Rare 'Annular Solar Eclipse' Tonight 116
New submitter Trubacca writes "The Northern-Pacific "Ring of Fire" has an opportunity tonight to observe an entirely different "ring of fire": an annular solar eclipse where the moon, owing to its distance from the Earth, seems smaller than the apparent diameter of the sun. This results in the fiery ring for which the phenomenon takes its name. Space.com has a decent write-up on the path of the eclipse, times, and tips for safe-viewing."
Grammar police (Score:3, Insightful)
Its. Learn it, love it, live it and spell it CORRECTLY.
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Since we're being grammar police, that is not a grocer's apostrophe. A grocer's apostrophe is an apostrophe on plural nouns ending in the letter s. The OP's mistake is an equally common phenomenon but I don't know of any pedantic name for it.
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Its. Learn it, love it, live it and spell it CORRECTLY.
Heh.. guilty as charged. Allow me to beg for forgiveness, it was a first-time submission newbie-error.. We tend to learn more from our mistakes than our successes, especially when it is made on the internet in front of millions of people ;-) I spent my review time fixing the capitalization, which I probably got wrong anyway.
Need not begging (Score:1)
English today is so mixed up that who's to say which version of English _is_ the correct one?
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... who's to say which version of English _is_ the correct one?
To the casual observer, the answer to this question seems to be "Pretty much everyone." ;-)
In English, "correct" generally means "whatever silly 'rules' someone has taught me". We have no official standards body for the language, after all, which you'd think would mean that there is no such thing as "standard English". But the reality is that anyone and everyone feels not just permitted, but required to make up rules about the language and criticise others for violating them.
Historically, most of th
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Historically, most of the well-known rules for English seem to have originated as Latin rules, imposed on English by people who thought that Latin was the perfect language, and any language that worked even slightly differently was wrong, wrong, wrong. But lately, we've heard from people who seem to have just made up rules, and critcised people who weren't even violating them. Thus, we have the common advice that "passive" is wrong, but it's clear that most people who criticise its use have no idea what "passive voice" even means.
"English follows other languages into dark alleys, beats them up for their words and goes through their pockets for loose vocabulary." -- variously attributed
Anyone have any idea how many languages English has taken words from? Spelling rules in English are mind-bogglingly complicated because they include sub-orthographies for pretty much every one of those languages, some based on standard transliterations, others maybe kind of sort of quasi-phonetic, still others whatever worked for the first batch from
Re:Grammar police (Score:5, Funny)
There, Their, They're, it'll all be better in the morning
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Its. Learn it, love it, live it, and spell it CORRECTLY.
FTFY: You were missing the serial (or Oxford) comma in your sentence.
A bit late don't you think? (Score:1)
The eclipse is basically over. Here in China it's arriving just after dawn and isn't going to be headed more than a thousand miles to the west of hear. In other words, this would have been useful information yesterday or the day before, but right now it's already passed pretty much everybody posting here.
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It doesn't start in the US for a few hours.
If you care about viewing astronomical events, you may want to find a more reliable space information source than /. (like an astronomy magazine).
Also, you can't view this eclipse without eye protection.
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Sure you can, I did just that earlier today. That advice assumes that the sun isn't being obstructed by clouds or heavy cloud cover. There's no actual difference between clouds and glass blocking out most of the light. I was able to view it just fine with no eye protection and no squinting, and not even the after image that you would get if you looked directly at a light bulb.
And last I checked, the sun rises in the east and sets in the west, which means that Asia is at the tail end of observing things rather than the beginning. Unless of course there's a secondary eclipse that I'm not aware of that happens tonight as well. But, I saw one this morning in China and I doubt very much that there's going to be another one tomorrow.
You, sir, are wrong on both points.
Enjoy your eye damage... your retina has no pain receptors and clouds selectively block different wavelengths. Check out the UV part of the water absorption (I should say transmission) spectrum!
Re:A bit late don't you think? (Score:5, Informative)
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this would have been useful information yesterday or the day before,.
Totally agree
Just a few days notice and I'd of gone camping this weekend. Lake Almanor California,
looks to be in the path of totality and only 450 miles from me. (NASA's PDF doesn't download).
Too bad.
I have seen one total eclipse as it passed overhead. Went to a local hill to watch it
then late to work. It was grand, got to see a few prominences through the telescope.
Like to of seen this one as well.
On the bright side, this is one article not likely to be duplicated.
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I first heard about it at least 6 months ago*. I've seen 2 or 3 stories about it in the past 2 weeks. Ya just got to pay a little attention to hear about these things.
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Totality? You do realize that this is an Annular Eclipse and not a Total Eclipse right? The Moon is too far away to completely block out the sun this time.
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Perhaps he's taking a ladder.
Jeez, am I the only one with a brain round here?
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ah, shoot! "path of totality" is a common phrase related to an eclipse, except this type
Yes I type it out of a grammar habit, for the middle line in this picture
Map of U.S. from link (path of eclipse)
http://i.space.com/images/i/17171/i02/annular-solar-eclipse-may20-2012-us.JPG?1336084354 [space.com]
My bad...
When can i see it? (Score:2)
Re:When can i see it? (Score:4, Informative)
http://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/solar/2012-may-20 [timeanddate.com] is a nice resource.
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Re:NUKE the SUN! (Score:5, Funny)
If every country on Earth fired all of their nukes into the sun, what would be the reaction?
Depends where you are; Earth would have no nukes, the Sun would have an overflow of fucks not given.
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If every country on Earth fired all of their nukes into the sun, what would be the reaction?
The first problem would be finding a way to give all those ballistic nukes the ability to achieve escape velocity...
Re:NUKE the SUN! (Score:4, Informative)
If every country on Earth fired all of their nukes into the sun, what would be the reaction?
The first problem would be finding a way to give all those ballistic nukes the ability to achieve escape velocity...
Then you'd have to deal with the second problem, cancelling each nuke's orbital momentum (around the sun). The people who do the various probes have explained that the most difficult problem was the recent probe that's now orbiting Mercury. Reaching Mercury, or even worse, the sun, requires dumping most of the momentum that your craft inherits from the Earth, and doing that directly takes a huge amount of fuel. The current Mercury orbiter took several years to get there, because they saved fuel by using the orbital "slingshot" approach of making numerous passes past other planets (mostly Earth and Mercury) in such a way that those planets "stole" momentum from the probe. The math for this is a bit tricky, and I'm not about to try posting it here. (But google can find it for you, if you're interested. ;-)
If you want to get rid of all our nukes, a far better approach would be to extract the fissile material and recycle it as power-plant rods. That would also have the benefit of converting part of it into valuable isotopes for medical and scientific uses.
OTOH, if you really wanted to waste it by tossing it into the sun, the sun wouldn't even notice such a trivial amount of added matter. The radioactivity would be trivial compared to what the sun (basically a huge runaway fusion reactor) is producing every second.
Re:NUKE the SUN! (Score:4, Funny)
If every country on Earth fired all of their nukes into the sun, what would be the reaction?
At a guess, they'd melt before they got anywhere near the surface and not have a chance to detonate properly.
Everybody knows that, to properly nuke the sun, you need a bomb the size of Manhattan* with a giant heat-shield and, for no adequately explored reason, despite decades of experience of getting unmanned space vehicles to nail a target 10 AUs away, a human crew to go space-crazy and jeopardise the mission.
(*the Mh is the traditional US unit for the size of an object in space, although the rest of the world use the proper FFF unit of "milliWales")
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Dude, the Sun is 330000 times the mass of the Earth. It's 1000 times the mass of Jupiter which is 2.5 times more massive than all of the other planets (including Pluto) put together. The Sun wouldn't even notice your gently nudged asteroids.
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Well, if you could convert the mass of all that matter to energy that would probably nuke the sun pretty effectively, but good luck finding some way to do that. The sun already converts hundreds of millions of tons of matter to energy every second, and apparently hasn't blown apart yet.
If you dumped a substantial portion of the sun's mass in iron into the sun that might trigger a supernova relatively soon (I would think the extra mass would increase its gravitational pull, increasing the density of the gas
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I'm glad you included it. It makes all the difference.
Re:NUKE the SUN! (Score:5, Informative)
Sun 100 times less powerful (Score:5, Informative)
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Don't underestimate the gnat's fart effect though, there are those who claim it's even more powerful than a butterfly wingflap.
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The Sun might give a small polite belch. Honestly the whole Earth could drop into the Sun and it wouldn't cause a huge (for the Sun) reaction. The Sun's mass is 330,000 times the mass of the Earth. That's like dropping an ounce of water into 10 tons of it.
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You would get your motor running & head out on the highway.
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Tonight? (Score:2)
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Well, if you want to be pedantic...
Atmospheric refraction can make the disc of the Sun visible even when the Sun is below the horizon. Thus, if a solar eclipse were visible just above the horizon at sunset (as it will be in some parts of North America), it would technically be visible at night.
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Solar eclipse during night time? Now, this is literally fantastic ...
How so? Every eclipse (solar or lunar) happens when it's night for half of the Earth. I watched this eclipse (via two live Internet feeds) when it was completely dark outside here in Boston.
In a similar vein, I've on several occasions amazed people by pointing out the moon that was visible in the daytime sky. It's curious that some people don't notice this until you trick them into looking at it.
That's why it is rare (Score:2)
Solar eclipse during night time? Now, this is literally fantastic (i.e. pertaining to fantasy).
Check the article title: now you know why it is a _rare_ annular eclipse...normal annular solar eclipses are almost annual too (not quite but once every 1-3 years).
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Solar eclipse during night time? Now, this is literally fantastic (i.e. pertaining to fantasy).
Check the article title: now you know why it is a _rare_ annular eclipse...normal annular solar eclipses are almost annual too (not quite but once every 1-3 years).
A matter of terminology: to me, on Earth surface, night time is when the Sun is totally "eclipsed" by the Earth (the way I noticed, it happens every day). As such a "Sun eclipsed by Moon" - annular or not - cannot be observed during night time.
Sucks to be me (Score:2)
We would have had a good view of it where I am, in Vancouver Canada, seeing as much as 80% coverage, but it's raining, and the forecast for today shows that it's going to stay overcast for the next couple of days.
I even managed to secure some special solar filter glasses especially for the occasion, and I won't get to actually see it.
Sometimes I hate living here.
Next one in my area, afaik, is in 2017... hopefully it won't be raining then as well, but knowing Vancouver, it's anybody's guess.
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It's been 70+ and sunny for two weeks. An amazing event rolls in and BAM - cloudy. Ah, the northwest...
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How to tell if there's a partial solar eclipse occurring in Seattle: the weather looks even greyer than usual.
(It looked a bit dark out gone 6pm, the sun being completely hidden by clouds rather than just the moon. I think it got a bit brighter again afterwards, although that might have been wishful thinking.)
The August 21st, 2017 eclipse [wikipedia.org] has a big long smear of totality across the northern USA. Seriously, drop whatever you're doing and go and see it. I saw the August 11th, 1999 eclipse [wikipedia.org] from a patch of wood
Save the glasses for June 5th (Score:5, Informative)
The transit of venus will be visible from most of North America (assuming no weather issues):
Unfortunately, the NASA eclipse website's taking a hammering today, but this should be the map (try the link tomorrow)
http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/OH/tran/TOV2012-Fig01.pdf [nasa.gov]
And there's an official gathering near you, too:
http://venustransit.gsfc.nasa.gov/events/viewapprovedevent/id/212 [nasa.gov]
For the transit times & path from your area, see:
http://transitofvenus.nl/wp/where-when/local-transit-times/ [transitofvenus.nl]
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OMG! (Score:2)
There's an eclipse tonight? It's the first I hear about it!
Re:OMG! (Score:5, Funny)
The media was trying to obscure the event, but we saw the light anyway as details seeped out the periphery.
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eclipse times by city [latimes.com]
Re:Anyone got times by location? (Score:4, Funny)
The server slowdown should be over tomorrow. Please check back then.
Make a pinhole viewer. (Score:4, Informative)
You can't view it directly (at least not if you want your eyes to keep working) but you can make a pinhole viewer with minimal supplies and tools.
Lots of options for variation, but I did this: Cut a postage-stamp sized hole in a cereal box (or something suitably opaque). Cut a small square of aluminum foil (scavenged from your tinfoil hat, if necessary) and tape it over the hole. Then use a pin to make the smallest hole possible in the foil.
Hold the cardboard w/ pinhole up orthogonal to the sun, and project the pinhole image onto a white card.
You'll see a tiny (reversed) image of the sun in the form of a small circle, and as the moon occludes it, you'll see it clearly.
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That's a complex way to make a pinhole viewer.
Last time I saw one was in high school, and our math class happened around the time of the eclipse. One of the perks our math teacher did was when we completed, he took us outside and showed us the eclipse using nothing more than a sheet of looseleaf paper with a pinhole in it made from a pushpin.
No, we didn't have a full eclipse, or even an annular one - this one was just a partial cresenting of the sun. Even with the crude viewer projected onto a concrete rail
Quite nice from Osaka this morning (Score:1)
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Yup, good here in Okinawa as well. I snapped about 350 pics. Can't wait to get home from work and get to processing them...
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From my perspective, the clouds helped. Since there were clouds it was possible to take pictures of the eclipse without a filter. At times it wasn't even possible to view the eclipse with the filter.
There are a good number of pictures on Flickr:
http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=solar+eclipse&ss=2&s=rec [flickr.com]
Rare? (Score:4, Informative)
Annular eclipses occur every 15 months on average.
NASA have a lot of solar eclipse stats [nasa.gov] for anyone interested.
Really pissed I didn't know about this earlier (Score:2)
The full eclipse line I found showed it to be about 10 hours drive from me. I would've gone had I been able to plan for it.
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Here's a picture of it from Los Angeles: http://t.co/mwYNgArz [t.co]
It wasn't that impressive honestly.
Wish I had a pair of binoculars.. (Score:1)
Am in Las Vegas, and was going to drive up to the center of the path to get the full effect. I decided not to waste the gas (a 240 mile round trip), and just discovered that I'm not going to miss all that much.. The NASA page with percentages of totality showed that where I was going (Zion National Park) was 96% coverage and simply staying here in Las Vegas, I get 92%.... Don't have any welders goggles, so I'm using the old "two cardboard pieces with a pinhole in one".. Went out about 15 min ago and sure en
MY EYES!!! (Score:1)
It's pretty cool, though. :-) The moon is passing through, say, upper two-thirds of the sun sideways. Cloudless sky, but the light is dimmed like it was overcast.
Birds are going apeshit. Rats are fleeing down the storm drains. Insects are doing synchro dance in the air. It's possible I'm lying.
Pics from New Mexico (Score:3)
Here's my pics of the eclipse [tumblr.com], as the sun set past the Sandia Mountains.
an eclipse at night? (Score:2)
The title sure looks strange. I guess for some people the event would occur at their night, but the important people today are the ones who are in daylight at the time and can see it and send photos for the rest of the world to see. Probably some of them are also slasdotters and will also wonder about the eclipse "tonight" article.
Video: Eclipsed Sun setting over Colorado Rockies (Score:3)
I was hoping to catch a time-lapse of the partially eclipsed sun setting over Longs Peak and it re-appeared literally at the last minute
BTW, since I didn't have an ND filter, mine was total makeshift
Solar eclipse tonight.. (Score:2)
Tonight? You mean, after sunset? Really?
East Coast Viewing (Score:2)
Forget the west coast and pacific rim - here in the east, the rotation of the earth completely blocked the sun for almost 10 hours - spectacular!
Safety tips (Score:1)
Pretty Sweet (Score:1)
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Eclipse start time: 4:56PM Eastern [timeanddate.com]
No idea where you got that link from, but as the Fine Article says, the eclipse actually "begins at 6:36 p.m. EDT (2236 GMT) in southern China." And it takes some time for it to move eastward from there to the US; it didn't start where I am until some time around 7:00pm CDT (8:00pm EDT). While I didn't depend on /. to tell me about the eclipse, if I did, I would've been informed in time.