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Dark Energy, Life Searches Make Strange Bedfellows 68

eldavojohn writes "Both the EU and US are using a strategy to merge what used to be two separate searches: the search for exoplanets that may harbor life and the search for dark energy. In an effort to develop 'robust, low-risk missions that maximize the scientific return,' the article analyzes how, without any changes, a space-based dark energy telescope could also check for microlensing events indicating an exoplanet."
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Dark Energy, Life Searches Make Strange Bedfellows

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  • by Daniel Dvorkin ( 106857 ) * on Friday November 20, 2009 @04:12AM (#30168952) Homepage Journal

    ... why this isn't obvious, and being done already?

    From my layman's POV, it seems like we have telescopes all over the spectrum, from X-rays to long radio waves, constantly gathering enormous amounts of data which could easily be mined for dark energy detection, SETI, and just about anything else conceivable. So while I think it's very cool that two such different applications can share data and techniques, I'd like to know what the reasons are that this doesn't just happen all the time. Is it a reluctance to share data, differences in the type of data needed, or something else entirely?

  • by icebike ( 68054 ) on Friday November 20, 2009 @05:00AM (#30169098)

    I suspect you over estimate the amount of data being collected and how unsuitable some data may be for any other purpose.

    Ignoring the obvious, that space is a huge space, you can hardly expect optical telescope sky scans used to detect, say, Kuiper belt objects in visible light to be suitable for detecting dark matter. Quasar signals won't be useful to detect the slight wobble induced by a planet in a star's motion.

    Everywhere you look on this planet there are cameras and cell phones and radios, seismographs and weather stations.
    We have telescopes, space stations, and radio survey webs.

    Yet we missed the asteroid that passed on November 9th till it was only 15 hours away.
    http://www.universetoday.com/2009/11/09/surprise-unknown-asteroid-buzzed-earth/ [universetoday.com]

    Just because you have data doesn't mean its useful for all purposes, or any other purpose that that for which it was collected.

  • by MRe_nl ( 306212 ) on Friday November 20, 2009 @09:41AM (#30170292)

    The National Geographic-Roper Public Affairs 2006 Geographic Literacy Study paints a dismal picture of the geographic knowledge of the most recent graduates of the U.S. education system

    Thirty-three percent of respondents couldn't pinpoint Louisiana on a map.
    Fewer than three in 10 think it important to know the locations of countries in the news and just 14 percent believe speaking another language is a necessary skill.
    Two-thirds didn't know that the earthquake that killed 70,000 people in October 2005 occurred in Pakistan.
    Six in 10 could not find Iraq on a map of the Middle East.
    Forty-seven percent could not find the Indian subcontinent on a map of Asia.
    Seventy-five percent were unable to locate Israel on a map of the Middle East.
    Nearly three-quarters incorrectly named English as the most widely spoken native language.
    Six in 10 did not know the border between North and South Korea is the most heavily fortified in the world.
    Thirty percent thought the most heavily fortified border was between the United States and Mexico.

    Source: The Associated Press
    http://www.cnn.com/2006/EDUCATION/05/02/geog.test/ [cnn.com]

  • Re:What? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by smoker2 ( 750216 ) on Friday November 20, 2009 @10:03AM (#30170496) Homepage Journal
    Interestingly (to me anyway) I am currently reading Asimovs "Of Time and Space and Other Things" from 1968, where he posits that if the night sky were not dark, life would probably not have evolved. To be honest it wasn't his idea (and he doesn't claim it is). In 1826 a German scientist called Heinrich Wilhelm Matthias Olbers (b 1758), who also discovered the asteroids Pallas and Vesta, started an investigation which became known as Olbers Paradox.

    To briefly summarise the idea, if you take the estimated number of stars in the galaxy then add up all the light which they are emitting, there should be no dark night on earth, as the cumulative effect of 100s of million of stars would ensure a blinding sky, not to mention an amazing amount of heat. When you add to that the light from other galaxies, the situation becomes even more untenable for life. But trying to solve this paradox led Olbers and later Hubble to discover that stars and galaxies are not uniformly spread throughout the universe, and then to discover further that the universe is expanding and due to red shift, we never receive the energy from those most distant from us. Hence the dark skies.

    I did say it was a brief summary ! Interesting read, in a Connections type of way. And also shows how long these topics have been studied before the truth was known. Olbers didn't know what he was looking for, he just thought that the situation needed some thought. When he started, the existence of other galaxies wasn't known, let alone the size of the universe. Most of his work was theoretical as the technology to see the problem first hand didn't exist. Logic abounds in science !

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