Nitrogen Fixing Bacteria That Can Colonize Most Plants Discovered 187
Zothecula writes "Synthetic crop fertilizers are a huge source of pollution. This is particularly true when they're washed from fields (or leach out of them) and enter our waterways. Unfortunately, most commercial crops need the fertilizer, because it provides the nitrogen that they require to survive. Now, however, a scientist at the University of Nottingham has developed what he claims is an environmentally-friendly process, that allows virtually any type of plant to obtain naturally-occurring nitrogen directly from the atmosphere."
The process involves injecting a bacteria that colonizes the plant and fixes atmospheric nitrogen in exchange for a bit of sugar, similar to soybeans. Only this bacteria will readily colonize most any plant.
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Azotic Technologies
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We're screwed.
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GMO, Devil, Evil, Bad, KILLING HUMANITY!!! Organic Only!!!!!!!!
Oh, but this was discovered in Europe, or at least England, so its ok. No problem.
Unless or until its licensed exclusively by Monsanto, then, EVIL AGAIN!
Re:Quick! (Score:4, Interesting)
What if this thing gets out of hand and plants start to become larger as they are fed more nitrogen. We could become overrun with weed type plants that we can't control. Almost everything has unintended consequences. From the laws made in Congress to the modification of plants.
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Weed Whackers and mowers will still work.
World Food shortage solved.
Bigger healthier plants consume more CO2.
Worlds problems solved... hugs and kisses all around.
And besides this was discovered in Europe [nottingham.ac.uk], so its automatically safe. (/snort).
Re:Quick! (Score:4, Insightful)
Oh god, we already are! (It's called grass.)
A little more seriously, they're doing field trials now, so we'll probably know soon enough.
As far as I can tell, the process is clumsy enough (the seeds have to be pre-impregnated in the lab with the bacteria) that this is a rather small risk.
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Oh, sure. What could possibly go wrong?
foresting sahara? 10 feet tigers are a small price to pay for that!
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foresting sahara? 10 feet tigers are a small price to pay for that!
Are you insane? Man, tigers are bad enough with only 4 feet! Imagine the carnage they might wreak with an extra 6 feet. No, I fear 10 feet tigers are far too high a price to pay regardless of the benefits.
Re:Quick! (Score:5, Funny)
No problem, we'll just dock the stings and then sit back to watch the free light show in the sky.
Did it just get dark in here?
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Triffids!
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Sea water.
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so we're obsolete (Score:5, Funny)
Animals are now obsolete. The plants can kill us off now, watch our for your cucumbers and geraniums.
Triffids (Score:3)
The plants can kill us off now, watch our for your cucumbers and geraniums.
It's the triffids you really need to be careful of.
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Yes. Humanity is a way for wheat to make more of itself. Why without those bipedal, hairless apes to clear nice, fertile areas of land it would just go the way of the Dodo.
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My 'O' level biology teach claimed that many years ago. Looked a good argument right up until I pointed out that the geraniums in the labs that he claimed required no animals would be the last geraniums in the world if all the animals died tomorrow. Hint they need insects to pollinate and reproduce.
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Axel Pressbutton. Comic book. He was half eaten by plants, including his junk. No he gets off by having his 'button pressed' and hates all plants.
Green apocalypse (Score:2, Troll)
With a bacteria that can infect plants and cause them to suck nitrogen out of the air... let out of control on a large scale, this may affect the world in a drastic way, much like how the first oxygen producing microbes first appeared on earth.
Re:Green apocalypse (Score:5, Informative)
Hardly -- you're overestimating the role of land plants in the ecosystem. Most nitrogen fixation is done by cyanobacteria in the oceans.
Also, nitrogen fixation hasn't led to a depletion of nitrogen in the atmosphere, because there are whole families of denitrifying bacteria that make a living reducing nitrate back to N2 (a process which is much easier than going the other way).
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Define "ridiculously expensive" please. I routinely fill sixteen of those 5 ft tall nitrogen bottles. It takes about three hours to fill the pack up. Some days, it might take as much as six hours - but that is about 4 times faster than we use the stuff, so it's still cool.
http://www.balstonfilters.com/nitrogen_systems.html?utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=nitrogen%20generator&utm_content=Nitrogen%2BGenerators&utm_campaign=BF-Nit.%2BGenerators-Local&ex=9v32bx-13c8k9q-1y4hlm [balstonfilters.com]
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Re:Green apocalypse (Score:5, Informative)
This is a key part of permaculture, using plants that establish such relationships to build soil mass. Members of the legume family, peas and beans, already do this. So do trees like Russian Olive. These plants are capable of demonstrating "weedy" like behavior in that they can land in places that have nothing, establish a toe hold and grow and build soil as they die over generations. So, if you're an environmentalist who is horrified that "icky algae" is being displaced by something new, you might hate these types of plants, but really, they are pioneering plants that build fertility. I spent a lot of time researching what types of plants with these characteristics would grow in my local area because I'm interested in building a "Food Forest". Look up some of Geoff Lawton's videos on the subject, it's fascinating stuff.
The idea that something like this is a threat is kind of laughable. It would be an incredible boon. People are already purchasing bacteria and rubbing it into their seeds to give them a good start, but the bacteria only form the necessary symbiotic relationship on a small selection of plants.
I'll be sharing this with some of the folks at the local community farm I'm involved with who know more about the subject than I and see what they make of it, that's for sure...
I read it as they can "colonize most planets" (Score:5, Interesting)
Massive let down when I realized it wasn't a breakthrough in terraforming! :((((
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I was just gonna say the same thing! Also the headline says 'discovered', the summary says 'developed'...I thought this was possible 'Earth life was seeded from another planet!' stuff. I mean why else say 'colonize most planets' instead of 'extremophile' or something? Such a letdown!
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What could possibly go wrong? (Score:4, Insightful)
May as well keep spraying artificial fertilizers, at least we know how that degrades the soil.
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What could go wrong is massive dead zones [sciencedaily.com] from fertilizer use. This doesn't have to be perfect, just better. Biological agriculture is the future.
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That's exactly what I was getting at. There are already problems with fertilizer use. New ways of utilizing nitrogen fixing bacteria could provide a superior alternative, or at least cut the need for fertilizers.
Re:What could possibly go wrong? (Score:5, Insightful)
Exactly.
Because its not the nitrogen fixing that is the problem, its all the other side effects of artificial fertilization that we could avoid.
As it is, some crop land gets planted in clover or alfalfa once in a while to fix nitrogen in the soil.
By the way Alfalfa [wikipedia.org] already fixes nitrogen with the help of a bacteria:
Like other legumes, its root nodules contain bacteria, Sinorhizobium meliloti, with the ability to fix nitrogen, producing a high-protein feed regardless of available nitrogen in the soil.[17] Its nitrogen-fixing ability (which increases soil nitrogen) and its use as an animal feed greatly improve agricultural efficiency.
So this discovery is actually nothing new, just a more versatile strain of bacteria.
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Around here Soybeans are used much more than Alfalfa, but according to this [usda.gov] paper they should be doing corn soybean and alfalfa in rotation, it returns $245 per acre on average versus $95 per acre for just corn/soybean.
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But what if the bacteria act locally on every single stalk of grain produced? The thing about nitrogen fixing bacteria in the wild is that they don't accompany every single plant in a field.
I think that there is a good chance that this will be an improvement over chemical fertilizers and welcome more resarch in this area, but don't automatically assume that it's safe just because it's natural.
Re:What could possibly go wrong? (Score:4, Informative)
Farmers would never waste money on fertilizer that just gets washed away.
It really isn't a flat out waste so much as an inefficiency. The more fertilizer you use, the higher your yield, but the lower the fertilizer uptake rate of the plant. To use a simplified example, if you apply a kilogram of fertilizer, a group of plants might take up .5kg, but if you apply 2kg, the plants might only uptake .9kg, which means that the plants are getting more nutrients overall but are using a smaller portion of what is applied as the applied amount rises.. Of course farmers don't spend time and money they don't have to on unnecessary fertilizer, it is just that efficiency drops as usage increases, which is why nutrient use efficiency research is important.
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Look at that. Amdahl's law applies to plants!
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Re:What could possibly go wrong? (Score:4, Interesting)
I'm sure you're joking.
But just in case you're not, read the terrifying account of Klebsiella planticola [mst.edu].
Had they just released it to see what would happen, we might all be starving to death right now.
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Bacteria are naturally genetically modified organisms due to their routine ability to swap genetic material with complete different bacteria species. If it were that easy and advantageous to kill most plants on Earth, some bacteria would have figured it out by now.
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You left out a step in the middle. It's called a MOOC. That's where you learn things you didn't used to know. Everything one doesn't understand has unknown long term effects and hence is unsustainable.
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Seriously? What's wrong with using nitrogen fixing plants to fill the soil with nitrogen?
Clover coil sickness, for one thing.
Clover disease if you feed to much of it to your livestock.
Inefficient use of land leading to more land needed to feed a given population.
Not that it is a no-go, but it is not a panacea either.
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How do you know it's not sustainable ?
Not knowing the future has nothing to do with sustainable agriculture.
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because fixing nitrogen into soil via crop plants is more productive than fixing it via non-crop plants and having to wait a year.
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Unless you want to repurpose a substantial amount of the workforce back into agriculture, dramatically increase land for farming (terraforming, bulldozing houses or chopping down forests are your only choices), dramatically raise the price of food,etc. Most farmers do use crop rotation and other sustainable tricks, but also use chemical fertilizers and other "nonsustainable" choices. You do realize that the majority of chemical fertiliz
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Except sustainable practices alone won't feed everyone on the planet.
Most farmers do use crop rotation and other sustainable tricks, but also use chemical fertilizers and other "nonsustainable" choices.
Hopefully farming practices continue to advance. But the organic only, "sustainable" only, no GMO, etc crowd tends not to want to advance farming, but take it back to yeoman level tech. Which is not sustainable unless you dramatically decrease the number of humans on the planet.
Perhaps you don't know what sustainable means. If you are not using sustainable practices then you will not be able to continue to grow food. Non-sustainable means you cannot continue the same process. If you run out of ways to grow food because you used up all the resources in the soil then the price of food will get very expensive and many people will starve to death.
Great, now what about phosphorous? (Score:5, Interesting)
Plants need phosphorous almost as much as they need nitrogen. Currently, we're using mined sources of phosphorous as fertilizer--and there is a finite supply of really good phosphorous sources.
Potassium (the third major plant nutrient) we can extract from seawater without any problems, but the seawater concentration of phosphorous is much lower.
So what do we do about phosphorous?
--PeterM
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Well we can start by getting rid of cemetaries and graveyards, and stop cremating people. Definitely stop embalming them. Dead animal bodies are an excellent source of phosphorus as well as many other fertilizers, and lots of people die every single day.
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Wasn't that mentioned in "Brave New World". Didn't they have special filters on the chimneys at the crematoria for capturing the phosphorous and calcium for fertilizer?
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Sound more like a F451 thing than BNW... I may well be wrong though
I'm in the middle of reading it and the OP is right, they removed the phosphorus from cremated bodies for fertilizer in Brave New World.
I remember a lot from the book and movie, but not that detail.
Maybe the Ministry of Truth got to your copy and put that part of the book in a memory hole?
Re:Great, now what about phosphorous? (Score:5, Interesting)
I remember reading "Life's Bottleneck" by Issac Asimov. He calculates that if life expands and uses the elements in the entire crust of the earth, the phosphorus will be exhausted first, before carbon, nitrogen, or even trace elements like iodine and selenium. Phosphorus is life's bottleneck.
But there is a big difference between fertilizing with phosphorus and nitrogen. You only need to add phosphorus once, and then only enough annually to replace what is taken out with the crop, which is usually not much. It is a permanent addition to the soil. But the nitrogen is consumed and returned to the atmosphere as the plants grow and then decay. You need to replenish it every year, either with fertilizer or legumes.
Is cremation a problem? (Score:3)
Well we can start by getting rid of cemetaries and graveyards, and stop cremating people.
Um... apropos of nothing, how does cremation affect the phosphorus content?
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The fact is we have s
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I prefer: Chopped then frozen into manageable blocks. Then taken deep sea fishing and used as chum while my friends drink, talk shit about me and fish.
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I just hope nobody pulls my junk out of the ocean on a hook.
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I'm _pretty_ sure that we could devise a safe way to extract phosphorous from dead bodies. Maybe science wasn't up to that task when we "evolved", but it certainly is by now.
Also, we "evolved" bathing in our drinking water supply.
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So what do we do about phosphorous?
Start looking for a solution...?
Are you seriously suggesting we don't do this because it only removes one of the three ingredients of artificial fertilizer?
Phosporous - Dynamic Accumulators (Score:2)
Make use of the phosphorous that is already present in deeper soils. Plant dynamic accumulators that cycle nutrients such as phosphorous from their roots to their surface as companion plants to your crops.
Check out the dynamic accumulator list in the following:
http://www.nsfarming.com/Media/KOURICK_Soil_Indicators_86.pdf [nsfarming.com]
Another option: include bird-attracting plants or feeders. Their manure is rich in many nutrients, including phosphorous.
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The end of nitrogen fertilizer? Fewer bombs? (Score:2)
If no plant needs nitrogen fertilizer, does this mean that we can stop producing ammonium nitrate and other nitrates in huge quantities, many of which can be used to make explosives?
Does this mean we could realistically reduce the availability of now-common bomb-making materials?
--PeterM
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No, that's a silly reason to ban anything, because most anything can be used to make an explosive quite easily and trivially. Look around, your cotton or hemp or silk or synthentic clothing; plastics; wood products; metals like iron, aluminum, copper, zinc, lead, graphite; the various basic chemicals like soap, window wash, drain opener; the acidic things like car battery acid, vinegar, muriatic acid; the "chlorine" powder for your swimming pool; hydrocarbons from paraffin to coal to liquid fuels and h
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Yes, but can you buy all of that stuff in really large quantities without making people suspicious? And I doubt any of them are really as simple+effective+safe as your nitrogen-based explosives.
--PM
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what makes you think anything needs to be bought? you missed the point totally. reagents can't be banned because they're everywhere in abundant supply. for example, you mentioned the nitrogen-based explosives. The road to those can start with a barrel of piss
three BILLION pounds (Score:5, Informative)
You know why you can't take liquids on airplanes? Hydrogen peroxide and nail polish remover. If you mix the two correctly, you get a VERY powerful explosive . (If you mix them incorrectly you get dead. Don't try it. It's a great explosive for SUICIDE bombers.)
Another frequently used and powerful explosive is aluminium powder. Yep, ground up tinfoil. Don't try that at home either, it might blow up while you're grinding it. Adding Parlon can help. Parlon is also known as Saran Wrap.
Grind up ping pong balls, that modern gunpowder, called smokeless powder.
So you see, to make any progress by banning stuff you would need to ban half the stuff in the grocery store. Oh, and don't forget to ban livestock, so everyone would have to be vegetarian. ( remember, where animals piss, potassium nitrate crystallizes.)
Now all we need is a bazillion immigrant labourers (Score:3)
Now all we need is a bazillion immigrant labourers to run around the fields with syringes injecting plants.
Let me know if they ever figure out how to apply this bacteria to seed before planting or spraying after sprouting. Then they'll have something worth talking about.
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Insects.
Specifically, you release sap sucking insects that like to stuff their sharp little noses deep into the tissues of green plants already, such as aphids.
Cross the nitrogen fixating bacteria with wolbachia parasite, so that it can live in both hosts, and watch the plants take over.
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For those too lazy:
Wolbachia is a genus of parasitical/symbiotic micro-organisms that infect arthropods, including most insects [wikipedia.org]
Many species of insect that have intimate contact with plants and plant juices harbor this parasite. including aphids [asm.org]
Now, asking if that is "a good idea" or not? That's an entirely different question!
Re:Now all we need is a bazillion immigrant labour (Score:5, Informative)
Let me know if they ever figure out how to apply this bacteria to seed before planting or spraying after sprouting. Then they'll have something worth talking about.
Er, that's exactly what is disussed in TFA:
"The process that Cocking developed, based on his discovery, is known as N-Fix. It involves covering seeds in a non-toxic coating that contains the bacterium. As a seed sprouts and the plant grows, the bacterium enters through its roots, and ultimately ends up in every cell of the plant. This means that every one of those cells is capable of fixing nitrogen from the atmosphere – just like sugarcane does."
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I didn't even *skim* the article. :P
Could be a revolution, could be a fizzle (Score:5, Interesting)
If the claims are true (60% of a plant's nitrogen requirements, adaptable to most crops), this is absolutely huge. All the research on how legumes manage their symbiotic organisms seemed to point to a long, hard slog in adapting nitrogen fixation to other crops, and now here it is from a naturally occurring organism.
But before I break out the champagne, I'm going to ask whereisthefuckingpaper?
Potential Dangerous Footing? (Score:2)
If the ground gets all full of nitrogen, won't we just sink into it?
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What? Is this a troll comment?
Okay, key point: the form of Nitrogen that we're talking about generating here is not the gaseous sort. It's "fixed" nitrogen which I believe is mostly in the form of ammonia. Urea, commonly found in various animal feces, is also a convenient source widely used by the agricultural industry. It is also generated by bacteria but under different circumstances. (In your butt and/or intestines depending on how childish you want to be...)
Nitrogen is also the most abundant component o
Which planets, exactly? (Score:4, Funny)
There are only four known objects with nitrogen atmospheres: Earth (already terraformed by microbes), Titan (surface temperature -220 C), Triton and Pluto (surface pressure ~10 microbars). The only two terraforming targets are Mars and (at a stretch) Venus, both of which have almost zero nitrogen in their atmospheres.
This is either a critical research failure, or hyping up a somewhat boring discovery to a more exciting one, or both.
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While I too read "planets" at first glance after the context of "colonize", this is about plants, not planets.
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According to my sig, you'd get a gold metal. :)
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Or better yet, we should just skip the title and base our discussion on the submission's category icon.
That might make moderating/meta-moderating a bit easier, at least we would have less variance in the results.
There is no such thing as a free lunch. (Score:2)
The bacteria gets its energy from sugar in the plant. How much sugar? How much does it decrease the plant's yield.
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I've had a free lunch before.
The Celery Stalks at Midnight (Score:2)
Does the bacteria know... (Score:2)
...that we have an interest in the plant?
This is potentially huge (Score:4, Interesting)
Invasive species (Score:2)
Okay, I'll be the first to ask:
How is the dispersion of these bacteria controlled? Will the bacteria spread to other plants, such as weeds? Will they be spread by air-borne reproductive means? (Not that food crops use dandelions tufts, but you know what I mean - pollen or seeds blown around by the wind.)
Will these be the 3-d equivalent of Bolivian Tree Lizards [youtube.com]?
I'm all for scientific progress and not a big fan of Jeremy Rifkin [wikipedia.org], but he serves an important purpose by voicing concerns and making people stop to
I swear I read it as "planet" and not "plant" (Score:2)
So when do we start terraforming?
Oh, PLANT, not PLANET. (Score:2)
Now I'm all disappointed and stuff.
Endosymbiosis? (Score:3)
According to the article, the bacteria will live within the plant's cells. This is certainly possible (such endosymbiosis was the origin of mitochondria and chloroplasts) but I do wonder whether it is really the case here, or if the reporter made an error.
If it does work as well as claimed (I'm always a bit skeptical about these 'amazing new tech' claims) then expect a whole lot of effort to go into breeding new plant varieties that get the most out of their new symbiont.
Nitrogen-fixing bacteria, not nitrogen fixing... (Score:2)
It is BACTERIA that fixes nitrogen.
NOT NITROGEN that fixes bacteria.
Are there any editors around?
Is this actually new? (Score:3)
Permaculture Already Does This (Score:2)
We don't need to develop this in a lab. It is already being done in many plants and used as a strategy for sustainable soil development.
Here's how:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMQ8eSm92xQ [youtube.com]
I for one... (Score:2)
This is great news! Until the bacteria evolve to colonize humans!
I, for one, welcome our new nitrogen fixing overlords.
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Surface area of a sphere 4*pi*r^2, so for the earth that comes to 5.10e14 square metres. The pressure at the surface on average is 1.01325e5 Pa. Using the fact that pressure is force time area, and that force is mass time acceleration, then the mass of a one square meter of the earths atmosphere assuming acceleration due to gravity is 9.8m/s^2 is 1.033e5 kg. That makes the mass of the atmosphere 5.268e15 metric tones, at 78% nitrogen that makes ~4113 trillion metric tonnes of nitrogen.
For comparison the wor