U.S. Scientists Create Zombie Dogs 1010
Alex_Ionescu writes "U.S. scientists have managed to revive dead dogs to life, by using a technique similar to cryogenation, in which the dogs' blood was drained and replaced by a cold, saline liquid. A couple of hours, their blood was replaced, and an electric shock brought them back to life with no brain damage. The technology will be tested on humans within the next year."
well... (Score:5, Insightful)
The article is somewhat light on facts. From what I recall, during drowning or suffocation, brain damage occurs in humans quite soon (10 minutes?). How is it that this process negates the lack of oxygen to the brain, allowing no damage to occur? Is it the temperature of the liquid used for replacing the blood?
Also, the article has "Although the animals are clinically dead, their tissues and organs are perfectly preserved." followed immediately by "Damaged blood vessels and tissues can then be repaired via surgery." So, which is it?
I suppose we'll have to wait for a real scientific journal to publish this before we find out much more.
Also, another attempt at hibernation, this time in mice [washingtonpost.com], using a different method involving hydrogen sulfide gas.
It bothers me... (drudge) (Score:1, Insightful)
(sigh)
Oh no! (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Not On Me. (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:well... (Score:5, Insightful)
A mortally wounded gunshot victim?
Jesus Christ (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:well... (Score:3, Insightful)
But yeah, definitely need a better story.
Re:death and taxes (Score:4, Insightful)
I call "bullshit" on this article. (Score:2, Insightful)
No medical journal publication?
No details?
Unknown "research" center?
READY TO TEST ON HUMANS IN A YEAR? BULLSHIT. Never would happen. Not in a year, not from one dinky study.
And cold blood would damage the tissues. And I can't imagine how the dog's mind would survive intact, but that's just me.
Or (Score:3, Insightful)
A lot of people would take the risk if it meant being a multi-millionaire.
Even more of there spuse gets them money wether or not the person survives.
I mean, live in squalar, knowing you can't give the best to your kids, ort die but knowing your kids will be able to bebetter taken care of?
Re:well... (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:well... (Score:5, Insightful)
This is the sort of person who will volunteer. A person who has nothing to lose if the procedure fails, but everything to gain if it succeeds.
KFG
P.S. I got better.
High Quality News Source (Score:5, Insightful)
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Drop the story and move on
Re:brains.... brains.... (Score:3, Insightful)
I suppose the serious answer to your question is that they can formulate controlled tests to observe and record the dog's behavior and response to stimuli, both before and after the experiment, and note any discrepancies. (i.e. when presented with a piece of his own shit, the dog chowed down on it before the experiment, but did not do so afterwards.)
With all the experimentation that's already done on dogs, I don't doubt there's already a standard battery of tests to gauge their neurological function.
Love the technology... Stupid reporting... (Score:2, Insightful)
What I would like to know is if they they took a few dogs...
one dog knows "tricks". ( knows how to shake, rollover, sit, laydown )
one that doesn't.
freeze them, reannimate them...
Then verify that the "smart" one still knows the tricks and the "dumb" one doesn't.
In addition they should test for personality changes. Most dog owners know the ways their dogs "personality"...
My two cents.
Personally, I have NO intentions of being frozen, it gets cold enough up here during winter.
Re:well... (Score:1, Insightful)
Surigcal saline is a lot easier to mass produce that collecting blood of the same type as the paitient. I mean you can buy it in super markets if you really wanted (as people with cantact lenses will tell you). And it won't change coagulate like blood would.
Personally I think that because of the extreme nature of the procedure, it would be hard to convince a patient, or their family to accept the procedure unless they were going to die in the very, very near future. Like if they had a gunshot wound. And I supose the army would be free to trial it on any casualties; they have some sort of waiver he soldiers sign, don't they?
The dogs were not dead (Score:3, Insightful)
I don't believe this article... (Score:3, Insightful)
First off: What was the name of the doctor?
You mean to tell me this scientific breakthrough is being reported to the press, and the name of the scientist wasn't reported?
Secondly: Brought back to life with an electric shock?
What is this Young Frankenstein? You have to be kidding me.
Thirdly: Its being reported where?
Can we get some additional sources please? It did happen in the U.S. afterall.
Huh? You're a journalist reporting on a major scientific breakthrough and THAT'S YOUR ONE QUOTE!? Not even a name!? You've got to be kidding me.
Either this is absolute hogwash, or this journalist has the reporting skills of a nine year old.
Either way... I'll wait for better coverage before I get excited.
Re:Here's the scene... (Score:2, Insightful)
Okay, that vid's quite, quite fucked up.
Granted a goldfish doesn't exactly have many braincells to bang together, but that's really rather disturbing.
Re:Ontological argument (Score:4, Insightful)
There is already no evidence for the religious concept of the 'soul'. If you are trying to convince a believer, don't bother. They do not believe based on evidence. The belief in magical, invisible, undetectable, but all-powerful entities is not based on science or anything resembling scientific, logical thinking. It is based on fairy tales usually 'learned' at an age before most humans are able to think critically. If you really want to convince a believer you will need to use a powerful emotional argument, not an evidence-based logical one. Their belief system is such that blind faith, especially in the face of contradictory evidence is considered a great virtue.
Re:ObNethack (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:No brain damage (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Here's the scene... (Score:2, Insightful)
The movie is fish snuff.
Re:well... (Score:3, Insightful)
No can do, Boss. If the saline is not isotonic (same amount of electrolytes per volume as the cells/blood), you have worse problems than brain damage.
If the saline is hypotonic (less electrolytes per volume than the cells), then osmosis will drive water into the cells, eventually bursting them. ALL of them.
If the saline is hypertonic (more electrolytes per volume than the cells), then osmosis will drive water out of the cells, causing them to shrivel up and die. ALL of them.
No win either way.