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Physicists Discover That Gravity Can Create Light (universetoday.com) 109

Researchers have discovered that in the exotic conditions of the early universe, waves of gravity may have shaken space-time so hard that they spontaneously created radiation. Universe Today reports: a team of researchers have discovered that an exotic form of parametric resonance may have even occurred in the extremely early universe. Perhaps the most dramatic event to occur in the entire history of the universe was inflation. This is a hypothetical event that took place when our universe was less than a second old. During inflation our cosmos swelled to dramatic proportions, becoming many orders of magnitude larger than it was before. The end of inflation was a very messy business, as gravitational waves sloshed back and forth throughout the cosmos.

Normally gravitational waves are exceedingly weak. We have to build detectors that are capable of measuring distances less than the width of an atomic nucleus to find gravitational waves passing through the Earth. But researchers have pointed out that in the extremely early universe these gravitational waves may have become very strong. And they may have even created standing wave patterns where the gravitational waves weren't traveling but the waves stood still, almost frozen in place throughout the cosmos. Since gravitational waves are literally waves of gravity, the places where the waves are the strongest represent an exceptional amount of gravitational energy.

The researchers found that this could have major consequences for the electromagnetic field existing in the early universe at that time. The regions of intense gravity may have excited the electromagnetic field enough to release some of its energy in the form of radiation, creating light. This result gives rise to an entirely new phenomenon: the production of light from gravity alone. There's no situation in the present-day universe that could allow this process to happen, but the researchers have shown that the early universe was a far stranger place than we could possibly imagine.

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  • by cmseagle ( 1195671 ) on Thursday April 13, 2023 @03:14AM (#63445970)
    Typically when we say something is "discovered" in physics, the bar is significantly higher than "our equations imply this should be possible". A better headline here would have been the less exciting "physicists predict gravity can create light".
    • They can't discover anything until they can prove their theory is at least plausible through experimentation with data and facts.
  • by bloodhawk ( 813939 ) on Thursday April 13, 2023 @03:22AM (#63445976)
    they have discovered no such thing, they have theorized.
  • by Viol8 ( 599362 ) on Thursday April 13, 2023 @03:23AM (#63445984) Homepage

    Surely gravity at the point of creation was virtually infinite as makes no difference as per the singularity of a black hole - so how could the universe expand? Does there mean theres some force that exists that can overcome even the most powerful gravitational field? Where is it today?

    • by LindleyF ( 9395567 ) on Thursday April 13, 2023 @03:38AM (#63445996)
      There is a distinction between movement in space, which is limited by gravity, and the expansion of space itself, which.....well....who knows.
    • by dfghjk ( 711126 )

      The theory is a mathematical model that predicts measurements that we can make today, but the model cannot be evaluated for any time, only for time AFTER a certain time. You are trying to ascribe characteristics based on a model that is known not to work at the time you are considering.

    • by MightyMartian ( 840721 ) on Thursday April 13, 2023 @11:30AM (#63446766) Journal

      Do you understand what a singularity actually is? It isn't an object, it's a point at which equations break down and start spewing it impossible answers. The reason what lies beyond the event horizon of a black hole is called a singularity is because General Relativity cannot account for conditions of apparent infinite density. The same basic notion applies to the Big Bang, which points to an epoch of seemingly infinite density. The problem at its core is that we have a very good classical explanation for gravity, but we lack a quantum explanation, which is why GR breaks down at such points. Perhaps one day, when we do have a renormalizable explanation for gravity, those singularities will disappear and in their place will be an explanation for what happens in such regions of space-time.

      As to gravity, it is the weakest of the fundamental interactions. To demonstrate that easily, take a pen, hold it up a foot off your desk, and then drop it. Gravity is so astonishingly weak that the pen will bounce because gravity cannot overcome the strong interaction. So while gravity can have the most spectacular effects, like black holes and moons orbiting planets, it is still far weaker than the other interactions.

      And yes, space can expand faster than the speed of light. The speed of light as a limiter only applies to the propagation of fields *in* space (in other words, all matter and energy). It's underlines one of the biggest questions in cosmology; is the open universe open, flat or closed. If it is open then the expansion rate will increase. If it is flat the expansion rate may decline but will never reach 0 or reverse. If it is closed at some point the universe will begin to contract and end in a Big Crunch. Thus far, all evidence points to a positive expansion rate, and more telling, to that expansion rate increasing. In other words, we live in an open universe that will continue expanding until everything dissipates into a dissipated fog of elementary particles and quantum fields, where likely even protons will eventually decay into their constituent quarks and gluons, a sort of low energy mirror image of the earliest universe.

      And it's not for physicists trying to find sufficient matter to produce a closed universe. After all, if there was enough mass in the universe, gravity might act as a brake on the expansion. But alas, it does not appear that there is anywhere near enough matter to have ever had any capacity to overcome the expansion at any point since the Big Bang.

      • by nasch ( 598556 )

        Gravity is so astonishingly weak that the pen will bounce because gravity cannot overcome the strong interaction.

        I think you mean electromagnetism.

      • The problem at its core is that we have a very good classical explanation for gravity, but we lack a quantum explanation, which is why GR breaks down at such points.

        Hm. The Classical explanation for Gravity seems to me to be ... utter garbage. The theory was created through observations, which are accurate, but only done from one perspective. If I have a cylinder in my hands and I hold it at a certain angle, you will see only a rectangle. If I hold that exact same cylinder at another angle, you will see only a circle. Both the rectangle and the circle are "accurate" observations, but bely the true nature of the object, which is indeed a cylinder. Classical science saw

    • Strictly speaking: if a black hole is big enough, and that is true for all of them that we can observer, they all expand.

      And from an inside point of view: there could be a whole universe inside and no one on the outside would know about it.

    • Surely gravity at the point of creation was virtually infinite as makes no difference as per the singularity of a black hole - so how could the universe expand?

      The topic you are looking for is 'inflation'. The Universe expanded faster than the speed of light for a "period of time" during the very early stages of the Universe (according to current theories).

      I guess you could say the original Black Hole kind of exploded. I do not think anyone knows WHY it "exploded".

  • by ArsenneLupin ( 766289 ) on Thursday April 13, 2023 @03:54AM (#63446012)
    Using a swing the "normal" way (i.e. sitting on it and moving legs front-to-back-to-front as they describe) is not parametric resonance, but plain resonance.

    Parametric resonance would be if you stood on the swing and alternatively stood tall and kneeled in the correct rhythm.

    Difference is that plain resonance can excite the system from a standstill, whereas parametric resonance can only amplify a pre-existing oscillation (i.e. it needs an initial push).

    Nice example is the Botafumeiro [youtube.com] in Santiago de Compostela: they have to give it an initial push, or else rhythmically pulling the rope would do nothing (or take much longer).

  • In the beginning, there was light! Turns out the bible is true after all. /s

  • So, what is Quasar?
  • by JoeRobe ( 207552 ) on Thursday April 13, 2023 @07:58AM (#63446240) Homepage

    Gravitational waves are typically weak when they get to us from very far away. But I'm not sure if that makes them inherently weak. They're typically produced by the interaction of extremely heavy objects at extremely high speeds, and then they travel an extremely long distance to get to us. That's a lot of extremes that are in both the numerator and the denominator of however we define wave strength. I wouldn't consider the waves weak if their origin was only a few light years away.

    • Part of what makes them “weak” is the fact the waves themselves are totally unobservable, only the distortion they cause is measurable. Light follows the curvature of space while traveling in a straight line, those curves are bent by gravity and waves just bend them more but light paths will still remain straight from the photons and thus observers perspective. An example are the gravitational lensing used in astronomy, the distortion is played out across space that is visibly symmetrical and
    • They're typically produced by the interaction of extremely heavy objects at extremely high speeds

      That's not true. All massive objects under acceleration produce gravitational waves, just like all accelerating charged objects produce EM waves. For example, Earth orbiting the sun produces gravitational waves. The reason that we have only seen gravitational waves from colliding black holes and neutron stars is exactly that gravitational waves are so incredibly weak and we cannot possibly detect the waves emitted by orbiting planets and stars in our very neighbourhood. We need an insanely bright source wi

      • Specifically it’s because the waves themselves are not measurable, only the distortion which is why they are so small to begin with and drop off linearly with distance unlike light which drops off by the inverse square law.
        • Specifically it’s because the waves themselves are not measurable, only the distortion

          What are you talking about? The periodic distortion of space-time is the wave just like the periodic distortion of the EM field is a photon.

          • What are you talking about? The periodic distortion of space-time is the wave just like the periodic distortion of the EM field is a photon.

            No its not. here [caltech.edu] is a good work up of the differences. Specifically while similar to transverse electromagnetic radiation or dipole radiation but instead of a second order derivative term it depends on the fourth derivative of the quadrupole moment.

            • Yes, that's because it is a spin-2, or tensor field and not a spin-1 vector field like EM but it does not mean it is not a periodic distortion and that's exactly what you measure. This is why LIGO has two arms.
              • Yes, that's because it is a spin-2, or tensor field and not a spin-1 vector field like EM but it does not mean it is not a periodic distortion and that's exactly what you measure. This is why LIGO has two arms.

                What part of the Electric or magnetic field is unobservable? Saying all periodic motion is the same is not exactly accurate, especially when a large part is directly unobservable.

                • What part of the Electric or magnetic field is unobservable?

                  An EM field is as "visible" as gravity. You certainly can't see the magnetic field of e.g. a fridge magnet unless you put matter in the way (like iron filings). That's exactly the same for a gravitational field. Indeed, this is how all detectors work - the field in question interacts with the matter in the detect that produces the signal that we then pick up. The EM coupling is much, much stronger than gravity at typical human scales so the effects of EM fields are readily visible while the effects of grav

  • Now we just need to reverse the process and create gravity from light

  • Perhaps the most dramatic event to occur in the entire history of the universe was inflation.

    Having bought groceries recently, I can definitely say that the inflation in America is dramatic.

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