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Elon Musk Co-Authors COVID-19 Paper Accepted For Publication In 'Nature' (livemint.com) 64

Slashdot reader Rei writes: On 15 February, 2021, the paper Discrete SARS-CoV-2 antibody titers track with functional humoral stability was accepted for publication by the prestigious journal Nature — interesting not only for being a large-cohort study on COVID-19 reinfection, but for the presence of one of its coauthors: one Elon Reeve Musk. According to reporting, Musk — concerned in April 2020 with maintaining the schedule for the SpaceX crewed launch in May and wanting to make sure that an outbreak wouldn't set back plans — contacted academic researchers and worked with them to set up an antibody testing research programme. Over 4,000 SpaceX employees volunteered and were provided with periodic free testing at work to look for infection and monitor previously-infected people for reinfection. The programme gave SpaceX an advance heads up about upcoming threats, such as the growing wave in Texas in June, and continues to this day, with a new focus on mutant COVID strains.

The primary results of the study? Past infection provides a strong, although not perfect, barrier to reinfection; the level of antibodies strongly indicate the level of risk of reinfection; and this bodes well for vaccines, which tend to result in much higher antibody levels than infection.

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Elon Musk Co-Authors COVID-19 Paper Accepted For Publication In 'Nature'

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  • by nospam007 ( 722110 ) * on Sunday February 21, 2021 @02:35PM (#61086722)

    "The primary results of the study? Past infection provides a strong, although not perfect, barrier to reinfection"

    That also the reason why in some places health professionals who have had contacts with many infected and have lots of antibodies, those make a riot when these people are vaccinated.
    In some places vaccinated health professionals can't work for a couple of days.

    When I was vaccinated against tuberculosis 50 years ago, I had to endure 2 antibody tests in the weeks before to avoid a strong reaction.
    Perhaps for doctors and nurses they should do that again?

    • "The primary results of the study? Past infection provides a strong, although not perfect, barrier to reinfection"

      So... just like all those other cold and flu viruses then?

    • As far as Musk is concerned, the primary result of the study is that he'll get his very own Erdos number. Color me "not impressed". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org] (And yes, I checked. As of now, Musk has no Erdos number. A couple of my friends are under 5... One of them might be a 2 or 3. (Unlike Musk, I wasn't ever willing to accept a coauthor citation for my minor assistance.))

      Seems to me like all self-proclaimed advanced countries should be doing large-scale antibody testing as part of all routine blo

      • "Unlike Musk, I wasn't ever willing to accept a coauthor citation for my minor assistance"

        Easy to say, because nobody ever asked you.

        • by shanen ( 462549 )

          Why do you [722110] like lying? Does it make you think you have value? Do you think you are fooling someone? Anyone?

          However, the "exchange" did remind me of a case when I did coauthor a minor piece in IEEE Computer. Still didn't get an Erdos Number for it.

          All in all I think it is safe to regard this "discussion" as terminated.

  • One of 30 authors (Score:5, Informative)

    by gweihir ( 88907 ) on Sunday February 21, 2021 @03:05PM (#61086812)

    That is a "courtesy" listing, not an actual authorship.

    • Re:One of 30 authors (Score:5, Informative)

      by Sepulep ( 3660305 ) on Sunday February 21, 2021 @03:39PM (#61086894)
      well, the author contriutions are listed, he is said to have "managed sample and data collection" and (co-)"designed the study."
      • by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

        well, the author contriutions are listed, he is said to have "managed sample and data collection" and (co-)"designed the study."

        What was there to study?

        Elon Musk denies COVID-19 exists and doesn't believe it's a dangerous virus. So why did he even bother studying it?

        Heck, he's even admitted he's not going to get vaccinated.

        • by gweihir ( 88907 )

          well, the author contriutions are listed, he is said to have "managed sample and data collection" and (co-)"designed the study."

          What was there to study?

          Elon Musk denies COVID-19 exists and doesn't believe it's a dangerous virus. So why did he even bother studying it?

          Heck, he's even admitted he's not going to get vaccinated.

          Well, in that case, he should be removed from the author list for scientific misconduct.

    • Musk is sure is good at PR...

    • But, par for the course.

      He did authorize some funding and cooperation from Space X. Most of the particle physics papers or telescope astronomy papers might have longer author lists than the length of the paper. Every technician in the collider or telescope complex, and their bosses and the directors automatically get listed as authors.

      5000 author paper [wordpress.com]

      • This is the 5000 author paper discussion. [nature.com] The other one is just another rant about it. Cant find the actual paper though, might have been pay walled. Those authors got to eat, don't they? They depend on the pay wall royalties ....
        • You are sorely mistaken if you think authors (or co-authors) make a dime off of papers they've published. Usually the primary authors have to pay to submit the paper for publication, then it is, selected by unpaid volunteer editors, peer-reviewed by unpaid volunteer scientists, then "published" on a website that charges people to read it.

          The only people making any money at all out of the process are the "publishers". They are a tax on humanity that should be eliminated.

      • by ceoyoyo ( 59147 )

        I have lots of co-authors who didn't know the work was being done, didn't ever respond to a request to review the manuscript and had to be chased down to give their disclosures for the submission. They'd be right pissed off if they weren't included as authors though.

    • By "actual authorship" do you mean stringing words together to describe what happened? Not unimportant, but having the idea and doing the research is really the main thing. If Musk had the idea to do this in this way and it wouldn't have happened without him, then it's not just courtesy.
      • by gweihir ( 88907 )

        Nope. Musk basically provided funds and access to people. That gets listed under "Acknowledgements", but with sound scientific standards, it does not get you a place on the list of authors.

  • Musk's program is definitely forward-thinking... but I'm not seeing how it should result in a co-authorship on the paper.

    But then, now that I think about it... the problem of scientific papers having (at times) dozens of co-authors - some of whom do very little - is not a new thing. And I wonder if one of the lead authors said "boy it sure would be cool to co-author a paper with Elon Musk...".

    • Musk's program is definitely forward-thinking... but I'm not seeing how it should result in a co-authorship on the paper.

      "Based on current trends, probably close to zer new cases in US too be end of April"

      I dunno, that's exactly the kind of forward thinker I'd want to co-author my papers!

  • Except you go "ELON MUSK!!!"

    Next up: "Elon Musk chose this kind of toilet paper at the store. Read all about it here!"

    I don't hate the guy, and wish him all the best (provided that it's good for us too). I just think he's acting like an attention whore (usually due to how his parents treated the child(, and you're feeding it, which if it's the right diagnosis, isn't good for him. News about achieving something with SpaceX are alright. This shit here is pathetic.

  • No tests were available, so he contacts academics to offer his staff for an experiment in which they are tested (and for free, although that's peanuts for SpaceX). He launches the rocket in time and is listed as one of the authors of the paper. This is the sort of attitude of 'making things happen' that pushes the companies forward. Kudos on this one.

    • by marcle ( 1575627 )

      That's my take on it too. Helps his company, supports his employees, and is also of benefit to the general population. Certainly self-serving, but not narrowly greedy. You could call it, I dunno, enlightened self-interest.

    • It's better than that. The "currency" of science is a citation. Nature is a highly regarded journal because they tend to publish papers that they think will be highly cited (and they're usually correct).

      By publishing in Nature, AND by having Musk as a co-author, the academics on this study are going to see a nice boost to their citations.

      So: good for SpaceX business, good for employees, good for the academics doing the test, and good for our understanding of COVID in general (I'm a scientist, and if I cou

  • Musk deserves credit (Score:5, Interesting)

    by FeelGood314 ( 2516288 ) on Sunday February 21, 2021 @04:53PM (#61087134)
    This is a high quality granular study that many others can use to make policy decisions and better models. The study's main requirements were money, logistics, coordination, management support and clear goals. Do you not think Elon Musk contributed to all of those? Even better the study 's goals where to help Musk's companies not to further a political end so I would put a higher level of trust in the results.
  • Fuck your weasel words.

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