Denver Airport Overrun by Car-Eating Rabbits 278
It turns out the soy-based wire covering on cars built after 2002 is irresistible to rodents. Nobody knows this better than those unlucky enough to park at DIA's Pikes Peak lot. The rabbits surrounding the area have been using the lot as an all-you-can-eat wiring buffet. Looks like it's time to break out The Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch.
Well, I Owe My Friend an Apology (Score:5, Funny)
Someone was playing a prank on him and I asked him if anyone in his family wanted him stationary for some reason recently. Or perhaps he had upset a neighbor by playing drums late into the night?
No, he told me, groundhogs stole into his garage and crawled up around the engine manifold and ate the cables. Now that was some Car Talk quality humor. I took him to a salvage yard to pick up used cables on the cheap -- the whole way there he described in great detail a groundhog leaving his garage with cables in tow. I figured he was playing quite the elaborate joke, had done something to the wires himself and was embarrassed to admit it or perhaps took more than just tea when he played drums.
Guess I owe him an apology.
Re:Well, I Owe My Friend an Apology (Score:4, Funny)
Simple solution:
Leave an open pan of glycol antifreeze out for a chaser. :)
Re:Well, I Owe My Friend an Apology (Score:4, Informative)
Simple solution:
Leave an open pan of glycol antifreeze out for a chaser. :)
If you have ever seen an animal die because they drank antifreeze that was left out/spilled, you wouldn't be saying this. (unless your just that heartless)
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I'm being as merciful as Nature, which kills the vast majority of life forms. Nature is far more ruthless than any human.
Right, which is typically why we strive to do better than nature.
Re:Well, I Owe My Friend an Apology (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Well, I Owe My Friend an Apology (Score:5, Funny)
And if your pet rabbit is at the airport, please come get it.
Thanks,
Denver International Airport
Re:Well, I Owe My Friend an Apology (Score:5, Funny)
The old bacon-cheeseburger insulated wires were an even bigger problem.
Re:Well, I Owe My Friend an Apology (Score:5, Funny)
The old bacon-cheeseburger insulated wires were an even bigger problem.
Except the problem there was cats with bad grammar.
Re:Well, I Owe My Friend an Apology (Score:5, Funny)
LOL. I can haz catalytic converter?
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I love you guys.
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The Matrix is plug on coil since they started making them. There is no distributer.
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That's what Neo told me!
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And this is why when we design substations most clients specify steel or brass wire Armour. If you leave a wire sitting there for long enough, something will try and chew through it. We actually had to stop installing Steel wire Armour cables laced with Peppers as they where causing OH&S issues. The cables in Questions weigh about 80kg per meter and so the blokes who where working on them would get quite sweaty while them and their apprentices held them in place and prepared them for termination. An
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Wow, thanks, you finally figured it out. Now, which car would you buy him?
According to the article, anything made before 2002.
Dear Tires: (Score:5, Funny)
Death awaits you all big nasty pointy teeth.
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What, behind that rabbit?
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!rodents (Score:5, Informative)
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Well what else can you expect from humans? Honestly, marsupials can be so species-centric sometimes.
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That was the joke, human slashdotters mix up rodents and lagomorphs, so rabbit slashdotters mix up primates and marsupials.
I guess it wasn't the best execution, so I won't say "woosh."
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whoooosh
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Rabbits are actually lagomorphs, not rodents.
I for one welcome our new lagomorphic overlords.
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Re:!rodents (Score:5, Funny)
"but the number of references to rabbits as rodents is quite offensive."
I'd have posted a similar comment, but got stuck getting out of my fursuit.
Re:!rodents (Score:5, Funny)
Rabbits are actually lagomorphs, not rodents.
Who knew that Sam & Max would turn out to be so educational?
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Rabbits are actually lagomorphs, not rodents. I realize that mice are mentioned as a problem too, but the number of references to rabbits as rodents is quite offensive.
But they are both Glires, so call it a wash.
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quite offensive? (Score:2)
are you emotionally invested in the taxonomy of small furry mammals?
whatever you do, do NOT click this link, your level of offense might give you a heart attack, this is abu ghraib level offense:
http://www.fsinet.or.jp/~sokaisha/rabbit/991121/991121.htm [fsinet.or.jp]
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wassup Doc? You tell'em, doc!
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Since they mentioned both, thay should have used Glires.
oh wait, no one cares.
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A lagomorph sounds like something that will burst out of your chest and requires a team of space marines to take down.
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Apparently you've never met my rabbits.
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Have you never heard of The Killer Beast of Caerbannog?
Follow! But! follow only if ye be men of valor, for the entrance to this cave is guarded by a creature so foul, so cruel that no man yet has fought with it and lived! Bones of four fifty men lie strewn about its lair. So, brave knights, if you do doubt your courage or your strength, come no further, for death awaits you all with nasty big pointy teeth.
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the number of references to rabbits as rodents is quite offensive.
Is there something wrong with rodents, you insensitive clod? 8(:o-)E
"quite offensive"? (Score:2)
"...quite offensive"? Dude, man up. Seriously.
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Bah, much more impressive when you use your spear and magic helmet...
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it's always about the lag
On a related note (Score:2)
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Rabbits chew wires regardless (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Rabbits chew wires regardless (Score:5, Interesting)
If you let them chew on a cable or wire with a little but of current running through it, the rabbit usually stops chewing on wires. Our family had rabbits as pets for a while. One of them liked to chew wires. He chewed the lamp wires. After the shock, he stopped chewing on the wires. The rabbit was alive (he lived another 9 years). His whiskers were a bit singed and shorter. We did have to replace every lamp cord he got to.
Re:Rabbits chew wires regardless (Score:4, Interesting)
If you let them chew on a cable or wire with a little but of current running through it, the rabbit usually stops chewing on wires. Our family had rabbits as pets for a while. One of them liked to chew wires. He chewed the lamp wires. After the shock, he stopped chewing on the wires. The rabbit was alive (he lived another 9 years). His whiskers were a bit singed and shorter. We did have to replace every lamp cord he got to.
I've had a different experience. My aunt's rabbit chewed through her refrigerator power cable twice, and one of my rabbits, before she was no longer allowed to roam the house, chewed every cable off the back of a computer (all low-current save the power cable) on two occasions. Thing is: if the appliance isn't drawing power right then, they can chew through with impunity, and even if it *is* drawing power, as long as they only chew through one wire at a time they'll just get a quick shock when they cut that wire. And given how dry a rabbit's mouth is, and that it's cutting through with its non-conductive teeth, they might not even notice. This particular rabbit is smart enough to know the meaning of the word "no" and run over to me when I call her name (which my other rabbit is either too stupid or too uninterested in humans to do) so it's not like she's too dumb to learn about getting shocked. I think she just didn't care or didn't notice, or that she didn't get shocked, since she continued chewing on cords subsequently. Wrapping the cables in split looming that had been sprayed with cayenne pepper did discourage them.
Even weirder, I had a squirrel nest in my workshop wall, and when I realized it and evicted them, I tore off the siding to see what damage they'd done. They'd stripped all the outer insulation off the romex in the walls, eaten all the paper that lines the bare ground wire, and eaten all the insulation off the white return line, but the black live line only had a few nicks in the insulation, so either the black vinyl doesn't taste good or squirrels are smarter than rabbits. Of course, they had to live in physical contact with the wires, while the rabbits were just chewing on them occasionally. But with that said, I'm betting squirrels are smarter than rabbits.
As for the article itself, it's not just the DIA parking lot. My girlfriend's work car, a PT Cruiser, had most of the engine wiring eaten by rats while sitting overnight at her workplace in downtown Denver, while they completely ignored her (pre-2002) Subaru. It was startlingly expensive to get that car rewired, and apparently it was by no means just the spark plug wiring.
Re:Rabbits chew wires regardless (Score:5, Informative)
Thing is: if the appliance isn't drawing power right then, they can chew through with impunity, and even if it *is* drawing power, as long as they only chew through one wire at a time they'll just get a quick shock when they cut that wire. And given how dry a rabbit's mouth is, and that it's cutting through with its non-conductive teeth, they might not even notice.
That's not how electricity works -- the hot wire is hot regardless of whether or not the appliance is drawing power.
There are 3 wires in your refrigerator's power cord -- the ground wire (which the rabbit can suck on all day with no ill effect), the neutral wire, which is bonded to the ground wire at the distribution panel, so it should be at the same potential as the ground wire in a properly wired house, and the third wire is the hot wire. This is the one with the juice and the one that will cause a shock regardless of whether or not the appliance is running or not.
Of course, in an outlet controlled by a switch, the hot wire will not be energized if the switch is off (again assuming a properly wired house - some amateur electricians have been known to put the switch on the neutral side).
power cord switch (Score:2)
lots of lamps have their switch on the cable, so the portion between the switch and the lamp works exactly as the switch controlled-outlet.
so the parent is right : as long as the lamp is off (=the loop isn't closed) Mr. Rabbit is safe. And if he managed to short the exposed wires during his meal, you're going to discover some sparkling surprise next time you turn on the switch.
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lots of lamps have their switch on the cable, so the portion between the switch and the lamp works exactly as the switch controlled-outlet.
so the parent is right : as long as the lamp is off (=the loop isn't closed) Mr. Rabbit is safe. And if he managed to short the exposed wires during his meal, you're going to discover some sparkling surprise next time you turn on the switch.
Except that he's talking about a refrigerator and specifically said appliance not lamp:
My aunt's rabbit chewed through her refrigerator power cable twice, and one of my rabbits, before she was no longer allowed to roam the house, chewed every cable off the back of a computer (all low-current save the power cable) on two occasions. Thing is: if the appliance isn't drawing power right then, they can chew through with impunity
I've never seen a refrigerator with an inline switch in the power cord.
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Thing is: if the appliance isn't drawing power right then, they can chew through with impunity, and even if it *is* drawing power, as long as they only chew through one wire at a time they'll just get a quick shock when they cut that wire. And given how dry a rabbit's mouth is, and that it's cutting through with its non-conductive teeth, they might not even notice.
That's not how electricity works -- the hot wire is hot regardless of whether or not the appliance is drawing power.
There are 3 wires in your refrigerator's power cord -- the ground wire (which the rabbit can suck on all day with no ill effect), the neutral wire, which is bonded to the ground wire at the distribution panel, so it should be at the same potential as the ground wire in a properly wired house, and the third wire is the hot wire. This is the one with the juice and the one that will cause a shock regardless of whether or not the appliance is running or not.
That's not how electricity works. The hot wire is hot regardless, but if nothing is drawing power, you can cut the hot wire with impunity. You can grab it and lick it, and your body will run up to 110V but if there isn't a path to ground, there isn't any current flow. Here's a great video [youtube.com] about a guy who works on high voltage lines, who is crawling along an uninsulated million volt line, working on it, because there's no ground return path so he's fine.
If you don't believe me try it out yourself. You c
Provincial description. (Score:2)
Most of the world does not have a neutral line, but two hot lines.
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Thing is: if the appliance isn't drawing power right then, they can chew through with impunity, and even if it *is* drawing power, as long as they only chew through one wire at a time they'll just get a quick shock when they cut that wire. And given how dry a rabbit's mouth is, and that it's cutting through with its non-conductive teeth, they might not even notice.
That's not how electricity works -- the hot wire is hot regardless of whether or not the appliance is drawing power.
There are 3 wires in your refrigerator's power cord -- the ground wire (which the rabbit can suck on all day with no ill effect), the neutral wire, which is bonded to the ground wire at the distribution panel, so it should be at the same potential as the ground wire in a properly wired house, and the third wire is the hot wire. This is the one with the juice and the one that will cause a shock regardless of whether or not the appliance is running or not.
Of course, in an outlet controlled by a switch, the hot wire will not be energized if the switch is off (again assuming a properly wired house - some amateur electricians have been known to put the switch on the neutral side).
Well guess which color of the hot wire's insulation is? It is the black wire that white raddit don't want to chew on!
Re:Rabbits chew wires regardless (Score:5, Funny)
Its only 'hot' to you if your body completes a circuit to ground. Its perfectly possible to cut a hot wire if there is no chance of the current going through you to ground. Its how high voltage linemen who repair high tension lines via helicopter do it. The problem occurs if they get too close to a mast ( which would form a ground circuit ), or the other 'cold' conductor.
Yes, you are right. I would like to amend my post to say:
If the rabbit is wearing proper protective gear, including insulating rubber shields over his teeth, a dental dam in his mouth to prevent saliva from wetting his teeth and tongue, rubber booties on his feet to insulate him from the ground, and a full-body rubber jacket to prevent any part of his body from contacting the floor, in those circumstances, the rabbit may be safe from electrocution if he chews through the hot wire. In normal conditions found in most homes, with the normal clothing typically worn by rabbits, he'll likely provide a good enough path to ground to feel a shock when he chews through the hot wire.
Oh, and if the rabbit happens to be in a helicopter that is properly bonded to the power line...in those conditions he may also chew through the wire with impunity, though I would recommend that he wear the proper fall arresting gear.
Re:Rabbits chew wires regardless (Score:5, Informative)
Black is Neutral. The white ones are the hot ones (or red in 3-wire). Green or non-insulated for Ground. Unless a dipshit who doesn't follow code wired your house.
Nope [wikipedia.org]. Please to not ever be working on house wiring in the US, kthxby.
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spray or rub the wires with capcasian.. works great.
Honestly why dont car wires made from eco-garbage like soy have this already embedded in it?
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If you let them chew on a cable or wire with a little but of current running through it, the rabbit usually stops chewing on wires. Our family had rabbits as pets for a while. One of them liked to chew wires. He chewed the lamp wires. After the shock, he stopped chewing on the wires.
And that, dear friends, is why most people shouldn't be allowed to own pets in general, and rabbits in particular.
There's a process *all* prospective rabbit owners should go through before bring a rabbit into their home, and it'
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Like all animals above the size of a hamster, rabbits require regular exercise. Only assholes would keep their rabbit in a cage 24/7.
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I can't even count how many wires and cables I've had to patch-up due to my girlfriend's rabbits. They nearly ate through my MacBook Pro's power cable, which would cost more to replace than the two of them were to buy.
Re:Rabbits chew wires regardless (Score:4, Interesting)
Furthermore, one of them once got behind the fridge and chewed through its power cable. There was a loud bang, and a bright flash... and the rabbit was 100% fine. (Plus, it seemed rather unconcerned.)
I swear, those things are impervious to electricity.
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I'm not sure who is dumber, here, you or the rabbit. Did it never occur to you to just hide/protect your cables and pay a little bit of attention?
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My stepdaughter had a pet rabbit (horrible pets, btw), and it used to love chewing on our computer wires.
Horrible pets? How can you say that? They're such sweet animals... They're very affectionate and playful and clean, and chewing things is just about the only kind of mischief they get into...
The trick with the wires is to bunny-proof spaces where the rabbits will be out. Make the cords inaccessible.
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Yeah, but that requires, like, work and stuff! I want to just get a rabbit around easter time, throw it in a cage, and then forget about it! Isn't that what pets are for?
Install Python in your computer (Score:3, Funny)
This [python.org] will surely get your computer rid of rabbits.
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Elmer Fudd might have been on to something. Who wants some nice soy fed rabbit meat?
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I finally understood what was going on between Elmer Fudd and Bugs Bunny when my cousin planted a vegetable garden and got cleaned out by the rabbits.
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I wouldn't go that far. They are horrible pets for children, simply because of stark personality incompatibilities, but I have two rabbits that are both extremely friendly. A lot of people think they're just getting a cat with long ears, when in fact the differences are much deeper. Rabbits are definitely higher maintenance, as they tend to be somewhat messy, and can develop destructive habits (digging, chewing) if not supervised closely and kept away
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I wouldn't go that far. They are horrible pets for children, simply because of stark personality incompatibilities, but I have two rabbits that are both extremely friendly. A lot of people think they're just getting a cat with long ears, when in fact the differences are much deeper.
Absolutely.
The real problem is that when someone says "horrible pet", they mean "horrible pet because it's not like a dog or cat". They can't grasp the concept of being the caretaker for an animal simply for the sake of it.
Rabbi
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Cover the exposed bottom of your car with rabbit wire.
There is such a thing as rabbit wire, right?
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Yes. [bassequipment.com]
I can't believe this would work for your car engine while you park it, nor would I think that most people want to add several pounds of galvanized wire to the underside of their cars.
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I like mine battered and fried.
No. not that way! Put down the mallet and jumper cables.
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That's wed cabbage, you wasciwy wabbit!!!
summary longer than original article (Score:2)
Strange that the airport doesn't think that rodents are to blame; apparently they prefer the idea that they offer no security and people come and randomly damage/steal wiring from cars parked in their lot.
I passed through DIA a couple weeks ago, and I can tell you that the bunny rabbits hardly chewed on my wires at all.
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Don't you know security at an airport is only for show?
That and millimeter wave voyeurism.
Wiring specification (Score:2, Funny)
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Open a Trailer Park next to the airport... (Score:2)
Hungry Red Necks means fewer rabbits....
The number shalt be 3..... (Score:2, Funny)
One word solution (Score:2)
Ferreting! Even if the ferrets don't catch the rabbits, the scent will often chase the rabbits away.
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But how do you then get rid of the ferrets?
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Skinner: We unleash wave after wave of Chinese needle snakes. They'll wipe out the ferrets.
Lisa: But aren't the snakes even worse?
Skinner: Yes, but we're prepared for that. We've lined up a fabulous type of gorilla that thrives on snake meat.
Lisa: But then we're stuck with gorillas!
Skinner: No, that's the beautiful part. When wintertime rolls around, the gorillas simply freeze to death.
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Or, you know, put in a tighter fence for the bottom 3 feet of the fence. Be sure it goes 8 inches into the dirt.
It's the fucking horse!!! (Score:2)
This mother fucker [google.com] is the one possessing these bunnies to do such nefarious deeds. The damn thing already killed [thedenverchannel.com] the guy who sculpted it.
If you come to Denver, find a Raider fan, they will protect you.
So, at least in Denver, it is... (Score:2)
RABBIT SEASON!
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No it isn't its DUCK SEASON.
http://wildlife.state.co.us/Hunting/SeasonDatesAndFees/WaterfowlDatesAndFees.htm [state.co.us]
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DUCK SEASON.
http://wildlife.state.co.us/Hunting/SeasonDatesAndFees/WaterfowlDatesAndFees.htm [state.co.us]
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Don't bother with TFA (Score:2)
Simple Fix: (Score:2)
Just hire this dude [wikimedia.org].
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and here I was, expecting to see a photo of This dude [google.com]
Florida Everglades has similar problem (Score:4, Informative)
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/state/meals-on-wheels-vultures-in-everglades-feast-on-529072.html [palmbeachpost.com]
Anya was RIGHT (Score:2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxrgHzWjf3E [youtube.com]
The silver lining here.. (Score:2)
This does suggest that widespread use of soy or hemp-based plastics would be even more eco-friendly than previously thought. They'll not only decompose faster and more thoroughly than petro-plastics, but that process is actively assisted by the local fauna!
1...2....5! (Score:2)
3 sir!
3!
The Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch won't help (Score:2)
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To protect the environment, our cars are now greener than ever. Why, even the wiring is biodegradable!
Car wiring has been self-degrading a lot longer than just since 2002...
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Just because there was a problem does not mean the environment is now "worse off". Clearly this is happening to a tiny fraction of overall cars.