The Light Might Make You Heavy 138
Rambo Tribble writes: "Writing in the American Journal of Epidemiology, researchers have found that sleeping with high ambient light levels may contribute to obesity (abstract). In a survey of 113,000 women, a high correlation was found between higher bedroom light levels and increased propensity to be overweight or obese. Excess light in the sleeping environment has long been known to adversely affect melatonin production and circadian rhythms. It is posited that such an interference with the 'body clock' may be behind these results. Although there is not yet enough evidence to call this a smoking gun, as one researcher put it, 'Overall this study points to the importance of darkness.'"
Just look at Anakin (Score:5, Funny)
Anakin Skywalker spent a lot of time with the dark side and look how much body mass he was able to lose.
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^FTW :)
Purely anecdotaly ... (Score:2)
A darkened room doesn't seem to help much either. :-P
the obesity smoking gun (Score:2)
Sixty-or-so years ago the Vegetable Oil industry told us that butter was giving us heart attacks, that we should avoid as much fat as possible, and that if we had to use fat in our cooking, polyunsaturated vegetable oil was far superior to the saturated fats.
Recently an article was published in one of those medical journals, waving the white flag of surrender in the war against butter, but it's going to take a generation or two before the product liability lawsuits against Big Food will get anywhere.
http:// [swindledandpimped.org]
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People have different bodies, shocker!, different metabolisms, and even different preferences for fuels. Truth is stranger than what your feeble intellect has come up with.
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Citation for your 'common sense' which is actually not true?
People have different bodies, shocker!, different metabolisms, and even different preferences for fuels. Truth is stranger than what your feeble intellect has come up with.
It's simple math. Consume less than you burn. That applies for 95% of the population to manage weight properly, so let's drop the excuses already pointing to metabolism and fuel.
On top of that, proper diet is only HALF of the issue, which most ignorant people feel it is the only thing to focus on.
The other half of the problem is an utter refusal to exercise. Our bodies are machines. They need to be worked properly to maintain proper function. Food is merely the fuel for that activity.
And that has been
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It's simple math. Consume less than you burn.
This idea is simple, pervasive, and wrong. The body's metabolism responds dynamically to the amount of fuel available, and exhortations to "eat less" are not at all helpful to someone who is trying to lose weight.
Our bodies are machines.
Machines require proper fuel, and proper lubricants. Vegetable oil is NOT a proper fuel for warm-blooded bodies. Polyunsaturated vegetable oils suppress the metabolism, shunt carbohydrates to fat production, are not easily burned for energy, and distort the body's hunger signals.
Using vegetable oil
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It's simple math. Consume less than you burn.
This idea is simple, pervasive, and wrong. The body's metabolism responds dynamically to the amount of fuel available, and exhortations to "eat less" are not at all helpful to someone who is trying to lose weight.
Our bodies are machines.
Machines require proper fuel, and proper lubricants. Vegetable oil is NOT a proper fuel for warm-blooded bodies. Polyunsaturated vegetable oils suppress the metabolism, shunt carbohydrates to fat production, are not easily burned for energy, and distort the body's hunger signals.
Using vegetable oil in the human machine is like substituting a random grade of mineral oil for the transmission fluid the manufacturer designed your car to use. Your transmission might work for a while, but I wouldn't expect it to last for long.
I did clarify in my original post that a proper diet is key. I think we both agree that eating shit all day will result in you feeling like shit, and your body acting like shit. I found I could fuel myself with quite a few more calories when you use the right fuel, but that was also combined with good exercise that helps burn it off too. Again, it's both working in unison that creates maximum efficiency.
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BTW, science isn't 'excuses'.
I do whole heartedly agree with the body is a machine and needs to be used. Movement is a key part of the 'design' of the human body, it aids in everything from circulation, breathing, digestion, waste elimination, breakdown of toxins, etc...
If you have any amount of competent control over your body, i.e., able to consciously control autonomous systems, you'll also know that different body configurations require diff
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No, YOU, and other ignorant people, BELIEVE it is simple math.
BTW, science isn't 'excuses'.
I do whole heartedly agree with the body is a machine and needs to be used. Movement is a key part of the 'design' of the human body, it aids in everything from circulation, breathing, digestion, waste elimination, breakdown of toxins, etc...
If you have any amount of competent control over your body, i.e., able to consciously control autonomous systems, you'll also know that different body configurations require different fuels and burn them at different rates.
Yes, and I stand by my argument that 95% of the population thinks that exercise is optional, along with eating right, so the variables don't really matter when you haven't even made it past the first step in fixing ANY machine, regardless of shape or size. Blood pressure, cholesterol, sugar levels, all of these are factors, and for 95% of the population, they can be controlled with good diet.
The body reacts massively to change, which translates to efficiency. Watch what happens to overall efficiency when
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Much easier than 'packing on muscle' is eating the right combinations of food at the right time. Activating the triple-burner in chinese-speak.
What's funny about a lot of people that go to the gym and 'exercise' is that they don't realize that most of the benefits come from using your body properly, not the actual exercises.
If you can do the whole primary series in ashtanga yoga, you can call it a day.
Then again, it wouldn't be very USian to work smarter not ha
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You're one of those gym rats aren't you?
Much easier than 'packing on muscle' is eating the right combinations of food at the right time. Activating the triple-burner in chinese-speak.
What's funny about a lot of people that go to the gym and 'exercise' is that they don't realize that most of the benefits come from using your body properly, not the actual exercises.
If you can do the whole primary series in ashtanga yoga, you can call it a day.
Then again, it wouldn't be very USian to work smarter not harder right? Might makes right after all.
How ironic, as my gym is more often a Yoga studio than not.
Yes, I learned to work smarter while beating my body up with rigorous exercise years ago. Then I found certain exercises (like Yoga) are just as efficient while not beating my body up as bad. Running became cycling and so on.
You tend to become wise to this as your body starts reminding you that engines only last so long, and parts wear out. If you don't accomodate for this, unending pain can be the result, which can be as bad mentally as it is ph
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On top of that, proper diet is only HALF of the issue, which most ignorant people feel it is the only thing to focus on.
The other half of the problem is an utter refusal to exercise. Our bodies are machines. They need to be worked properly to maintain proper function. Food is merely the fuel for that activity.
While I absolutely agree that proper exercise is important to maintain health, I also definitely disagree that exercise contributes to anything near "HALF of the issue" for weight loss.
Exercising vigorously on a daily basis will burn, for most people, a few hundred calories at best, maybe 10-20% of their calorie intake if they're lucky. Running a mile burns roughly 100 calories: you could undo that with one decent sized cookie, or one extra tablespoon of mayonnaise. If you eat a large dessert most days,
Re: the obesity smoking gun (Score:1)
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Consume less than you burn.
That advice will kill people. At a minimum, you need to consume as much as you burn or else in the long run, you will starve... but it does not end there.
The digestion system is not perfect. That implies that the total calorie count actually needs to be higher since you will be excreting some portion of those calories without processing them. This is where it gets tricky, it depends on the bacteria in your gut (and how well you chew!) to fully digest your food.
Your advice concerning exercise is correct. The
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http://www.primermagazine.com/... [primermagazine.com]
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Bullshit. This is not valid for everyone. I guzzle fat stuff all day long. Butter, lard, fat milk, fat cheese, fat meat, fat fish, you name it. Doesn't affect my weight. 141 pounds and 6 feet tall, and on top of that I don't even exercise a lot. I walk about 2 miles a day on average, because I don't own a car, but I also sit in front of a computer 12 hours a day.
Same for my wife, but she walks even less on average, and throughout both her pregnancies she gained 20 pounds tops.
Our "problem" is that we can't
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Just a guess, your kids are going to be very skinny too. =D clearly a product of superior willpower amiright?
(Or, a pair of highly insulin sensitive people?)
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No diabetes in the family.
My father was skinny. Her parents are regular weight (mother) and overweight (father). My mother was a bit overweight.
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Could be that we eat organic food as much as possible, we avoid food additives like the plague, don't know. Fact of the matter is I was stable at 141 pounds (+/-2) for the last 20 years.
This.
Empty calories, additives that fool your body into thinking you're getting enough protein when you're not, and stuffing things with too many carbs and nutritionally deficient ingredients means you end up eating too much, and the cycle perpetuates. Do a raw cleans, and switch to a paleo diet. You'll get more energy and stop gaining weight.
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I forgot to add that we let our bodies tell us what they need. During the last couple months, we both craved radish and green salad, our daily intake went off the scale for a while.
Our son (he's 29 months) doesn't know what chocolate is, nor candy, chips, sweets of any kind except for homemade stuff or organic products such as whole grain biscuits with no sugar. But he eats craploads of fresh fruits and vegetables. Interestingly enough, he developed a healthy lifestyle from a food perspective. If he wants s
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Normal bodies do have some extra fat available. "Some" might mean 10% of total weight, not 50%. I'm at about 8% right now.
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Could be all the animal fat, which satisfies the metabolism better. I eat all the fat off the roast too. And if you can still see the food, there's not enough butter. :D
All sorts of articles here, but ... eh, recent, lots of stuff distilled into one review:
http://www.proteinpower.com/dr... [proteinpower.com]
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You bring up a good point - I do not have a weight problem, maybe because I was clued into the seed oil swindle a dozen years ago. I will put up some pictures.
My mom used vegetable oil in her cooking when I was growing up, but she also used butter and sour cream. We were upper-middle class. Poor people use vegetable oil because it's cheap, and because they don't know any better. My website - about how we are being Swindled and Pimped - is an attempt to correct this state of mass-ignorance.
I knew it! It's those damn blue LEDs! (Score:1)
No, the router does not need to pump 20mA through five blue ultrabrights. I do not need a blinking blue LED to tell me that the monitor is in standby mode. Dim those motherfuckers or, even better, give me an option to turn them off completely.
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No, the router does not need to pump 20mA through five blue ultrabrights. I do not need a blinking blue LED to tell me that the monitor is in standby mode. Dim those motherfuckers or, even better, give me an option to turn them off completely.
As it happens, research strongly suggests that blue light has the greatest impact (intensity and exposure being otherwise equal) of the visible colors. All of them are annoying; but the fad for blue probably makes them even more effective at sleep disruption.
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I know this is anecdotal, but I'm the same way. A red LED isn't that big an issue, but blue or white? Something has to go completely over it for me to get any sleep, and even then, the secondary scatter is still notable.
Greens can be an issue, especially above a certain brightness.
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Re:I knew it! It's those damn blue LEDs! (Score:5, Funny)
Black nail polish.
Or black electrical tape if you don't want to permanently black them out.
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Black electrical tape.
Black nail polish.
Both work great.
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No, the router does not need to pump 20mA through five blue ultrabrights. I do not need a blinking blue LED to tell me that the monitor is in standby mode. Dim those motherfuckers or, even better, give me an option to turn them off completely.
Many suffer of this issue. The home router manufacturers should include a simple front panel toggle switch to turn the LEDs on and off. It would certainly provide extra value for many people and increase their interest to buy the product.
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No, the router does not need to pump 20mA through five blue ultrabrights. I do not need a blinking blue LED to tell me that the monitor is in standby mode. Dim those motherfuckers or, even better, give me an option to turn them off completely.
Many suffer of this issue. The home router manufacturers should include a simple front panel toggle switch to turn the LEDs on and off. It would certainly provide extra value for many people and increase their interest to buy the product.
Or, they could just cut costs and realize that not all of us need shiny blinking lights for every bit of activity flowing through hardware.
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Agreed. I use layers of scotch tape and black permanant marker to dim them, works _ok_ but a damned dimmer would be great.
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No, the router does not need to pump 20mA through five blue ultrabrights. I do not need a blinking blue LED to tell me that the monitor is in standby mode. Dim those motherfuckers or, even better, give me an option to turn them off completely.
Use the option the vendor doesn't provide you.
I too, have an insanely bright array of LEDs on my router. Didn't realize when I bought it how annoying it really is. Put electrical tape over all the LEDs on the router and cable modem. Instant blacked-out hardware. Works like a champ.
Poverty and city living. (Score:2)
Now there is an other possibility.
People who are in poverty tend to live in Cities, and often get the bedrooms which are directly under the light.
Now people in poverty often do not buy healthy food, and because they are stressed from poverty, my not try to eat well.
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$20/week is enough to buy fresh food. With a well stocked larder of cheap staples, grains, rice, beans, etc... sometimes I spend $10.
Of course, absolutely NO prepared crap.
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$50? What are you, rich??
very, but hardly my point...
$20/week is enough to buy fresh food.
For 1 person. Oh and remember the closest store is about 15 miles down the road. As you can not afford to live in the city.
For a family of 4 you can get 500 a month in food stamps if you are under a particular income level.
With a well stocked larder of cheap staples, grains, rice, beans,
You are well prepared and thought it thru. Most people have 0 clue what they are buying and look strictly at the convenience of pre
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these are the healthy foods people are talking about. These are expensive and difficult to keep fresh or carry around if you have to walk or take the bus.
strawman argument is made of straw..
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As long as they avoid fresh cheeses and stick to the aged ones, even lactose intolerant people can eat delicious cheese. Besides, the aged stuff tastes better, especially over bacon fat on whole-grain sourdough rye bread with a dab of dijon or hot mustard. Seriously good eatin'.
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I find deep frying them all keeps them pretty fresh. ;)
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Questionable at best (Score:1, Troll)
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The causes of obesity are a multitude of factors. This article makes an overly simplistic suggestion that sleeping in a darker room will magically help one shed weight
claim of correlation != claim of causation. The article and the researcher were pretty careful on that point.
"But there is not sufficient evidence to know if making your room darker would make any difference to your weight. "There might be other explanations for the association, but the findings are intriguing enough to warrant further scientific investigation."
Re:Questionable at best (Score:5, Informative)
This article makes an overly simplistic suggestion that sleeping in a darker room will magically help one shed weight.
[Citation needed]
I read TFA and the the abstract to the actual study, and at no point do I see a "suggestion that sleeping in a darker room will magically help one shed weight."
To the contrary, from TFA: "[The researchers] caution there is not enough evidence to advise people to buy thicker curtains or turn off lights." AND "[T]here is not sufficient evidence to know if making your room darker would make any difference to your weight." AND " Dr Matthew Lam, from the charity, commented: 'It's too early to suggest that sleeping in the dark will help prevent obesity, a known risk factor for breast cancer, but the association is certainly interesting.' "
About the closest TFA comes to what you said is: "Prof Derk-Jan Dijk, from the Surrey Sleep Centre, said there would be no harm in trying to make bedrooms darker."
In other words, TFA includes at least THREE explicit disclaimers saying the exact opposite of what you said it suggested, and one suggestion that "Well, it probably wouldn't hurt..."
As someone that has lost over a hundred pounds, I'll tell you this: it is making good food choices, counting calories, and getting physical activity.
Of course. But if you are better rested, for example, there's less chance that fatigue will live to poor judgment, stress, depression, etc., all of which are known to contribute to obesity. Sure, ultimately what you say is true, but that doesn't mean that changing some other environmental factor might not make it easier to make good food choices, count calories, exercise, etc.
Certainly adequate rest is helpful but there is no credible study to suggest that someone that is doing these things yet doesn't get enough sleep is obese.
Well, if you actually read the linked abstract, you'd see there actually ARE animal studies suggesting precisely this in the second sentence: "In animal studies, there is convincing evidence that light exposure causes weight gain, even when calorie intake and physical activity are held constant."
So, this study is a human study suggesting something that has already been found in animal studies. As the researchers point out, they controlled for a lot of confounding factors, but there might be others -- nevertheless, as they say, it seems like enough evidence to justify further research.
As you say, "The causes of obesity are a multitude of factors" -- why do you insist on arguing so strenuously against the possibility that this might be one factor, even if a minor one?
Not heavy but... (Score:1)
Not heavy...just "Big Boned"
What's that old saw? (Score:1)
Correlation == Causation?
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We are humbled before you.
As well you should be!
=_
Depending on your chemistry (Score:2)
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I'm boned... (Score:2)
(big boned that is... ha! I kill me!)
How much is too much light?!
I've got a green LED clock and a TV with a red LED that's on when it's off. Once my eyes adjust I can see most of my bedroom FINE... especially when the moon is out and shining through my blinds...
So... the moon makes me fat?!
Or is this along the same kind of logic that because it weighs as much as a duck it's a witch...
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It's a correlation, which is not the same as showing that there is cause leading to effect.
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eh, not so sure (Score:5, Insightful)
This seems like a confusion of symptom and actual cause, when the root issue may be simply a lack of good sleep (for whatever reason).
Our eyelids are not opaque, they definitely allow ambient light levels through. This would imply that perhaps sleeping with high ambient light, it's just harder to get good solid rest.
I guess you could test this by checking brainwaves of people sleeping in the dark, and sleeping with bright lights on, and seeing if there's a difference in the 'depth' of sleep they reach.
Pro tip (Score:2)
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Honeycombs with a sunblocker side to it.
Good insulation, and light only leaks around the edges.
Bullshit (Score:2)
...There's just no way that this holds up. Watch and see.
Read that book... (Score:2)
The Unbearable Lightness of Being
Or... (Score:2)
Perhaps larger people are more likely to sleep with a large TV on in their bedroom?
Opposite for me (Score:2)
Then i got a new girlfriend, who prefers to sleep with the lights off. Since then i've gained 25 lbs.
Yeah yeah, correlation is not causation, and anecdote is not evidence. And in this case the difference in weight is presumably due to going out to dinner with her more and going out to exercise by myself less. (I'm working on trying to change that now, but progress is slow =P)
But in my in
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Given how quickly and deeply i can fall asleep under various circumstance
Discovery solves a related mystery (Score:4, Funny)
This breakthrough finding also explains why photography adds 10 pounds [petapixel.com] to its subjects. Flash photography, probably even more.
The fridge's light does (Score:1)
Last week, I spent an hour eating left-over fried chicken right from the fridge and the light made me fat. It's true.
Not to put too fine a point on it... (Score:2)
Previously: What's Causing the Rise In Obesity? (Score:2)
That might help explain why there is an ongoing cross-species obesity epidemic.
http://science-beta.slashdot.o... [slashdot.org]
Literally (Score:1)
you've got to be kidding me (Score:1)
Yeeeeeeeah, that smoking gun is something called potential chemical energy. It was discovered at least 100 years ago, maybe more. It states that complex molecules can be broken down and release energy when they do so. That energy can be measures in calories. All mass takes energy to stop and start movement so if your body's atoms take less energy to move as a grand total than the potential chemical energy you eat, you will gain weight.
Back in the old days... (Score:1)
Whenever I hear this I think to myself...
What about our ancestors sleeping around a fire? Didn't that put out light?
Without artificial lights from our cities today, star light and moon light is actually very bright. Did that affect our ancestors?
But, but, but... (Score:1)
If I don't leave the lights on when I go to bed, how will I see my way to the refrigerator at 3:00 am?
Correlation != causation (Score:1)
"a high correlation was found between higher bedroom light levels and increased propensity to be overweight or obese" - correlation.
"The Light Might Make You Heavy" - causation.
Dammit guys. -_-
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This just proves that... (Score:1)
Re:Or maybe, you know... (Score:5, Interesting)
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Blue LEDs correlate with evil.
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adjustment for potential confounders such as sleep duration, alcohol intake, physical activity, and current smoking
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Or living in a light-polluted environment is correlated with poverty, and poverty is a predictor of obesity due to the kids of food you access when poor.
Re:Or maybe, you know... (Score:4, Funny)
It doesn't work, but I do get a better sleep. ;-)
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Yes, because a lack of sleep is the #1 reason why people don't exercise and eat right.
Give me a break.
Yeah, because it has to be the #1 reason for there to be a correlation.
Give ME a break.
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Alright, alright [cargocollective.com]!
Re:Or maybe, you know... (Score:5, Insightful)
Yes, because a lack of sleep is the #1 reason why people don't exercise and eat right.
Give me a break.
Maybe it's not the #1 reason, but why couldn't it be a significant reason that we might consider?
People who don't sleep enough or don't get enough "restful" sleep often have all sorts of problems -- increased stress, difficulty in learning and retaining information, impaired judgment -- and it's correlated with all sorts of things from depression to various chronic health problems. If the lack of sleep itself can't lead to obesity, surely some set of these factors (some of which are known to correlate with obesity, like stress and depression) can contribute to it.
Next up, the new diet craze for lazy people. Blackout blinds.
I get you don't think this is useful, but why do you have to make stupid remarks? Obviously obesity rates have been rising significantly in the past few decades. There are a number of fairly obvious likely causes for this trend, but there may be many minor ones that have changed in recent decades that could be contributing -- like, for example, the amount of "light pollution" these days, which probably contributes to ambient light in bedrooms (along with decreased numbers of people in rural areas where light pollution is scarce), coupled with increased tendencies to leave various electronic devices on all the time.
Who cares if it's the "#1 reason why people don't exercise and eat right"? If it's in the top 20, it can probably be helpful to know it, and for some people, it could actually be leading to other health problems, including obesity.
I know there's this common assumption that diet and exercise is only about willpower, but the reality of life is that there are all sorts of psychological and physical factors which can make it easier or harder to pursue healthy habits. And being exhausted a lot of the time is not generally conducive to such habits. Obviously for many people blackout blinds are not the magic ticket to a thin body -- but combined with some other things, better rest could make it easier for some people to live in a more healthy manner.
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Also many heavy people have un-diagnosed sleep apnea, which makes it even harder/impossible to get proper restful sleep.
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Next up, the new diet craze for lazy people. Blackout blinds.
I get you don't think this is useful, but why do you have to make stupid remarks? Obviously obesity rates have been rising significantly in the past few decades. There are a number of fairly obvious likely causes for this trend, but there may be many minor ones that have changed in recent decades that could be contributing -- like, for example, the amount of "light pollution" these days, which probably contributes to ambient light in bedrooms (along with decreased numbers of people in rural areas where light pollution is scarce), coupled with increased tendencies to leave various electronic devices on all the time.
Who cares if it's the "#1 reason why people don't exercise and eat right"? If it's in the top 20, it can probably be helpful to know it, and for some people, it could actually be leading to other health problems, including obesity.
I know there's this common assumption that diet and exercise is only about willpower, but the reality of life is that there are all sorts of psychological and physical factors which can make it easier or harder to pursue healthy habits. And being exhausted a lot of the time is not generally conducive to such habits. Obviously for many people blackout blinds are not the magic ticket to a thin body -- but combined with some other things, better rest could make it easier for some people to live in a more healthy manner.
You and the moderators are being too hard on the GP. It's disappointing to see posts marked as flamebait just because they are not written daintily enough.
The GP is saying that we need to stop looking for weak feel-good correlations and start dealing with the major factors! If you eat 2500 calories a day and only burn 1500 then you are eventually going to be obese.
It's commonly accepted that the cheap availability of high-calorie, empty-calorie diets is the major contributor to the obesity epidemic. I me
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Well, it can affect things.
For one, about the only time good for me to hit the gym and exercise is EARLY in the morning. If I don't sleep well that night, I can't get up and work out and then to work on only 4 hours sleep. If I sleep 4 hours, and wake up, toss and turn till 6amâ¦I don't feel like hitting the gym and will try to crash till 7:30 or so to get a bit more sleep before having to get up and run to wor
Need TV to sleep. (Score:2)
I do best, falling asleep to the TV being on. I used to have a regular tv that had a timer, which would turn itself off and cut the ambient light.
Now, I have a 27" computer monitor which is my "TV", and it doesn't have a built in timerâ¦so, it stays on all night, even when the DVR cuts off on Uverse, it has a blue screensaver light which I think affects me.
I guess I need to find a wall timer and hook it to the monito
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or you cant sleep because theres a 1000 lumen bulb right outside your window, so wake up and eat in the middle of the night.
Then the HOA outlaws dark curtains to block it
There should be laws preventing all this outdoor lighting, it really pisses me off and hurts my quality of life
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The odds of obesity, measured using body mass index, waist:hip ratio, waist:height ratio, and waist circumference, increased with increasing levels of LAN exposure (P even after adjustment for potential confounders such as sleep duration, alcohol intake, physical activity, and current smoking. We found a significant association between LAN exposure and obesity which was not explained by potential confounders we could measure.
So there's the various factors they accounted for in their calculation. If you want more "correlation/causation and all that", the data used was from the Breakthrough Generations Study [breakthrou...ons.org.uk]. Feel free to apply for the study data [breakthrou...ons.org.uk] and perform any extra analysis that you feel might be required.
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Oblig XKCD (Score:2)
http://xkcd.com/552/ [xkcd.com]
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