Americans Are Having Less Sex Than 20 Years Ago, Study Finds (arstechnica.com) 391
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: American adults reported having nine fewer romps a year in the early 2010s than they did in the late 1990s -- dropping from an average of about 62 times a year between 1995 and 2000 to around 53 a year between 2010 and 2014. Researchers saw declines across ages, races, religions, education levels, employment statuses, and regions. They linked the sagging numbers to two trends: an increase in singletons over that period -- who tend to have less sex than married or partnered people -- plus a slow-down in the sex lives of married and coupled people. But the drivers of those trends are still unclear. The study is based on data from a long-standing national survey called the General Social Survey (GSS). It involves a nationally representative sample of Americans over 18 years old, surveyed most years between 1972 and 2014. The new study involved responses from 26,620 Americans. Specifically, researchers found that married people's annual whoopee frequency dropped from an average of nearly 69 in the 1995-2000 period to just below 56 in the 2010-2014 period. The unmarried saw their lovemaking drop from 54 per year to 51 in the same timeframes. Meanwhile, the number of people without steady partners -- married or otherwise -- rose from 26 percent of survey respondents in 2006 to 33 percent in 2014. People who took the biggest hits in the bedroom since the 1990s were those with a college degree (about 15 fewer times a year) and people living in the South (about 13 fewer times a year). The study has been published in the journal Archives of Sexual Behavior.
Theory number one: (Score:3)
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They don't need fapping lotion in places where men have normal (non-mutilated) dicks.
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You masturbate by rubbing your penis inside the "non-mutilated" flappy bits? Why do you hate yourself so much?
Get some lube, regardless what your penis looks like, it'll only feel several orders of magnitude better.
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Uhh, actually sales of lubricant is higher in countries where circumcision is less-practiced. Dry-dogging simply sucks.
I worked in porn. I've done a LOT of shipping internationally. USA exports more lube than it imports.
Close.. (Score:5, Insightful)
Too much Fa(r)cebook.
Seriously, the number of people who spend all their relaxation time buried in that pile of steaming shite
and ignoring their partner is just astounding, no wonder no intimacy happens....
Especially, I have to say it sorry, women. Many seem to spend much of their lives following all the other
women they know, and thinking that everyone else lives a better life than them (while also themselves
only posting the highlights of their own lives there, as glamorized as possible..).
Ignoring the usual 'no one on slashdot actually has physical relations' jokes, that really is the problem,
people are just becoming emotionally detached through not enough face to face time, so is anyone
actually surprised they are having less sex?
Trying to explain it to someone caught up in that BS though is like pulling the pin on a hand grenade, then
deciding its juggling time.. They will violently claim they dont spend 'that much' time on there, and that
anyway its only to keep in touch with their friends, and that it has no impact on their happiness or relationship.
That much denial is a scary thing...
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Bingo! (Score:5, Insightful)
Too much Fa(r)cebook. ...
Seriously, the number of people who spend all their relaxation time buried in that pile of steaming shite
and ignoring their partner is just astounding, no wonder no intimacy happens
Especially, I have to say it sorry, women. Many seem to spend much of their lives following all the other
women they know, and thinking that everyone else lives a better life than them (while also themselves
only posting the highlights of their own lives there, as glamorized as possible..).
Bingo!
I totally second that. Had precisely that experience with my last attempt to build a feasible relationship.
People need a basic ettiquette when it comes to social media and smartphones. Smartphone, tablet and laptop off when you're having quality time with your SO is my rule.
Facebook is not a social network, it's a global mental illness.
Re:Close.. (Score:5, Interesting)
Too much Fa(r)cebook.
Seriously, the number of people who spend all their relaxation time buried in that pile of steaming shite and ignoring their partner is just astounding, no wonder no intimacy happens.... Especially, I have to say it sorry, women.
Its a little more than that, but that is certainly a part of it. I blame the smart phone. I thought I had a great marriage right up until my wife got an Iphone. Now admittedly I do spend a little too much time with computers and music gear. So I wasn't that worried about it when my wife first got her Iphone, but 6 months later I was genuinely lonely, felt ignored, felt like I could not a have a decent conversation with her, and its been a battle since. I try to have a conversation with her, she has to check this thing and wont give the courtesy of putting it away for all of it. I try to go places and do things with it -- we could be at an incredibly fancy restaurant sans kids and still has to whip this one (and yes, it might be limited to a brief snap of this to post about it, but its often not), I have sex with her and 30 seconds later that blue light is on. I can't even watch a movie with her without her checking it.
I even took the step of introducing a high voltage static discharge into her prior one. She simply bought another within hours. She is not a morning person, so to see her sprint up even before I did to rush out to the Apple store was disheartening. Coming up upon a decade and I decided to file for divorce now rather than risk my retirement to it.
Some people may have a less intense reaction to it than I do. It depends upon what speaks to you about being loved and feeling loved. For me its no different than choosing crack cocaine over your partner. 16 years together, the last 10 of them married.
Re: Close.. (Score:3, Interesting)
I feel ya.
My first marriage also died a horrible death under a blue glow. Not a word at the restaurant table for texting under the table. Even better I found she was hooking up with old flames.
(I'm not against that but don't don the life jacket before the soup arrives, and let the other passengers know please)
I guess I should have read that from the mass panic of "zomgz I need to get a phone before we fly out". I've really never seen so much panic at the hands of potentially not having a web connection. She
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Too much Fa(r)cebook.
I think you'll find pornhub and xhamster, et al. get far more traffic than facebook.
Re:Theory number one: (Score:4, Interesting)
I can save the "reserachers" a lot of time: People are having less sex because they're not as bored as before.
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The UK went on the three day week in Q1 1974 due to various strikes and supposedly there was a mini baby-boom later.
Distractions (Score:5, Interesting)
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Hardest hit were those with a college degree so probably more to do with worklife balance. But the real story here is the annual average for married couples dropped from 69.
Re:Distractions (Score:5, Interesting)
Also fear. Vague, insidious fear which turns people off.
For decades the media has been dripping vague fears into our collective souls. fear of disease, of being mugged, attacked, bombed, fear of weather, fear of you-name-it. People have become risk-adverse for reasons they most times can't even name.
"Let's not engage in X activity!" "Why?" "Because it's dangerous!"
I've seen kids on trikes wearing more protection than a SWAT team member. I've seen people afraid to go for a swim because "this lake might be polluted". Eating fish at a restaurant? "It might have too much mercury". Inviting a co-worker out? "they might report me to HR for sexual harassment".
People are more fearful of this and that than ever. It's collective madness.
Re:Distractions (Score:5, Insightful)
When there are no more second chances, people stop taking the first chance.
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Nice conjecture. I somehow doubt that gay people are bringing the average down. Wasn't the original complaint that we were having too much sex (like over 500 partners a year)?
You can call it truth if you want. It sounds more like a hypothesis that you want to believe is true.
Re:Worse (Score:4, Insightful)
I blame gay marriage, its well known marriage results in less sex!
Thats the reason I Never could work out why the religious right were so against it!
Re:Worse (Score:4, Insightful)
They are a destructive force that will call your employers, their bosses and shame the company into firing you whether or not you were actually guilty. Many of these degenerates just get off on ruining peoples lives just for ruining lives.
Re:Worse (Score:4, Insightful)
Is unfair to actual liberals. Do a quick look up of "liberal" in the dictionary. The regressive left are anything BUT liberal. They are in fact bigots, who, ironically, call anyone that disagrees with them a bigot.
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I truly stand corrected. I will fix this tomorrow.
Thanks!
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They are in fact bigots
If we are being technical, your dislike of the "regressive left" is bigotry.
But a more practical definition is hatred of some group for reasons beyond their control, such as race or gender. In that case, neither you nor the "regressive left" are bigots, you just have philosophical and political disagreements.
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Re:Worse (Score:4)
Listen, and understand. SJWs are out there. They canâ(TM)t be bargained with. They canâ(TM)t be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And they absolutely WILL NOT stop. Ever. Until your career is dead.
Re: Worse (Score:3, Funny)
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And with "if you look at me in the wrong way you are a rapist" style feminism.
Seriously, if you have experienced that "style" of feminism in person (as opposed to on social media), I suspect the problem may be your demeanor.
Re:Distractions (Score:5, Insightful)
Sure, and anyone who experienced and complained about mccarthyism must be a soviet supporting red, right? A friend of mine had to deal with false accusations so I know for sure that this kind of feminism exists (and I know they are false accusations for sure, because the girl herslef said they are false, the accusations were made by a third-side feminist who thought she knew better than both of them).
Example from Higher Education (Score:4, Insightful)
the girl herslef said they are false, the accusations were made by a third-side feminist who thought she knew better than both of them
Just so folks can see a concrete, verifiable example of this kind of thing . . .
Two adult students have consensual sex; third parties decide otherwise, including the university. The male student is suspended before they even do him the courtesy of a show trial, ruining his education, athletic career, and (potential) medical career.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
This is how the "rape culture" myth does irreparable harm, with college students getting the worst of it through abuse of Title IX.
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I have an Ex-Wife that would cheat, and then claim it was rape if she was caught. I have had a few friends put in jail that way.
She'd call me up bragging about it. Then call me how scared she was the guy's wife found out, claim it was rape in front of her. Ruin the relationship, get him put in jail and they'd become 'best buds'.
No joke.
Re:Example from Higher Education (Score:4, Insightful)
And you did nothing? I think you are lying.
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That's not the scenario the poster is positing. He's talking about women who treat him as a rapist because of the way he looks at them.
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And in how many cases, the victim is pressured to falsely withdraw a true claim of rape? It happens. How often? Nobody knows because no one in a suitable position wants to gather such statistics. Just like other statistics that show the police in a bad light are not collected.
Read this case [themarshallproject.org] in which a woman who was proven to be the victim of rape was let down by the police, forced to withdraw her claim, prosecuted for a false report, yet was eventually vindicated.
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I am not denying that such cases exist, I am just claiming that saying automatically that everyone who is antifeminist or believes in false accusations is automatically a rapist himself is wrong.
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Which is precisely why we need to use the old common law definition of rape. Which requires either a whiteness or a whiteness immediately after the fact who can testify to distress and injury that occurred. Rape is a very very serious crime and it should prosecuted and punished most severely!
People need to understand though that if you either don't physically resist or there isn't a whiteness to the fact that you did not have any choice or both than its not rape. Which is not say it can't be a lessor c
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You didn't read that article, did you? Or you did not read it through.
One of the most important facts that the article exposes is that people who are raped don't always show the reactions that would be commonly expected.
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No, but there are lots of creepy men.
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And lots of creepy women. I have this "chauvinistic" opinion that men and women are similar and mostly equal, creepiness is no exception.
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1) And lots of creepy women. I have this "chauvinistic" opinion that men and women are similar and mostly equal, creepiness is no exception.
2) I think many of these creepy men call themselves feminists nowadays.
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Seriously, if you have experienced that "style" of feminism in person (as opposed to on social media), I suspect the problem may be your demeanor.
Clearly you haven't visited a university campus in the last decade. Even professors will act that way. There is a reason why the percentage of men in college, let alone graduating, is below 40% and dropping every year.
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When was the last time you went to college? 1982? I suspect the lack of current data is on your side.
For me it was 1969. Did you know that college students had sex back then? With each other even, and no Junior Anti-Sex League campus tribunal to stop them? And lots and lots of it, too.
I see only too clearly what today's problem is.
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With you, maybe.
Re:Distractions (Score:5, Insightful)
He hates the fags and he hates the godless. Of both of them there are too many.
Then why does He keep making them?
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That doesn't explain the decrease for people with partners/spouses very well.
Re:Distractions (Score:5, Funny)
You probably tip your fedora too much.
I downloaded it at no additional charge.
this VR thing (Score:2)
Americans Are Having Less Sex... (Score:5, Funny)
...because people are evolving from homo sapiens into shpherical sapiens.
One really simple, obvious cause: (Score:2)
"Syfy" started making "Sci-Fi" again. And yes, some of it is even good. You're welcome. :-)
Numbers are skewed (Score:5, Funny)
Do these figures include jacking it to Hentai?
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American men prefer the cartoons of Peter getting cucked by Lois and Cleveland.
Ummm (Score:2)
Correllation (Score:4, Insightful)
Porn (Score:3)
Men tend to initiate sex much more than women do. Men also tend to watch porn much more than women do. So I have a hunch the ease of access to porn has resulted in men getting their gratification alone while watching porn, thus less sex is taking place. Additionally the normal, average woman does not compare to your typical porn star, which may also result in men developing unrealistic standards and thus not having sex with their partner as much due to higher expectations.
Re:Porn (Score:5, Interesting)
No, that's silly. The frequency of sex has to do with both people (and their respective schedules), and whether they actually communicate their needs to each other. When I watch porn it just makes me want to fuck the living crap out of my wife all the more.. that being said, I have to pay attention carefully to the signals, and do some things I normally don't really think about or feel like doing. As an added bonus, she's finally found her g-spot, and does this crazy thing with her hips, well.. whoosh!
Also, "the average woman does not compare..."; in what way? Doesn't she have a brain, and all the other naughty bits? I've been with stunning girls who were like cold limp beef in bed, and grey-skinned Turkish pig-women who were completely fucking hot. It's all in your minds, my friends.. Average is far far better than none.
It's like the weather: When it's crappy out, I remind myself that it's better than no weather at all.
Re:Porn (Score:4, Funny)
Re: Porn (Score:2, Insightful)
Too many women nowadays fall short of "average" standards, even, and rather than try to do something about it, they go "healthy at every size" (fuckin bullshit too).
Re: Porn Faster, People Fatter (Score:2)
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Men tend to initiate sex much more than women do. Men also tend to watch porn much more than women do. So I have a hunch the ease of access to porn has resulted in men getting their gratification alone while watching porn, thus less sex is taking place. Additionally the normal, average woman does not compare to your typical porn star, which may also result in men developing unrealistic standards and thus not having sex with their partner as much due to higher expectations.
Blaming it all on men is a bit unfair. Women also have unrealistic expectations. The regular average man also compares poorly to movie actors, pop stars and professional athletes which may be another contributing factor. People these days have a very unrealistic expectation of what their ideal partner should look like, what they themselves look like, and people generally seem to spend so much time fussing over what what the person they are currently dating looks like that they forget to think about what kin
How is this in any way (Score:2)
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It's money (Score:5, Insightful)
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So, you need money to date your own GF or to have sex with her?
Oh, your dating culture must be quite strange.
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Ok. Some empirical science.
Suggest to your GF that, this weekend, you stay home, go no where, and have sex.
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Has always worked for me...
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Answer to the wrong parent?
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Um, how do you get a GF to have sex with? Generally you start by going out on dates with women.
That is kind of the whole point of dating.
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You're talking about what we diplomatically call 'negotiable affection', here? There are other ways as well, you know. I'm not sure lack of money is the reason people have less sex; people often huddle together in times of stress, and sometimes they do more than huddle, since sex is an effective way to release stress, so I would expect there to be more sex. If you are in a relationship, sex is one of the more enjoyable things you can do, which don't cost money. My suspicion is that it has more to do with ob
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Food is cheaper, houses are bigger, cars come packed with more tech, I have a supercomputer in my pocket, instant communications with everyone and everything are available 24/7 in my pocket, and I've got more access to medical care and entertainment--and spend more of my budget on these things.
Americans at all income levels--especially the poorer and middle-class--have easier access to basic needs and spend more of their money on entertainment and on previously-inadequately-fulfilled needs (e.g. buying m
Less married couples (Score:4, Interesting)
The dirty little secret that Hollywood movies never told you is that married people have way more sex than singles. This drop in sexy times correlates to the drop in married couples in general (as the article cites). If you want to get it regular, put a ring on it and work to have a good relationship with your spouse.
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Well, he didn't say the "more sex" married people have was with each other, to be fair.
You're welcome (Score:5, Funny)
Have you seen what Americans look like nowdays? (Score:2)
A hope (Score:2, Interesting)
A part of me hopes that men in the US, much like those in Japan, are waking up to the terror that is false rape allegations, divorce and family law. Being aware of what *could* happen is like taking 100 ice cold showers while watching an old Richard Simmons workout tape.
Men; you have guilty. If it's your word against hers, I hope you can comfortably reach your ankle.
No wonder ... (Score:2)
... that dating sites are full with sex hungry people. (Who are often pretty strange in human interaction)
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Sounds really low (Score:5, Interesting)
I'm closing on 60 and still averaging over 150 a year (and about 9 hours a week). One may be related to the other-- sex may be of less value to average folks who take 3 to 15 minutes, half the women don't have an orgasm, etc.
Biggest suggestion I can make is to have your setup where the man can stand-- I prefer a inexpensive massage table. The height is adjustable. If she wants to ride cowboy, you can still lay down on it. It's comfortable but not so soft that you are fighting a mattress that's absorbing all your energy.
But for the guy- doing a 2 hour pushup is much harder than dancing for 2 hours.
Next, I'd say to guys *always* make sure she has an orgasm. Your orgasm is actually the optional one if you want to have a lot of sex- not hers.
And as you get older, look into tantric sex. But a little denial will actually make your interest stronger. And induces you to naturally be nice to her, complement her, etc.
I see so many couples who kill their sex lives thru random rejection. That's just a really deadly trap. One asks the other for sex and is rejected. After a few iterations, they stop asking.
To the women, I'd say- guys need to feel special and you gotta flatter them. That doesn't mean putting on lingerie and expecting them to get aroused. That works on 20 year olds but it fails against football and video games even for 28 year olds much less 30 year olds. Don't believe, "All I have to do is show up naked". No. You need to flirt. You need to touch. You need to express interest. Sure- he needs to do the same. But the male ego is a real thing. And even if he thinks he wants it- if his ego is torn up, the rocket isn't launching. Penetrative sex isn't the only show in town but it is the most important to many couples (and even women who feel validated that the male rose to the occasion).
To both sides: Brush and floss your teeth. A mouth that smells like decay isn't sexy. I don't even think I've ever seen a rule of 34 for that. For other body odors and scents- you need to talk to your partner and find out what they like. Antiseptic is good for some, but a little humanity is good for others and some folks like it ripe.
Anyway.. sounds like a really low rate. It's a wonderful human activity and can be a lot of fun.
Good for you! (Score:3)
I'm closing on 60 and still averaging over 150 a year (and about 9 hours a week).
Lucky bastard. ... Good for you.
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Averaging 150 times per year = ~3 times per week, so 9 hours per week = ~3 hours each time. That sounds more like an addiction instead of genuinely, fully enjoying that all the way through and just happening to take that amount of time. Very few people have 3 hours to spend 3 times a week after they've got home from their long day at work, got the kids fed, washed and asleep and tended to their own personal needs.
I'd look towards blaming long work hours, lower average pay and fast ubiquitous access to the I
Oy vey, "addiction" (Score:3)
Honestly, that is hilarious. I had to put my coffee down. You literally have no idea what you're saying. Addiction... for indulging in a basic human need. Good grief. You really need to find a new metaphor for people doing things they enjoy and likely do well.
My advice is to put a lot of effort into losing the psychobabble (also put down the cellphone[s] if that's wh
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I'm very happy with my sex life, but thanks for going straight for the strawman and ad hominem all-in-one.
I know exactly what I'm saying: that spending 3 hours on average having sex every single time is just so far to the right of the bell-curve it can't even see the middle any more. That's also not accounting for sex being off-the-table 1 week out of every 4 for most men in monogamous relationships, plus things like times when you are ill, one of you is away without the other (e.g. a business trip) or if y
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You may very well be happy with your own sex life, but you were the one who threw "sounds like addiction" on the table in response to a quite positive post about someone else's sex life, which indicates 100% clearly that you are sans clue and paddle with regard to the sex lives of others.
Feel free to protest all you want. You're still wrong.
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There's no evolutionary need for nine hours a week. What every sexologist has discovered is that people are different. While I wouldn't necessarily call it an addiction, I wouldn't rule it out, either.
Besides, most people informally use the word 'addiction' to imply that moderation has departed the building (presumably under a dark cloud) and I think that's what was intended here.
If sex caused weight gain the same way excess sugar intake causes weight gain,
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Evolution is not always (or even, often) the arbiter of normal human behavior. Sexuality is a complex personal and social component. It can't be reduced to evolutionary talking points.
Imprecision and inaccuracy are rampant in the population at large. That is one reason (though not the only one) why we see such words as addiction being profoundly misused. However
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Obligatory AmazingSuperPowers comic (Score:2)
Seemed kinda relevant....
http://www.amazingsuperpowers.... [amazingsuperpowers.com]
The best birth control (Score:5, Insightful)
Speak for yourself (Score:2)
Stress/Anxiety from working too much (Score:3)
People are working more hours than they used to 20 years ago. When stress and anxiety increases, fight or flight response kicks in releasing all kinds of chemicals like cortisol. What this does is it shuts down parts of the body that it deems unnecessary in preparation to fight. These are things like digestion and reproductive functions among other things. I can't wait to see the news stories of the 90's come around again over the concern that Americans aren't having enough children. America has family values? Ha!
And Even Less Sex Than Forty Years Ago (Score:3)
If I told young people how much sex we had in the seventies, they wouldn't even believe it. The eighties were pretty good, too, and I understand the sixties were, as well. We are living in very conservative times, yet many seem not to realize it. Also, kids, still waiting for you to move on from Punk Rock and create something new in Rock.
Improved economic opportunities for women (Score:5, Interesting)
As women move further up the ladder economically they are less and less dependent on men. While women still have their own inherent sexual drive, their sex drive is lower than men for a variety of reasons -- when they are younger, due to the inherent risks of pregnancy and child-rearing, and as they age, due to the decline in fertility and the increased risks of childbirth that come with aging.
I think there's all kinds of evolutionary biology that suggests that sex drive in women is tied to the availability a reliable provider. Pregnant women and women with small children have much greater survival vulnerability -- reduced mobility, increases in risks from physical threats, increased nutritional requirements for both them and any offspring too young to participate in food gathering. And this remains true whether you're talking about a hunter-gatherer community or contemporary American economics -- pregnancy and child-bearing are significant drags on female economic advancement in our economy.
Not only does having a reliable economic provider create the conditions for reduced child-bearing risk and increase innate sex drive, it also creates an environment where women are more likely to meet male sexual demands because of their economic dependency. They have both fewer disincentives for sexual activity and incentives to meet their partners demands for sexual contact even when their own sexual desire thresholds aren't met.
I think this goes some way to explaining why conservatives favor traditional female roles -- increased female dependency leads to increased male access to sexuality.
The way to improve the sagging sexual numbers in the US is probably much stronger economic rights for pregnant women (reduce economic risks associated with pregnancy). It won't help women at the end or past their fertility, though, since nature is already doing its job to reduce desire via declining hormones to prevent high risk pregnancies or because pregnancy is not possible.
53 a year! (Score:2)
Man I'm in for one hell of a December!
Did everyone forget the obvious (Score:2)
Two things (Score:2)
First, men are masturbating to easily available Internet porn (and women also to some extend). It's hard to get hard on with a real woman when you have ejaculated to 10x more beautiful and younger girl just yesterday and you have a completely new such girl awaiting you behind a couple of clicks.
Two, women are getting fatter and fatter. Men are visual and a normal girl these days have such a fat asses that you need to look the other way to maintain an erection. Or at least I need to. I tried to have sex with
More geeks, less sex (Score:2)
That's because there are more geeks now than 20 years ago. Duh. And geeks don't get to have sex. It's like some kind of unwritten law. Or maybe it is written, I haven't bothered to google that.
54 times per year? (Score:2)
Holy crud... I'd settle for 54 in a lifetime.
Speculation (Score:3)
Didn't read the article, but here's my speculation on potential factors...
Factor 1...With a higher percentage of women working, I'd bet they aren't feeling romantic as often after a day at the office.
Factor 2...Less disposable income. The Great Recession caused a lot of financial strain, and likely many arguments among couples...more stress, less sex.
Factor 3...Aging population.
Factor 4...More self absorbed, or internet distracted population.
Re:No kidding (Score:5, Funny)
I'm definitely having less sex than I did 20 years ago!
Please tell me you're not 23.
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And the average American man isn't doing much better.