How To Prove Someone Is Female? 1091
krou writes "Caster Semenya won the 800m at the World Athletics Championship in blistering style, leaving her competitors in the dust, but she has been thrown into the midst of a scandal amidst claims that she's not really a woman. According to the many press reports, she's believed to shave, is flat chested, has a very masculine physique, previously preferred playing physical games with boys, and shunned traditional female activities and clothing. Questions about her gender have dogged her entire career. Previously, acceptance that she is a women relied on simple inspection of female genitals. But now the IAAF claim that they want to conduct further tests to see if 'she may have a rare medical condition that gives her an unfair advantage.' An IAAF spokesmen noted that 'The [testing] process was started after Semenya made her startling breakthroughs — a 25-second improvement at 1500m and eight seconds at 800m, just some weeks ago.' I'm curious what the Slashdot community thinks: what can be considered proof of someone being male or female? Is it simply a case of having the right genitals, or are there other criteria that should be used? Is the IAAF right in claiming that someone should be prevented from competing because they have a rare medical or genetic advantage?"
Make them write some code (Score:4, Funny)
... and see how it pans out.
Easy (Score:3, Funny)
This is /. (Score:3, Funny)
I doubt most people here would have experience with that.
(sorry, just a bad joke.)
Re:Obvious solution (Score:3, Funny)
As a general rule, if you can't tell what she is, then run.
Re:Obvious solution (Score:5, Funny)
If you can make love to her, then she is a woman (provided that you know where you put your willy in)...
... or, if she uses the term "make love" for the act, she is a woman.
I can do the opposite (Score:3, Funny)
If you ever posted here, you know you are not a REAL female. You may even look like one, but you know, deep inside, you have big question mark lingering. Don't you!
Simple Test: (Score:3, Funny)
Kick them in the nuts really hard. If they don't fold over in pain and whimper an octave higher, they're female.
easy (Score:3, Funny)
just ask "asl?"
Turing Test (Score:2, Funny)
Question:
Have you gained weight?
Answers:
Yeah, I should hit the gym. - Male
Whaaa... you don't love me anymore! - Female
Two words: (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Easy (Score:2, Funny)
It's quite easy, actually - I'd imagine it's the slapping and the police involvement afterwards that's the hard part.
Re:Gender isn't sex. (Score:5, Funny)
Nature has its own laws, which are not the laws of men.
Exactly, they are the laws of women.
Probably not that difficult (Score:4, Funny)
Considering that there are plenty of creatures which can be hermaphrodites
We aren't talking about clown fish here. That would be a red herring. (Sorry couldn't resist the pun.)
there are rare genetic variations ... this is a difficult point. Where do you draw the line?
An interesting question, but probably not relevant to this particular case. We know we want to draw the line between XX and XY. Test her. If she is XX, then female. If XY, then male. It only needs to be an issue if she turns up as XXY or XYY something else.
Re:Simple... if "Y" chromosome found = male (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Easy (Score:0, Funny)
Asks for directions? (Score:5, Funny)
FUTURAMA Episode (Score:3, Funny)
Re:I can do the opposite (Score:5, Funny)
If you ever posted here, you know you are not a REAL female. You may even look like one, but you know, deep inside, you have big question mark lingering. Don't you!
Nope. Still got tits. I think the problem is on your end.
Pretty simple test (Score:4, Funny)
Does she go to the bathroom alone or with two friends?
How much time does she spend in the shoe store?
Does the battery of her mobile phone last more than a day?
Re:Bloody difficult. (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Same happend in 1950 with Foekje Dillema (Score:5, Funny)
Her name was Dilemma?
Re:Bloody difficult. (Score:5, Funny)
Right? Look at any NBA center. Shaq, for example, has a rare genetic condition causing him to be a fucking giant and giving him an unfair advantage over me, a 6'1" 190 lb. dude. Should he be allowed to play professional basketball? Of course.
The NBA considered denying him permission to play, but the decision fell apart when it was realized that no one had the balls to tell Shaq about it.
Re:Easy (Score:5, Funny)
No, we must stop the mutants.
Test for presence of the X-gene and detain them if they test positive.
At least disqualify them from athletic competition for starters.
Re:"Unfair" Advantages (Score:3, Funny)
I also think it's inappropriate to ban athletes that have subjected themselves to chemical augmentation.
On that note, we have the All Drug Olympics [hulu.com]
Surest way to tell (Score:2, Funny)
Just tell her the outfit makes her look fat. If she shrugs, dude. If she bites your head off she's a woman. You could also try blindfolding her and wave a credit card under her nose. You're risking a nasty bite or worse yet a maxed out credit card but it is a way to confirm gender.
Re:Make them write some code (Score:4, Funny)
He's good, all right, but he's no Clem Johnson. And Johnson played back in the days before steroid injections were mandatory!
Re:Easy (Score:5, Funny)
The first clue was when she kept leaving the toilet seat up.
Re:Easy (Score:1, Funny)
Kudos, excellent comment. I suspect that only a small percentage of the population understands that important and profound point: that your average Slashdot user is a worthless fatbody.
Re:Easy (Score:4, Funny)
he seems kind of like a dick.
I have to point out that in the context of this discussion (and by virtue of being Anonymous Coward) GP may be male or female, and independently of that be or not be a dick.
Re:Easy (Score:5, Funny)
Nobody wants to watch a game where they already know who will win. Likewise, the athletes don't want to compete in a contest they're sure to lose.
The continued existence of the Baltimore Orioles disproves your assertion.
Re:Easy (Score:3, Funny)
Jars? Son, she can open cans.