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Are Zebras White With Black Stripes Or Black With White Stripes? (livescience.com) 67

Zebra stripes are unique to each individual zebra, reports LiveScience, in an article shared by long-time Slashdot reader fahrbot-bot. And even if you look at the three different zebra species, their skin is always the same color: black (according to Tim Caro, a behavioral and evolutionary ecologist and conservation biologist at the University of California, Davis).

But this still doesn't answer the question of whether their fur is black with white stripes or white with black stripes. For that, we have to look to the zebra's melanocytes, or the cells that produce pigment for their fur. Although zebras have black skin, different developmental processes determine their fur color, just like a light-skinned person can have dark hair, Caro said. In fact, zebras actually have more light-colored hair than dark — their bellies are usually light — so it may seem that zebras are white with black stripes.

But that's not the case. Here's why: Every piece of hair — both light and dark — grows from a follicle filled with melanocyte cells, according to a 2005 review in the Journal of Investigative Dermatology. These cells produce a pigment that determines the color of hair and skin. This pigment is known as melanin; a lot of melanin leads to darker colors, like dark brown or black, while less melanin leads to lighter colors, such as hazel or blond, Live Science previously reported. Zebras' black fur is chock-full of melanin, but melanin is absent from white fur, in essence, because the follicles that make up the stripes of white hair have "turned off" melanocytes, meaning they don't churn out pigment.

The production of melanin from melanocytes is "prevented during the development of a white hair, but not of a black hair," Caro told Live Science in an email. In other words, for zebras, the animals' default state is to produce black hair, making them black with white stripes, according to Brittanica.... This unique pattern may keep away biting flies, according to research by Caro and his colleagues. In a study published in 2020 in the journal Proceedings of the Royal Society B, they found that African horseflies landed less frequently on horses wearing striped or checked rugs than they did on horses wearing solid-colored rugs. These biting flies can carry diseases that are fatal to zebras.

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  • by Anonymous Coward
    A Zebra dies and arrives at the Pearly Gates. As he enters, he asks St. Peter, 'I have a question that's haunted me all of my days on earth. Am I white with black stripes, or am I black with white stripes?'
    St. Peter said, 'That's a question only God can answer.'
    So the zebra went off in search of God.
    When he found Him, the zebra asked, 'God, please - I must know. Am I white with black stripes, or am I black with white stripes?'
    God simply replied 'You are what you are.'
    The zebra returned to see St.
    • That's... oddly funny but as someone who studied humor, I can't say what the logic is behind it being funny...and that perplexes me.

      • by quenda ( 644621 )

        I can't say what the logic is behind it being funny...and that perplexes me.

        Writer is probably American, and Americans conflate race with social class.
        "is what you is" is an archaic or regional grammar associated with low education and social class, and hence in the US with black people.

        So it may be funny, but people may find it offensive. Or maybe they just see that as how Black people talk, no judgement, just a dialect variation.

        But when I went to Africa, I noticed something surprising: Zebras are actually brown and white, not black like they appear on TV.

        • Zebras are striped black and white. Not all multi-colored objects have a base coat.
        • Wow. I think you nailed the nature of the joke.

          I mean ebonics is a real thing and I don't think most African Americans consider acknowledging it as offensive but as you said it's the conclusion that this dialect/slang means a person is less educated. Then again a southern accent can get you similar treatment. I think accents take on this kind of "social tiering" in virtually any society. I have heard similar about the UK and China.

          You had to go to Africa to see a Zebra? I have seen them at zoos. I think thi

        • by shanen ( 462549 )

          You got me to look at AC. If he wasn't being racist, then he would have put his name on the "joke". In this case, AC posting can be taken as a clear sign of bad intent. I'm calling "troll".

      • by Anonymous Coward

        Humor is the subversion of expectation.

        As someone who studied "how is X funny" the answer is always the same. I don't mind if people want to decry humor, but pretending it's not mechanically appropriate doesn't work. If the ingredients are co-opted into some joke about rape or baby murder it's still "functional".

        • You post as AC but this is a pretty gross over simplification. There are a few major theories of humor that apply in their own domains. Of those, only one really seems to apply with regard to "subversion of expectation". Reflexive and superiority humor both work differently.

          I made no statement about "mechanically appropriately". I found the joke funny and I wanted a better explanation of the mechanics behind why I would have this feeling. The other poster explains that well. I don't know if I can really hav

    • In the dark, all zebras are gray.
  • Takes us back to this bit from season 3 of Star Trek: https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com] A distinctly droll moment.
  • by Jonathunder ( 105885 ) on Sunday November 21, 2021 @06:12PM (#62008397) Homepage

    Are they black with white stripes, or white with black stripes.

    Yes.

  • by GearheadShemTov ( 208950 ) on Sunday November 21, 2021 @06:34PM (#62008447)

    This is the first I've ever heard that zebra stripes might have anything to do with discouraging biting flies. I have read, however, that any time zoologists have attempted to place tracking devices on individual zebras the tagged zebras inevitably fall prey to predators. Apparently no matter how inconspicuous they made the tracking tags, the tags allowed predators to single tagged zebras out. Rather than chasing a bunch of different zebras because predators usually can't quite track individuals in the herd, tagged animals stand out. They thus get chased relentlessly without other zebras to take the pressure off until they tire and succumb.

  • by redmid17 ( 1217076 ) on Sunday November 21, 2021 @06:35PM (#62008449)
    They're black and white striped animals.
  • Okay, seriously (Score:5, Insightful)

    by 93 Escort Wagon ( 326346 ) on Sunday November 21, 2021 @06:44PM (#62008459)

    Why is this on Slashdot?

  • by Alain Williams ( 2972 ) <addw@phcomp.co.uk> on Sunday November 21, 2021 @06:58PM (#62008479) Homepage

    A superposition of black & white at the same time.

  • Could be they are pink with black and white stripes

  • It's called camo.

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  • how many angles can dance on the head of a pin?

    • by Anonymous Coward

      360.

      Or 720 if you learned about tau.

  • A group of zebras is not a herd, it's called a "dazzle." A dazzle of zebras.
    • by Anonymous Coward

      A group of zebras is not a herd

      This part is false, and frankly, moronic.

      A dazzle of zebras.

      This part is true, that is one of the names from a group of zebras, though one you'll never hear in conversation. There are, however, published examples proving that some few people actually have committed this atrocity.

      Here is an citation that uses both "herd" and "zeal" as collective noun for Zebras.
      https://www.natterandramble.co... [natterandramble.co.uk]

      There can be more than one word for a thing. Making up a new word doesn't make the other words wrong.

  • I remember watching Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa with my kids There is a scene where Alex the lion tells Marty that he is Black with White stripes while all the other zebras are White with Black stripes. So that makes Marty unique and not like everyone else.
  • This is in Japanese and was released 2 years ago and recently updated, but basically... They take cows and pant it to look like a Zebra. Then monitor if flies bite the panted cows or the normal cows (not painted). With evidence and methodology included. Original research from the Government https://www.pref.aichi.jp/sosh... [aichi.jp] News story https://www.watch.impress.co.j... [impress.co.jp]
  • An age old question...such as to-may-tow or to-mah-tow, or the Lady or the Tiger? Or as the great Louis Armstrong put it. [youtube.com] Is the glass half full or half empty? Is it -40 degrees Celsius or Farenheit? (I say its just colder than a witch's tit in a brass brazier).

    I remember as a kid watching (this was the '80's when television educators were the new big thing...) the documentaries that a zebra's stripes were to confuse predators. :)

    Josh K.

    • by pjt33 ( 739471 )

      Given that braziers are for heating things, how much does that narrow down the temperature?

      • Good point. I used the wrong word in error--brazier instead of brassiere. My mistake, or as the rocket scientist said when the space probe went into the Sun checking his FORTRAN--oops, forgot the carry.

        Josh K.

  • "And even if you look at the three different zebra species, their skin is always the same color: black"

    Just like every polar bear, why the surprise?

  • Isn't the obvious solution to this chicken-and-egg problem to find an albino zebra?
  • Truly an earth-shaking conundrum.

  • Does fur color work like that? Or are we trying to make it seem like these are photoshop layers and there is a bottom layer, and then another layer on top?
    I couldn't tell from the summary.
  • “I asked the Zebra,
    are you black with white stripes?
    Or white with black stripes?
    And the zebra asked me,
    Are you good with bad habits?
    Or are you bad with good habits?
    Are you noisy with quiet times?
    Or are you quiet with noisy times?
    Are you happy with some sad days?
    Or are you sad with some happy days?
    Are you neat with some sloppy ways?
    Or are you sloppy with some neat ways?
    And on and on and on and on and on and on he went.
    I’ll never ask a zebra about stripes...again.”

    Shel Silverstein

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