Among the 13,500 scanned pages are 1,500 different language versions of Genesis 1-3
I'm sure they picked bible passages because the translations were mostly done for them already but I'm a little embarassed that future generations are going to think how amazingly superstitious we were. I mean, Genesis 2 alone...
Then the LORD God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.
Yeah really, why Bible passages, why not texts from *this* day instead of from thousands of years ago, there's so much choice of things from today, such as slashdot articles, QDB quotes,.....
Because the bible is already translated, and because the bible is more likely to survive 2000 years.
Assume that none of the 1500 languages used still exist 2,000 years from now. It's a fairly safe bet that if there's still humans, there's still going to be religion. And as annoying as it is to admit for some people, Christianity is likely to be one of those religions that survives. That'll give them a translation key for 1,500 languages, which can in turn be used to translate the rest of the information con
Also the bible is, to say the very, very least, a huge part of our past, present and future.
Everything we know today developed in a society that was utterly permeated by the bible in every nook and cranny.
And since people seem to have forgotten what the purpose of ideology is (you should read some ancient roman texts, or the bible for that matter. But if you've got to pick a single text either read the story of Sodom and Gomorra, and ask yourself the question "there is ONE vague reference to homosexuality i
Everything we know today developed in a society that was utterly permeated by the bible in every nook and cranny.
That's pretty arrogant. Also very wrong.
Plenty of what we know today came from the ancient Greeks, who predated the bible. And there are plenty of nooks in which the bible is not used -- despite your attempts to turn this country into a stealth theocracy, most of us still embrace the separation of church and state, and other religions do exist.
Everything you are - your clothes, your food (clothes don't grow in the stores), your car, your very thoughts come from others, with a tiny drop of personal impact from yourself.
I don't own a car, first of all.
And I take responsibility for all of it, whatever my own influence is. I am aware enough to be able to make my own choices -- so if these things come from others, they come with my endorsement.
If those people choose what economists call "Nash efficiency" as an ideology (what atheists do),
It would help if you cited something specific -- all I can find on Nash Efficiency [wikipedia.org] tells me it's a chunk of math, not an ideology.
improving themselves without conscious regard to others (e.g. "piracy is not a crime")
And as an atheist, I can tell you that you're dead wrong about that. What gave you the idea that atheists don't have conscious regard to others?
For that matter, ask a pirate -- I don't think any will try to say it's not a crime. They might occasionally remind you that it's not piracy -- piracy is armed robbery on the high seas; this is copyright infringement -- and they might say that it's not immoral, or that copyright law needs to change.
But I don't think anyone will claim it isn't a crime.
However, if everyone around you (example... your current employer and any other possible employer) behaved atheistically, improving primarily themselves without regard to others, you'd be out of a job,
Unlikely. My current employer likes me as a person, and has more work than he can do himself, so there is plenty that I can do.
What part of that requires belief in a mythical sky-god?
(even the food would disappear from the local supermarket, as it will be more in the personal intrest of the owner to simply keep it himself). You'd die (even if you are said owner, because deliveries would stop).
Disregarding for the moment your misguided assumptions about atheism, consider that owner -- as you said, deliveries would stop.
So, even if the owner was the most horrible person imaginable, and didn't care at all about anyone but himself, he would keep selling food to you, because that way, deliveries continue -- and also, that way, he gets money to spend on some things he wants other than food.
Before the vandals and visigoths started their massive immigration into the Roman Empire, life expectancy for a slave was around 60 years (this is 300-400 B.C. we're talking about). Once Rome fell, life expectancy of a king dropped to 30 years, and most people didn't live long enough to have children (life expectancy : about 10-15 years). That's what "bread and games" ultimately achieved.
What's your evidence that "bread and games" was responsible for this, assuming the rest of your statistics are accurate?
If you follow the Christian credo, and give to others (that are preferentially also Christians) without expecting anything in return,
If you do that, you're a hypocrite -- you're giving to others and expecting faith in return.
Why are they preferentially also Christians?
And for what it's worth, what was included on the Rosetta Disk was the first few chapters of Genesis, which have absolutely nothing to do with "giving to others".
Conversely, you are pretty damned arrogant (and ignorant) to think that Christians invented the concepts of charity, or morality in general -- or that they have a monopoly on these things today.
In fact, you're pretty ignorant if you think this is what Christianity actually stands for. Where was your charity during the crusades? And where is your morality today, in the priests who rape little boys?
Well that's embarassing (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm sure they picked bible passages because the translations were mostly done for them already but I'm a little embarassed that future generations are going to think how amazingly superstitious we were. I mean, Genesis 2 alone...
Then the LORD God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.
They're going to think we were cuckoo!
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Because the bible is already translated, and because the bible is more likely to survive 2000 years.
Assume that none of the 1500 languages used still exist 2,000 years from now. It's a fairly safe bet that if there's still humans, there's still going to be religion. And as annoying as it is to admit for some people, Christianity is likely to be one of those religions that survives. That'll give them a translation key for 1,500 languages, which can in turn be used to translate the rest of the information con
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Also the bible is, to say the very, very least, a huge part of our past, present and future.
Everything we know today developed in a society that was utterly permeated by the bible in every nook and cranny.
And since people seem to have forgotten what the purpose of ideology is (you should read some ancient roman texts, or the bible for that matter. But if you've got to pick a single text either read the story of Sodom and Gomorra, and ask yourself the question "there is ONE vague reference to homosexuality i
Re:Well that's embarassing (Score:4, Interesting)
Everything we know today developed in a society that was utterly permeated by the bible in every nook and cranny.
That's pretty arrogant. Also very wrong.
Plenty of what we know today came from the ancient Greeks, who predated the bible. And there are plenty of nooks in which the bible is not used -- despite your attempts to turn this country into a stealth theocracy, most of us still embrace the separation of church and state, and other religions do exist.
Everything you are - your clothes, your food (clothes don't grow in the stores), your car, your very thoughts come from others, with a tiny drop of personal impact from yourself.
I don't own a car, first of all.
And I take responsibility for all of it, whatever my own influence is. I am aware enough to be able to make my own choices -- so if these things come from others, they come with my endorsement.
If those people choose what economists call "Nash efficiency" as an ideology (what atheists do),
It would help if you cited something specific -- all I can find on Nash Efficiency [wikipedia.org] tells me it's a chunk of math, not an ideology.
improving themselves without conscious regard to others (e.g. "piracy is not a crime")
And as an atheist, I can tell you that you're dead wrong about that. What gave you the idea that atheists don't have conscious regard to others?
For that matter, ask a pirate -- I don't think any will try to say it's not a crime. They might occasionally remind you that it's not piracy -- piracy is armed robbery on the high seas; this is copyright infringement -- and they might say that it's not immoral, or that copyright law needs to change.
But I don't think anyone will claim it isn't a crime.
However, if everyone around you (example ... your current employer and any other possible employer) behaved atheistically, improving primarily themselves without regard to others, you'd be out of a job,
Unlikely. My current employer likes me as a person, and has more work than he can do himself, so there is plenty that I can do.
What part of that requires belief in a mythical sky-god?
(even the food would disappear from the local supermarket, as it will be more in the personal intrest of the owner to simply keep it himself). You'd die (even if you are said owner, because deliveries would stop).
Disregarding for the moment your misguided assumptions about atheism, consider that owner -- as you said, deliveries would stop.
So, even if the owner was the most horrible person imaginable, and didn't care at all about anyone but himself, he would keep selling food to you, because that way, deliveries continue -- and also, that way, he gets money to spend on some things he wants other than food.
Before the vandals and visigoths started their massive immigration into the Roman Empire, life expectancy for a slave was around 60 years (this is 300-400 B.C. we're talking about). Once Rome fell, life expectancy of a king dropped to 30 years, and most people didn't live long enough to have children (life expectancy : about 10-15 years). That's what "bread and games" ultimately achieved.
What's your evidence that "bread and games" was responsible for this, assuming the rest of your statistics are accurate?
If you follow the Christian credo, and give to others (that are preferentially also Christians) without expecting anything in return,
If you do that, you're a hypocrite -- you're giving to others and expecting faith in return.
Why are they preferentially also Christians?
And for what it's worth, what was included on the Rosetta Disk was the first few chapters of Genesis, which have absolutely nothing to do with "giving to others".
Conversely, you are pretty damned arrogant (and ignorant) to think that Christians invented the concepts of charity, or morality in general -- or that they have a monopoly on these things today.
In fact, you're pretty ignorant if you think this is what Christianity actually stands for. Where was your charity during the crusades? And where is your morality today, in the priests who rape little boys?