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The Fine Art of 'Boss Science' 209

BoredStiff writes "NYMag has up an article that explores Boss Science and the minds of American corporate leaders. In the real world, bosses are known to suffer from a long list of social pathologies: naked aggression, credit hogging, micromanaging, bullying, you name it. Leadership research shows that subtle nasty moves like glaring and condescending comments, explicit moves like insults or put-downs, and even physical intimidation can be effective paths to power. Research also shows that employees tend to see the jerk as boss material. The article goes on to discuss some of the science bosses apply to making an operation run smoothly: 'A researcher reported that one law firm deconstructs its HR needs by personality traits. It insists on extremely bright employees who are also extremely insecure. 'They want them to think that working really hard matters,' he explains. Through this prism, personality types can even be mixed and matched to make a team function more efficiently.'"
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The Fine Art of 'Boss Science'

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  • Re:The Enneagram (Score:4, Interesting)

    by BWJones ( 18351 ) * on Thursday April 12, 2007 @04:59PM (#18708673) Homepage Journal
    It's not just your workers, it's what the workers want out of the job.

    Precisely. Some folks are just in it for the paycheck, but that does not mean that they do not do their work with any lesser degree of competency. Other folks are in it to be famous while others still are doing their jobs to be influential. The trick is to create an environment where all approaches can be fostered and yet still maintain productivity, a sense of satisfaction (for you and your employees), and a positive income.

    Do they want to be seen as the heros?

    Heros I can take working for me. They tend to work very hard, are people pleasers and can often be trusted (they make good classified materials risks). The dangerous part about them is that they also tend to be co-dependent which for the company is not often a problem, but it leads to problems in their personal lives.

    Do they want the drama?

    These people I *don't* want to work with. They are always sabotaging productivity in the name of something happening where they are at the center of attention. They such cycles and personnel time up like no other with the exception of the pathological narcissist.

    Do they want to it to be done exactly right?

    Fine, but allow them the opportunity to see failure as a learning experience. It (failure) will happen and if you encourage a culture of insisting everything is done without mistakes, you never hear about the mistakes that end up biting you in the ass down the road.

    Do they want to tell other people to do the work?

    No, it is a team and if they want the glory without the work then they don't work for me.

  • Re:Lame article (Score:3, Interesting)

    by drinkypoo ( 153816 ) <drink@hyperlogos.org> on Thursday April 12, 2007 @05:18PM (#18709029) Homepage Journal

    Never once were the premises of the workplace questioned - why do you need a boss at all? If you have a system that makes it most likely that assholes will succeed, why not change the system? the article is just hand wringing, with a few bits of measly tripe appeals to "the human condition." Not once does this article even mention the word "union."

    Your nickname and your comment say it all. Unions are bloodsucking leeches that reward mediocrity.

    Now, cooperatives truly provide for all persons working for a business. But then you don't have a Union hierarchy to climb upward so that you can be rewarded for being too unmotivated to find a new job.

    It is particularly telling that organized crime is/has been so frequently involved with unions. They are interested in them because they become an effective means of control and of wielding power.

  • by Mab_Mass ( 903149 ) on Thursday April 12, 2007 @05:28PM (#18709191) Journal

    Or, to put it another way, the only thing that should matter to an employer is that you add more value to the company than it costs to pay you.

    Emphasis here on should. Too often, people only care about how many hours you put in and think that more hours is the sign of a better employee. I personally side with an old boss of mine who thought that someone working constant overtime is a sign of a problem. Either that person's boss is piling on too many tasks or that person is in the wrong position.

    Then, there was another boss I had who took the attitude that management is a service done to those "under" you, where the manager's role was to shelter them from higher level BS and help them get the job done.

    I had another boss once who told us that we shouldn't be "afraid" to come in on evenings and weekends. He was an asshole.

    Now, I'm rambling. -1 offtopic

  • Umm (Score:3, Interesting)

    by nicklott ( 533496 ) on Thursday April 12, 2007 @05:38PM (#18709385)
    Does anyone actually work anywhere that these "boss" stereotypes are real? I've worked a lot of places, and had good and bad bosses, but my immediate managers have never displayed these characteristics (bullying, credit hogging etc). In a real company people who do these things are found out pretty fast and dumped. Surely this is just some weird Dilbert-type fantasy world we're talking about?
  • Re:Coincidence? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Xiaran ( 836924 ) on Thursday April 12, 2007 @05:40PM (#18709417)
    The things is that that can get very fuzzy, when some people procounce things and others dont. For example I worked with some Germans that pronounced VOIP. The told me that everyone in germany says VOIP. I used to know a guy that called ATMs "at ems".
  • by Kris_B_04 ( 883011 ) on Thursday April 12, 2007 @05:43PM (#18709463) Homepage Journal
    When I began my career as a programmer, I got a job with a great, but small company. The boss had built it from nothing. He had built his life from nothing.. .and he LOVED to tell everyone about that. (We would get lecture upon lecture about it, in fact. ;) How if he could do it, anyone could do it.)

    But he was a good man. He actually could separate business from personal and he was great when he wasn't in "boss mode". His company got larger and he ended up in "boss mode" more often and that was when people started thinking of him as more of an asshole.

    In the beginning, before he got "older" and "comfortable".. (Millionaire maybe now?), he was sociable as well. He took care of his employees and they were happy. He had monthly picnics and ice cream socials. Took us all to baseball games and all sorts of great stuff. He even had parties in his own home! Then, we think he got greedy. (more more more money!) and he started treating his techs like monkeys. (Any monkey can do this.. why pay graduates when we can train anyone off the street and pay them dirt cheap). He started treating the rest of his employees poorly as well. He still tried to keep up the "act" but his heart wasn't in it anymore.. and his employees started noticing that..

    I (and others) saw the change coming. I got out of there, but there were tears. LOL (Hey, I'm still a girl dammit). He had taken good care of me and my son, above and beyond.. but that was before... that was earlier. Yes.. I actually hugged my boss on my last day... ;)

    So, in this rambling, what I'm trying to say, is that not all bosses are assholes.. and maybe it becomes a learned trait. Maybe the system and society wear them down... maybe they become that way because that is what is expected or maybe they see those who are assholes really moving up the corporate ladder. Whatever the reason, it truly has become a job description for many bosses. And the more people who see it as a means to an end, the more people will pull that out of themselves just to get where they want to go. Yes, there are a lot who were "born" as assholes and never change throughout life (with what we are seeing, what motivation IS there to change?), but it's not a steady progression. It's not all defined under one stereotype... it is my belief that society MAKES the assholes because we allow them to BE assholes.

    Kris
  • by King_TJ ( 85913 ) on Thursday April 12, 2007 @05:49PM (#18709567) Journal
    Right... I think a good bit of what really happens is, people join the ranks of "management", and then they discover that they have more control over their payscale than they ever did before. If you're an engineer for example, the best you can probably hope for is that all of your hard work and willingness to pull long hours when needed gets noticed, so you get a few extra percent when your annual raise comes around. But your pay is still pretty much fixed, based on what *management* has decided the range of pay will be for that position.

    Once you're part of management, you can position yourself so your team of people beneath you accomplishes goals that you can then at least partially claim credit for, thereby giving you "easy reasons" for your own pay raise. They do the work, and you share in the reward. Furthermore, you have all these other tools at your disposal (in many cases). You get the say-so in deciding if your team should hire on additional staff, or cut back, or simply stay put with a "hiring freeze". When you dislike an employee's personality, you can make him go away. The rest of the team just has to put up with these problems, or else potentially face disciplinary measures including docking their pay! And of course, you can juggle all the numbers to put yourself in the most positive light possible, to further justify your own pay raise. (The rest of the people working beneath you probably don't even have access to those numbers, much less authority to present them to top-level execs.)
  • Yes. (Score:5, Interesting)

    by KingSkippus ( 799657 ) on Thursday April 12, 2007 @05:57PM (#18709689) Homepage Journal

    I've worked at two jobs where I've seen the reality of bosses to this extreme of badness.

    A couple of examples: At the first one, my boss used to walk up and down behind our cubes every five minutes or so to make sure we were at our desks and working. If we weren't, she would start asking our neighbors where we were, when we would be back, etc. (And we were all hard-working professionals.) She even asked me to go to the men's room once to try to track down one of my coworkers. (I refused, and fortunately, he got back to his desk before it got ugly.)

    I'll never forget once in a meeting, her boss suggested a change that we make to one of the reports we generated. He wasn't ugly about it, and he wasn't complaining; he was just trying to make it a little better than it was. Right there in front of him and all of us, she said, "I've told them that they're supposed to be doing that. I don't know why, but they just won't." (Of course, this being a new change, she was flat-out lying.)

    At my last job, I honestly think my boss was crazy. As in, seriously, mental problems. He would yell and scream at people who were actually trying to help him with something. I'll never forget when he pulled me into a meeting and reamed me up and down because I was doing my job--are you sitting down?--too well. He told me, "This is really great quality work, but great is the worst enemy of good. I really need you to just do what you're working on, you know, good enough, and then move on to other things."

    God, how I love leaving that company. He was on vacation when I turned in my notice, and I told the Human Resources lady (who, incidentally, I had talked to on two separate occasions about his behavior with absolutely nothing done about it), "Look, I know this is bad form, and if the circumstances weren't so extreme, I wouldn't do this. But the truth of the matter is that I do not want to ever see my boss again, so I will not be working out a two-week notice. Friday will be my last day."

    Fortunately, I've had a couple of very good bosses to compensate for these horrible experiences. My current boss is a gem, and you all should be so lucky to have one like him. I guess we all have our professional ups and downs, and I've had some real doozies on both sides of that spectrum.

  • Re:Conversely (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Fred_A ( 10934 ) <fred@f r e d s h o m e . o rg> on Thursday April 12, 2007 @06:07PM (#18709855) Homepage

    Or! You can find the best talent there is, treat your employees with respect, compensate them fairly (or very well if they are particularly valuable) and work from the perspective that a place of work is a place of education where people will gather skills and hopefully work to the best of their ability.
    Sure, you can do that and sleep like a baby... while your competition laughs all the way to the bank (and their employees stare nervously at the ceiling all night long while shaking from the weird mix of antidepressants). You'll still fold first. The problem with evil is that in the real world, and *especially* the corporate world, it pretty much always wins. And what's more, once someone starts bending the rules, everybody *has* to do the same or be left behind to shrivel and die.

    Yes it would be nice if the world was fair. It might even be the sign that we're a civilised society. However currently the world is what it is (i.e. certainly not fair at all) and that is one of the most important lessons to be learned, bitter as it is.

    On a side note, it might be useful to remember that the legal system doesn't have anything to do with being fair. Would you expect physics to be fair ? The legal system has to to with the implementation of a set of local rules which you may or may not see as fair (but this is completely irrelevant). (hence the comparison with physics)
  • by Grishnakh ( 216268 ) on Thursday April 12, 2007 @07:23PM (#18710873)
    The retainer and contract model doesn't work with engineering, simply because companies don't expect to handle engineering that way, since other engineers aren't already doing that.

    The contract model (without the retainer bit) does work, but only to a certain extent. Most contractors work for another company that just subcontracts them out to other companies, taking a cut of their pay. It isn't much different from an employment agency.

    Independent contracting (often called "consulting"), however, is another matter. However, the problem here is that this only works if you're an expert in something, and have established yourself this way. For people fresh out of college, this obviously won't work; the only feasible way of earning money is to become someone's employee at this point. Worse, for many (most?) projects, the project is simply too big to contract out to independent contractors working at home. It could be contracted to one of those contracting companies I mentioned in the paragraph above, but as I pointed out the engineer is still someone's employee, it's just a different corporate structure.

    Personally, since I hate management and the inefficiency that comes with working in a large corporation, I hope to eventually become an independent contractor. I've already signed up to do my first job on the side which I'll be starting very soon; hopefully it'll go well and within 5 years I can be doing this full-time instead of being someone else's bitch, err, employee.

    BTW, one way I've found which works pretty well for getting more money in engineering is to quit! At least now, when companies are clamoring for experience engineers, (and this was even more true during the dot-com boom) they'll pay a lot more to someone new to get them to take the position, while they'll give out only meager raises to loyal employees. So by changing jobs every 3 years or so, you can increase your salary quite handsomely as long as the market rates keep increasing. The only thing to beware of is leaving too soon, since companies catch on (even though the whole matter is intellectually dishonest; if they valued their employees, why wouldn't they give them better raises than market rate?).
  • by syousef ( 465911 ) on Friday April 13, 2007 @03:50AM (#18715311) Journal
    Sorry but that's a load of apologist tripe. Being a girl doesn't have to mean you let your heart rule over your head. Your boss got greedy and you got out which is the right thing for you and your family. Doing good one day doesn't give you a free pass to do evil the next. No one makes excuses for a serial killer because at one time they were a nice quiet boy.

    I've worked for a similar company. The founders (One middle age man and his younger partner were absolutely fantastic during the boom when I was hired. I was employee number 7. Bonuses were something like 15-20%. There were dinners at very expensive restuarants as prizes. There was a free softdrink policy if you stayed back late. The fact that we were working on niche technology didn't matter so much - it was after all a tech boom and work wasn't scarce.

    I spent 5 years at the company.

    When I left there were more than 50 employees and a low cost (low wage) Asian office training up for support. Forget the free softdrink. Forget any kind of bonus (literally none). Work was one crunch after the other (but I basically worked normal hours. I refuse to work continuous crunches).

    What happened? Partly competition and partly the bosses becoming less willing to share what did come their way. The sad thing is a token is all that was needed. I think that yes a company founder may get worn down and that it's a tough job - people abuse your trust, you risk a lot, and the buck stops with you. However that doesn't excuse becoming an asshole. If as a company founder the only way you can make your business survive is to turn it into something you're not proud of yous hould get the fuck out.
  • by Aceticon ( 140883 ) on Friday April 13, 2007 @05:04AM (#18715665)
    I work as an IT contractor in the UK (previously in Holland)

    One of the great things of being one is that nobody will look twice if your CV says you've been changing assignments every 6 months.

    It is true that as a contractor i work via an agency, and they take a cut. The thing is, they get a 20% cut and I get the other 80%. If i was working as a permanent employee for a company that then placed me at their clients (for example a consultancy or a "human resources" company) then it would be the other way around (they would get the 80%) and i would still be doing the same work.

    Oh yeah, did i mention my income more than doubled when i moved to contracting and went up another 40% during 2 years (even before i moved to the UK).

    The funny part is that if you're really good at what you do, companies are so keen to keep you around (since even as a contrator you're good value for the money) that they keep renewing your contract as long as you want. It's almost the level of job security of being a permanent employee plus having 2-3 times the income of a perm plus the added freedom of no-consequences-moving out of assignments when your're fed up with them (personally, when i want to leave i don't stop in the middle of a contract, i just don't accept the next renewal).

    Honestly, becoming a contractor was the best move i ever did.

    There's a couple of downsides to it (vacations = no pay; sick leave = no pay) and you have to be prepared to take on the risk of a market downturn at which point you might be out of work for several months and might even have to go permanent for a couple of years. Also, if like me you change assignments every 6 months - 1 year, you have to become a bit of a salesment since you will be selling yourself to a bunch of prospective clients anytime you want to change assignments: think of your as CV being your marketing brochure and the job interview as the place and time where you give your sales pitch (just don't overdo it).

    All and all, if you've got the guts (and the savings on the side), the (proven) technical skills and a bit of social/interpersonal skills, contracting is pretty much the only way to stay in the technical career path and still get (middle) management level rewards.

    Oh, yeah, we also get less crap from managers than the permanent employes (sad but true).

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