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## Our Friend, The Meter1672

dbirchall writes "Upon hearing that SpaceShipOne reached 100km today, I did some hasty math based on the altitude in feet sttated by Scaled Composites in their press release, and was surprised to come up with a number under 100,000 meters. Fortunately, a friend pointed out that my inches-to-meters conversion was flawed. Some quick Googling determined that lots of people still have no idea how many inches are in a meter, even after some folks have had big problems because of conversion errors."
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## Our Friend, The Meter

• #### meter (Score:5, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @02:02AM (#9503708) Homepage Journal
you mean it has nothing to do with iambic?
• #### At least we know. (Score:3, Funny)

<SlashdotEmail@GMail.Com> on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @02:04AM (#9503714) Journal
Well, at least NASA knows what happened to it's probe, unlike some other space agencies. ;->
• #### Re:On in the US (Score:4, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @02:06AM (#9503736) Homepage Journal
Yeah, okay. You use meters, congratulations. But can you spell "lose"?
• #### Still incorrect... (Score:2, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @02:08AM (#9503746)
Unless I'm mistaken, the conversion factor is defined the other way: 1 inch=2.54 cm, exactly. Python tells me that this is more like 39.370078740157481.

Which to me means nothing so much as is silly to point out you're right by simply being more right. The correct thing to do is to point out the above.

As a side note, this means I am doing the right thing. Go me!

• #### Re:On in the US (Score:5, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @02:09AM (#9503756)

Maybe it's the time for the US to join the metric world

Hell no! You'll get my inches, miles, and gallons when you pry them from my cold dead hands!

At least we wouldn't loose that Mars probe!

Loosing the probe was part of the mission design. To bad we lost it afterwards. It really sucks to lose something once you've set it loose.

• #### Re:On in the US (Score:5, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @02:11AM (#9503776)
Yeah, okay. You use meters, congratulations. But can you spell "lose"?

As he's apparently British, he can't spell "metre" either.

• #### easy solution (Score:4, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @02:12AM (#9503780)
get a meter-o-meter and inch-o-meter, drive across the US, divide the numbers, BAM there is your answer, ok, move on to next story :)
• #### metric is gud (Score:2, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @02:15AM (#9503814)
Maybe some are confused between the nautical inch and the statute inch ... oh wait ...

Maybe another reason is that some people are believing the doctored rulers they have laying around ... for ... ummm ... "discrete" measurement verification ...

Ya baby ... my rocket *does* go 100 km up.
• #### Get out of here! (Score:2, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @02:15AM (#9503816) Homepage
"With your centilliters and you milliliters." /Eddie Izzard

by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @02:18AM (#9503834)
Jesus man! That's 19 883.8782 rods!
• #### Re:Why? (Score:3, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @02:18AM (#9503839)
haven't you heard the stonecutters song:

Who controls the british crown?
Who keeps the metric system down?
We dooo! We dooo!
• #### Re:Legacy Measurement System (Score:5, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @02:20AM (#9503849) Homepage Journal

The scale measured in Kg and I was able to say, "whoa! that's X pounds!"

Your kid only weighs X pounds? Sorry to hear that. My 10 month old baby boy is weighing in right about XXX pounds right now. And he's starting to walk!

Hmmmm, am I the only one left using Roman numbers? I guess if I'm gonna use this metric thing I'm going to have to upgrade to Arabic numbers, eh? Nah, it would cost too much.

• #### Re:Why should I care? (Score:5, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @02:21AM (#9503852)
How many stone do you weigh?
• #### Re:(north) American cousins - get on board (Score:5, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @02:23AM (#9503856) Homepage
The sooner the USofA joins the rest of the world in adopting the logical, easy to use and calculate metric system, the sooner we will all be better off.

How would it make you better off in Australia? Do you have to keep spare sets of measuring spoons or something around for when we come over to visit?

• #### Rods to the hogshead (Score:4, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @02:27AM (#9503884) Homepage
To quote grandpa Simpson "My car get 40 hogsheads to the ramrod, and that's the way I like it."

It's "40 rods to the hogshead", actually. A "rod" is 16.5 feet; a "hogshead" is 63 gallons. Consequently, the elder Mr. Simpson's car putatively ran at 0.002 mpg.

• #### Re:On in the US (Score:5, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @02:28AM (#9503896)
Good point, but actually tons are a metric unit. One ton is 1000Kg

Usually speled "tonne" to make it clear.

It always bothered me in Star Trek when Spock would be reading off sensors of some object and say "5 million metric tons". Unless you go to 3 significant figures, it doesn't matter which kind of ton(ne); and in the 24th century I rather hope the imperial ton has gone the way of the cubit.

• #### Last vestige of colonialism? (Score:2, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @02:33AM (#9503925)
The USA may not admit it, but it yearns
for royalty, just like what we gave up
with our Revolution. How else to explain:

(1) fastination with Hollywood celebrities
(2) continued re-election of undeserved
politicians (like the House of Lords)
(3) elevation of GW Bush to near-sainthood?
• #### Re:It matters because (Score:3, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @02:34AM (#9503933) Homepage Journal

Because it takes longer than seven days to reach Mars?
• #### It doesn't matter who you are... (Score:3, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @02:34AM (#9503934)
or what you manage. You can still be an idiot. Just take a look at the president...
• #### "loose"? (Score:0, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @02:37AM (#9503952)
Is that the metric spelling?
• #### True story.. (Score:5, Funny)

<james AT globalmegacorp DOT org> on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @02:38AM (#9503962)
In England, all construction work has traditionally been done in imperial. At some point, in the last 6 or 7 years, people started moving to metric. Possibly as a result of legislation - I'm not sure.

Anyone with half a brain can realise the the problem with making this change, especially in an environment where you're working with existing materials. The following is a genuine conversation I had while out buying some 4 inch guttering:

Me: Hi, I need some 4 inch guttering.
Plumbing shop: Oh sorry, we don't have any 4 inch guttering.
Me: How can you not have any? This sucks!
Plumbing shop: As luck would have it, we do have some 101.6mm guttering that is exactly the same size.
Me: I'll take it!

• #### Re:On in the US (Score:1, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @02:43AM (#9503990)
LOL, what a looser!
• #### Forget Metric, Modern Physics! (Score:4, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @02:46AM (#9504005) Homepage
We need to just forego metric altogether in the US and skip straight to Modern Physics units!

My car tops out at about 0.000000231 c
It can travel about 5000000000000 nanometers per tank of gas
and it's engine produces around 937500000000000000000000 electron volts per second at the crank.

It's the wave of the future!
• #### Re:It matters because (Score:5, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @02:53AM (#9504044)
Actually, I did submit it... I should probably have just included all the HTML of the linked page instead. :)

• #### Re:(north) American cousins - get on board (Score:2, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @02:58AM (#9504076)
How would it make you better off in Australia?

Well it would mean maybe one day once all imperial had dissapeared, we would only have ONE set of socket wrenches...

and plus all the crocodiles would sound shorter, as they would only be 2 metres instead of 6 feet!

• #### Re:Legacy Measurement System (Score:2, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @02:59AM (#9504083)
"whoa! that's X pounds!" I might be impressed if you actually worked out what X was. :)
• #### Re:It matters because (Score:5, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @03:06AM (#9504121) Journal
I'm still being astounded that amidst the expected discussion of metric, there's this fervent metadiscussion of whether I did in fact post it. Of course, even though I'm making it clear that I did post it, there's the possibility that I am not who I say I am. Although, why I would choose to impersonate me is beyond the reach of my imagination. And of course there's the possibility that I am who I say, but not who others say. Which is, in fact, more than a possibility -- at least one poster has attributed to me a status which I haven't held for quite some time. Or... maybe I'm me, but only in Imperial/SAE, and in Metric I'm something ever so slightly different than me, due to the inevitable conversion/rounding errors.
• #### Futurama quote (Score:3, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @03:18AM (#9504202) Homepage
Female Robot: It fits, then you must know that I'm...

Calculon: Metric? I've always known, but for you my darling, I'm willing to convert.
• #### Re:Quick note.. (Score:5, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @03:19AM (#9504210)
"When, or if, you americans actually do adopt the metric system, it's spelled Metre.."

Right. I'm going to go to the tyre centre and have them look under the bonnet.

I'll fill my auto with 40 litres of petrol, much less than my neighbour's red-coloured auto which requires 80 litres of petrol. My auto is awful, though, so it's going to the scrapheap. For now, maybe I can bodge something to make my auto look better. At least the two hundred kilogrammes of scrap aluminium are worth something, according to the recycling programme I watched yesterday.

"Of course, this is just me being a nit-picky bastard."

No, it's you not understanding that American English spells things differently from British English.

The accepted American English spellings are "Meter", "Liter", and "Gram".
• #### Re:meter (Score:5, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @03:32AM (#9504279) Journal
Right. You're thinking of pentameter which, as everyone knows is a military meter as costs much more than a typical meter, to cover "special projects."
• #### Re:It matters because--"right" Dan Birchall (Score:5, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @03:33AM (#9504285) Journal
Erm, well, NASA is actually where I'm planning to work next*, now that I've learned how many inches are in a meter, and can thus be trusted not to cause "problems."

*No, really, honest.

• #### NASA (Score:5, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @03:36AM (#9504296) Homepage
9.36 inches according to some ham radio sorts and some NASA folks among others. Pretty close... but... shouldn't NASA know better by now?

I worked at NASA back in the early 90s. They had a big campaign to push the metric system, including posters which read "Metric is a Perfect 10!". So I got out my ruler and measured the posters, and found them to be exactly 2 feet by 3 feet...
• #### Re:At least we know. (Score:5, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @03:39AM (#9504311)
"Hey, at lease people in those other space agencies know how to speak English, unlike Americans. ;-)"

1. it is least not lease

Yes, an American has corrected your spelling.

Perhaps you should learn how to check your writing AND math.
• #### Re:On in the US (Score:3, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @03:49AM (#9504359)
Aside from the USA, there are only two other countries that don't officially use the metric system: Liberia and Myanmar. Both are dinky little third-world nations that probably have an excuse for not switching.

The USA, on the other hand, is just full of rednecks who want to keep using feet and inches (and getting pennies in their change) 'coz that's how God wants it, dammit!
• #### Re:meter (Score:2, Funny)

<the...supercoach@@@gmail...com> on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @03:54AM (#9504379)
Yep, meter is a tool for measuring, metre is a measurement.
• #### Re:On in the US (Score:4, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @03:55AM (#9504386)
a pint's a pound the world around

I have seen pubs selling 1 pound pints before. But they're usually Foster's, which you'd have to pay me to drink.

• #### Re:On in the US (Score:2, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @03:57AM (#9504399)
Coming from a metric country (Japan), I can tell you it's damn scary when you're speeding down the motorway and you see the big road sign that tells you your exit is coming up in 5m!
• #### Re:It matters because (Score:2, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @04:03AM (#9504429)
• #### Re:On in the US (Score:5, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @04:04AM (#9504432) Journal
You'll get my inches, miles, and gallons when you pry them from my cold dead hands!

Shouldn't that be - "You'll get my inches, miles and gallons when you pry them from my cold dead feet!"
• #### Re:It matters because (Score:3, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @04:11AM (#9504463)
You know, this thread is about 10 times more confusing than the whole meters-to-inches thing.

Hey, 10 times, that's metric!
• #### Re:Just Remember 2.54 (Score:2, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @04:14AM (#9504488) Homepage
1 inch = 2.54 centimeters

It's fairly easy to remember, and everything else regarding length conversions can be derived from it

So 1 inch is 2.54cm. then 1 foot is 25.4 cm ? 1 yard is 254.0 cm ? etc. ?

You can't derive the rest if you don't know the seemingly randomly chosen number of \$units in a \$biggerunit.
• #### Another: True story - Irish (Score:5, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @04:15AM (#9504493) Homepage Journal
Similar story, over 10 years ago when Ireland went metric (apologies if my attemps at written brogue sound like talk-like-a-pirate-day):

Hardware guy: Ah no surrr, we have the metric system now surr, it's all in millimeters.
My dad: Ok fine, I need some 8mm pipe
Hardware guy: Foine, foine! How many feet would you like?
• #### Re:(north) American cousins - get on board (Score:2, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @04:20AM (#9504513)
Because then we wouldn't waste time laughing at how silly Lockheed Martin and NASA were for losing a probe, so we would get more work done, make more profits and thus be better off. Simple.

We are humbled by the mighty Australian Space Agency...
• #### Re:Forget Metric, Modern Physics! (Score:5, Funny)

<sal@dcs.st-and.ac.uk> on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @04:40AM (#9504595) Homepage
No, no no!

Firstly the c is redundant. In proper post-Einstein physics, distance and time are the same, so a speed is simply a pure number, so:

My car tops out at about 0.000000231 (or 2.31 x 10^-7)

Now for distance, or time, we need to fix a unit of distance OR time. The most obvious fundamental unit of distance is the Planck length

It can travel about 3 x 10^38 Planck lengths on a tank of gas [ remark -- your car may need maintenance, that's not very far]

Power is energy (aka mass) per unit time, so again, we appeal to Planck and find that your car produces about 4 * 10^-48 Planck masses per Planck time.

Now we've got rid of all the silly arbitrary unit standards and defined everything in terms of the fundamental properties of the universe. Most physical constants are 1 in this model, which is a handy side benefit.

• #### Re:Quick note.. (Score:1, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @05:02AM (#9504685)
And don't forget the American perodic table, where "sulfur" comes next to "fosforos". Oh, wait...
• #### Re:It's not just that the poster is a moron (Score:5, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @05:08AM (#9504708) Homepage
I have many times been amazed at the calculating skills that imperial cooks must have.

You should see the calculating skills of the rebel cooks.
• #### Re:It's not just that the poster is a moron (Score:5, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @05:09AM (#9504717)
The Oracle [internetoracle.org] said [indiana.edu]:

Ladies and gentlemen, we are here today to determine the United States measurement challenge once and for all.

In the blue corner we have our current US champion for many years, weighing in at 220.4623 pounds, our hero: Igor Imperial.

In the red corner we have, weighing in at 100kg all the way from France, and currently storming the world wherever he goes, our challenger: Mean Mr Metric.

It will be a great fight today and one that may change the course of history. Can Mean Mr Metric defeat Igor Imperial and change US life forever, or will Igor outwit the classy opponent and maintain his place in history.

We are about to find out.

Gentlemen, I want a clean fight. Shake hands and come out fighting on the bell.

Round 1: "DONG"

They both approach each other and meet in the middle of the ring. Metric has trained well and opens with the first punch: How many feet in a mile?

Imperial answers after a moments hesitation with: 5280

"Good exchange there Bob, hasn't worried either of them."

"No Bill, it's still neck and neck, although Imperial took a fraction of a second to divert that question."

Imperial decides to attack with a similar strategy: How many metres in a kilometre?

Instantly, Metric flashes back with: 1000

"Wasn't that a great counter by Metric eh Bob - so quick. He's looking good tonight"

"Sure is Bill"

Imperial goes on the attack again with a curly one: How much does a litre of water weigh?

Metric comes back quickly with: 1 kilogram

"Great offense from Imperial there Bob. Combining both measurement of mass and volume - well thought out." ......
• #### Re:Quick note.. (Score:2, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @05:17AM (#9504757)
No, it's you not understanding that American English [...]

Would you mind awfully just calling it "American"? I'd rather my beautiful native tongue not be sullied by association with that cacophonous pidgin you colonials "speak". There's a good chap.

And we call them cars over here, dear boy. Do try to keep up.

• #### Re:Quick note.. (Score:5, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @05:22AM (#9504778)
There is a fair bit of arrogance renaming someone else's measurements without using them yourself. What are you going to do next rename Bordeaux into Bordo so you can get your heads around other French concepts?
• #### Re:Why should I care? (Score:4, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @05:24AM (#9504791) Journal
Funny how everyone took that comment as anti-American. Here I was assuming "*those* people" was meant to be a reference to those "add i-n-c-h-e-s to your manhood" spams...

(Speaking as someone who thinks in inches despite never having set foot on US soil.)
• #### Obligatory Granpa Simpson quote (Score:2, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @05:26AM (#9504803)
My car gets forty rods to the hogshead, and that's the way I likes it!
• #### Re:On in the US (Score:4, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @05:40AM (#9504873)
On a related point is a pint 24 or 20 fl. oz? It all depends on which side of the pond you live

It all depends on how cheap the bar is.
• #### Re:Arguments against the metric system (Score:1, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @05:45AM (#9504894)
There are 10 kinds of people in the world, ...

(We all know what comes next.)

THE LOGICAL MEASURING SYSTEM IS BASED ON 10 (base two, of course)!
• #### Re:meter (Score:2, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @06:20AM (#9505030) Homepage
Wouldn't that be true for 'feet' as well? Or are you saying they *don't* actually walk all the way up there to make the measurement? :)
• #### Re:At first i thought this post was stupid (Score:2, Funny)

<kenneth@@@vangrinsven...com> on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @06:26AM (#9505050) Homepage
....
> * 40 inches, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture.

and 120 inches according to all the viagra spam I get!
• #### Re:Why should I care? (Score:3, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @06:39AM (#9505096) Homepage Journal
You overlook a significant advantage of metric; weights and measures have a direct relationship.

I can tell you that a litre of water weighs 1kg.

Yes but how long is it?
• #### Re:At first i thought this post was stupid (Score:3, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @07:17AM (#9505211) Homepage
Well I get 31.337, but I'm using an old CPU with the Pentium bug.

-
• #### Re:meter (Score:2, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @07:54AM (#9505349) Homepage
"Right. You're thinking of pentameter which, as everyone knows is a military meter as costs much more than a typical meter, to cover "special projects.""

Unrelated to the perimeter which is also a military thing...
• #### Re:On in the US (Score:2, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @07:58AM (#9505382)
I work for a governmental organisation in the UK. I feel duty bound to assure people that we are by no means as well organised as you suggest.
• #### Re:At least we know. (Score:2, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @07:58AM (#9505386) Journal
.. and also, Beagle 2 was not a failure, it actually had a top secret governmental purpose. Beagle 2 carried genetically engineered humans on board, extra ultra small sized to survive on Mars with minimal food/water. Over the next few years they will terraform Mars, and it will becoome the strating point of a new glorious British Empire.
• #### Re:Why should I care? (Score:3, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @08:04AM (#9505427) Journal
There are 231 cubic inches per gallon.
• #### Re:At least we know. (Score:4, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @08:28AM (#9505611)
Yes, an American has corrected your spelling.
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" :-)
• #### American units #1 (Score:0, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @08:50AM (#9505809)
Metric is the measure of flunkies. "Oh it is easy.. just move the decimal for the next unit of measure." Why bother? The meter for example was based on something that turned out to be wrong. The right length of the meter is much closer to the American Yard.

Then there are the idiots that want a metric calendar. No kidding, there really is a metric calendar. Our concept of a second would change and the calendar would be off by a lot quickly. Think leap week instead of a leap year. That is because our universe is not base 10.

That is because American units are right. That is why the US is on top, we use the right measuring system. Even Airbus realized that and switched to American units in their planes. Now they are a world competitor. Even the French can make something of themselves when they use correct American measurements. No confusion on if it is 1"(inch) or 1' (foot), is it 10mm or 10cm? No one would make a mistake on the American measure, metric measurements are messed up all the time.

Everyone should dump the failed Metric system and use the correct American measures! Learn the conversions, it will do your brain good.

• #### Re:On in the US (Score:5, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @08:54AM (#9505858) Homepage
What do you call a device used to measure distance? A metre meter?

We call it a ruler. Do you call it a yard meter?

• #### Pentameter (Score:3, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @09:14AM (#9506049) Homepage Journal
Then how much does a pentagram weigh?
• #### Re:On in the US (Score:3, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @10:03AM (#9506597)
We call it a ruler. Do you call it a yard meter?

We call impliments up to about 16 inches a ruler. A 36 inch impliment is usually called a yardstick.

Anything between those ranges is a broken yardstick :)

Of course, there are folding rulers too, those can be any expanded length, as long as they and up in that 16 inch range when folded. I've never seen a folding yardstick.
• #### Re:Pentameter (Score:3, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @10:16AM (#9506765) Journal
You've made a common rounding error that shows up often in this sort of thing, similiar to the one that caused the Pentium II problem. A pentagram is actually 6.66 grams.
• #### Re:meter (Score:5, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @11:31AM (#9507594) Homepage Journal
In dutch 'meter' is used for both the measurement result and the measurement device.

And in Chicago, 'meter' is a device that resulted in me having to pay hundreds dollars to park my car.
• #### Re:meter (Score:2, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @01:34PM (#9509293) Journal
Steal one of those "Meter out of service" bags they put on broken ones. Keep it in your car and put it over the meter when you park near it. Problem solved :-)
• #### Re:Pentameter (Score:3, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @02:10PM (#9509768)
A pentagram is actually 6.66 grams.

That's the Imperial measurement. The American Pentagram is defined by military specification, so its mass is 666 tonnes.
• #### Re:THIS IS NOT FUNNY 1.0 inch = 2.540000cm (Score:3, Funny)

<slashdotispieceofshit@shithome.com> on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @02:13PM (#9509809)
"This is pure americanizum[sic] at work."

If, by that, you mean Slashdot, Space Travel, The Internet, and Computers in general, then yes, it is Americanism at work. Hard at work.
• #### Re:THIS IS NOT FUNNY 1.0 inch = 2.540000cm (Score:3, Funny)

on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @02:46PM (#9510273)
nice try, but somehow I doubt that any of the semiconductor manufacturers are working in survey feet....
• #### Re:meter (Score:1, Funny)

on Thursday June 24, 2004 @07:50AM (#9516651) Homepage Journal
until someone steals your "Meter out of service" bag.
Sigh. Then get a ""Meter out of service" bag out of service" bag and put that on the "Meter out of service bag". Do I have to do all the thinking around here?

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