by Anonymous Coward writes:
on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @06:17AM (#51945745)
That's a bold statement... If he's got proof, I'd like to see it (for free, obviously)
Science would be great here, although any limitations are going to be severely limited by both the first amendment.
I remember hearing a few years ago that the effects of internet pornography were difficult to study because it is too difficult to find a control group.
by Anonymous Coward writes:
on Wednesday April 20, 2016 @06:55AM (#51945877)
Time.
When porn was legalized in Denmark in the 1970'es, rape went down significantly. Later studies have shown that the places with the most and best internet connections[1] have the lowest number of rape cases.
[1] The internet is for porn[2], obviously. [2] Insert AvenueQ video here.
I would say that it's impossible to rape someone while feeding a porn addiction, but I guess these days there's mobile porn for the multitasking rapist.
This is not a rational thing on the side of the prohibitionists. They simply claim that "God" told them porn was bad, so it obviously must be the truth.
This is not a rational thing on the side of the prohibitionists. They simply claim that "God" told them porn was bad, so it obviously must be the truth.
That's not entirely fair. They also have science-based arguments. They simply claim that "God" told them there was scientific evidence that porn was bad.
> Later studies have shown that the places with the most and best internet connections[1] have the lowest number of rape cases.
This is an excellent time to remind everyone that correlation is not causation. Those places with the best 'net connections are also the most stable societies, the wealthier societies, etc... I suspect those have far more influence on the number of criminal sex offenses than the access to speedy porn. Just a hunch...
I bet you can probably say that those countries also have, on average, a greater availability of clean water. Surely, it's the clean water that's preventing the rape!
Mod up and remember, everyone... we don't have to actually like a point to agree with it: I was picturing every male in rural Yemen - or southeastern Oklahoma. - getting access to Scandinavian-style porn at fiber speeds...
Good God, man... women, children, neighborhood dogs... no one would be safe.
One has to wonder about the fetishes of Utah's favorite son? The real issue is, "does this whistle butt use Linux for its porn?" I thank God for Yoga pants.
Interestingly though, we may soon see a surge in fresh data to better test a causal link, as low-infrastructure wireless internet is rapidly becoming far cheaper to deploy (and far more individually profitable to procure) in may regions where social stability, clean water, etc. are still proving extremely problematic. Some such regions are taking a hard line against porn and doing their best to exclude it, others not so much.
Of course that still wouldn't prove anything, it could be other aspects of interne
This is an excellent time to remind everyone that correlation is not causation.
Also that it doesn't rule it out either.
Those places with the best 'net connections are also the most stable societies, the wealthier societies, etc...
I'm guessing that a small country like Denmark would have mostly universal Internet standards. It's unlike say comparing Santa Clara and Flint, MI.
I suspect those have far more influence on the number of criminal sex offenses than the access to speedy porn. Just a hunch...
In my city, because of political reasons, the poor areas all got fibre first. I have no idea of sexual crime stats here.
I bet you can probably say that those countries also have, on average, a greater availability of clean water. Surely, it's the clean water that's preventing the rape!
Violent crime has been going down overall all over the developed world, so it's always fun when some political interest claims it is all their doing (yes Rudy Guilaini, I'm looking at you). But from my own
It makes sense that rape would decrease where porn is prevalent. One of the problems with porn is that it lowers the ability to get turned on in real life. So not only can't you get it up for your girlfriend or wife, you can't get it up for your rape victim. Places with a lot of porn also tend to have very low fertility rates.
When it is not necessary to make a decision, it is necessary not to
make a decision.
Proof? (Score:2, Insightful)
That's a bold statement... If he's got proof, I'd like to see it (for free, obviously)
No control group (Score:4, Insightful)
That's a bold statement... If he's got proof, I'd like to see it (for free, obviously)
Science would be great here, although any limitations are going to be severely limited by both the first amendment.
I remember hearing a few years ago that the effects of internet pornography were difficult to study because it is too difficult to find a control group.
Re:No control group (Score:5, Informative)
Especially in Utah! [consumerist.com]
Re: No control group (Score:4, Funny)
Re:No control group (Score:5, Informative)
Time.
When porn was legalized in Denmark in the 1970'es, rape went down significantly. Later studies have shown that the places with the most and best internet connections[1] have the lowest number of rape cases.
[1] The internet is for porn[2], obviously.
[2] Insert AvenueQ video here.
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I would say that it's impossible to rape someone while feeding a porn addiction, but I guess these days there's mobile porn for the multitasking rapist.
Re: (Score:3, Interesting)
This is not a rational thing on the side of the prohibitionists. They simply claim that "God" told them porn was bad, so it obviously must be the truth.
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This is not a rational thing on the side of the prohibitionists. They simply claim that "God" told them porn was bad, so it obviously must be the truth.
That's not entirely fair. They also have science-based arguments. They simply claim that "God" told them there was scientific evidence that porn was bad.
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Nice one! Quite accurate.
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Can we publish this politician's Internet history? I am sure he never goes to porn sites, and never watches violent degrading porn. :)
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They define that as porn too
Re:No control group (Score:5, Insightful)
> Later studies have shown that the places with the most and best internet connections[1] have the lowest number of rape cases.
This is an excellent time to remind everyone that correlation is not causation. Those places with the best 'net connections are also the most stable societies, the wealthier societies, etc... I suspect those have far more influence on the number of criminal sex offenses than the access to speedy porn. Just a hunch...
I bet you can probably say that those countries also have, on average, a greater availability of clean water. Surely, it's the clean water that's preventing the rape!
Re: No control group (Score:2)
Good God, man... women, children, neighborhood dogs... no one would be safe.
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Re: No control group (Score:1)
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Interestingly though, we may soon see a surge in fresh data to better test a causal link, as low-infrastructure wireless internet is rapidly becoming far cheaper to deploy (and far more individually profitable to procure) in may regions where social stability, clean water, etc. are still proving extremely problematic. Some such regions are taking a hard line against porn and doing their best to exclude it, others not so much.
Of course that still wouldn't prove anything, it could be other aspects of interne
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This is an excellent time to remind everyone that correlation is not causation.
Also that it doesn't rule it out either.
Those places with the best 'net connections are also the most stable societies, the wealthier societies, etc...
I'm guessing that a small country like Denmark would have mostly universal Internet standards. It's unlike say comparing Santa Clara and Flint, MI.
I suspect those have far more influence on the number of criminal sex offenses than the access to speedy porn. Just a hunch...
In my city, because of political reasons, the poor areas all got fibre first. I have no idea of sexual crime stats here.
I bet you can probably say that those countries also have, on average, a greater availability of clean water. Surely, it's the clean water that's preventing the rape!
Violent crime has been going down overall all over the developed world, so it's always fun when some political interest claims it is all their doing (yes Rudy Guilaini, I'm looking at you). But from my own
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It was 1969.
Happy coincidence with the sexual position "69".
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