 2014 @10:06PM (#48614279)

    New drought maps show groundwater levels across the U.S. Southwest are in the lowest two to 10 percent since 1949.

    The remaining bits, in certain areas, will be poisoned by fracking

    Suddenly this article makes sense.
    http://www.theguardian.com/wor... [theguardian.com]

    The Bush family buys 100,000 acres over one of the World's largest fresh water aquifers.

  • How ENTIRELY coincidental is it that the weatherman here in Sacramento, CA reported yesterday that the storms since December 1 have dumped 10 trillion gallons of water on the Golden State!

    Granted, only about 10% of that has fallen in catchment areas that feed into our many reservoirs and lakes, and rainfall doesn't percolate into the ground water for years - but this is a STUNNING example of the AlGore Effect.

    I'm an agnostic Jew; I'm not certain that God exists. But I _AM_ certain that He has a great sen

  • When I lived in Saudi Arabia (early 1980s) there was talk of towing a few icebergs from the Antarctic into the Red Sea where they would melt and produce fresh water. At least one study claimed this was feasible, given a few large nuclear-powered tugs.

    The US has a number of nuclear-powered naval vessels and a large supply of ice in Alaska. Canada or Russia might provide more. Would something like this work for California?

  • The area of the state of California is 163,696 square miles.

    $ units --verbose
    Currency exchange rates from www.timegenie.com on 2014-04-02
    2866 units, 109 prefixes, 79 nonlinear units

    You have: 11 trillion gallons
    You want: 163696 in mile^2
            11 trillion gallons = 3.8666624 * 163696 in mile^2
            11 trillion gallons = (1 / 0.25862097) * 163696 in mile^2

    I find '4" over the entire state" to be a little bit more manageable than some unscaled number with a bunch of zeros, but maybe it's just me.

    • by mseeger ( 40923 )

      In SI units, (40m^3 for 400.000km^2) it would be easier to calculate ;-).

      The four inch or 10 centimeters are required in the aquifers in southern California.

      First that is about 1/3 of the area. So we go to 30cm or 1 foot. That is still manageable.

      Then we need to take into account that only a small part (optimistic: 25%) goes into the aquifers. That quadrupels it to 4 feet or 120cm. That is quite a lot.

      To take that optimistic assumption, not too much must go into runoff and evaporation. So we need continuous

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