I'll guess you are a Christian nutjob. We normal people have science which is happy to accept new research as it becomes available. You, on the other hand, are relegated to reading obscure meanings into ancient texts, none of which are the originals; the only "copies" of the Jewish Bible were made several hundred years after Jesus popped his cogs. Even the story of Noah and the Flood were "gifted" from the Epic of Gilgamesh, which was an ancient Sumerian myth.
And if you want to get all New Testament about it, all we have are texts in Greek written several hundred years after Jesus did a bunk. Those Greek texts are not in the "original" Aramaic. Some lines make no sense unless translated back into Aramaic. Worse, the Greek texts read as one continuous line of characters, no word breaks or punctuation.
And Christianity itself was constructed well after Jesus went "see y'all later". The Big Theory of the Trinity is in none of the Gospels or the other books of the NT, 27 in all. Jesus told the 12 disciples when the Son-O-Man comes (he never claimed to be such), they would be made leaders of the 12 tribes of Israel. Judas Iscariot was one of the twelve.
The story I like best that never made it into the NT but was written about that time was the story of Judas who felt remorse for selling out Jesus to the Romans. He goes home to tell his wife (that alone should tell you the story is made up). His wife is cooking a chicken on a spit. He tells her Jesus is going to come back and get him for what he did. His wife considers this for a brief moment and says that Jesus has as much chance coming back to life as this chicken. The chicken, hearing this, gets up and crows.
I ask you, who spit roasts a chicken with its head on. The Albanians have two-headed chicken on their flag. He could have gotten up, crowed and sang the Star-Spangled Banner. In that case, the chicken should be immediately returned to Ali's Chicken Emporium. A real Albanian two-headed chicken would have sung the Albanian national anthem.
You are clueless. There are many things you have wrong, but let me pick on just one: "the only "copies" of the Jewish Bible were made several hundred years after Jesus popped his cogs". Guess you never heard of the Dead Sea Scrolls?
Pardon me, let me mention another one: Yes, Greek was at one time written without word breaks or punctuation--as Chinese and several other languages still are today. So what? I do not know of a single place in the Greek New Testament (or for that matter in other Greek writing
(shrug) I'll take the "invisible sky god" over your "invisible sky hook" (the thing all your beliefs and morality must hang from) any day.
You have no basis for any of your beliefs, and no reason for me to care about them.
By your own words, you are just a shambling mound of self reproducing matter, and anything that you think and believe is just some sort of epi-phenomenon.
and the irony is the same applies to you - you have no morality because you are scared of being punished if you dont folllow the rules not because they are meaningful to you.
and the irony is the same applies to you - you have no morality because you are scared of being punished if you dont folllow the rules not because they are meaningful to you.
Me: morality comes from the creator of the universe. I love him, so I want to please him, but he also has rules which must be followed.
You: morality comes from... well, whatever I feel like. Or maybe a Twitter mob. Or possibly whatever is better for a larger number of people (though why anybody should care about that, I don't know, it's just another personal preference)
I'll take his morality over that produced by some sky-jockey-believing idiot any day of the week. We see the poisonous shit that comes out of believing in a god far more often than we see something similarly bad coming out of someone who takes responsibility for their actions.
There is no time like the present for postponing what you ought to be doing.
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he loves to fake and leave confusing evidence that world isn't 6,000 years old.
Well, a missing "billion" years would seem to pose a slight problem to your theories.
But no, I guess it's you who should be smug, because what's a billion years between friends?
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I'll guess you are a Christian nutjob. We normal people have science which is happy to accept new research as it becomes available. You, on the other hand, are relegated to reading obscure meanings into ancient texts, none of which are the originals; the only "copies" of the Jewish Bible were made several hundred years after Jesus popped his cogs. Even the story of Noah and the Flood were "gifted" from the Epic of Gilgamesh, which was an ancient Sumerian myth.
And if you want to get all New Testament about it, all we have are texts in Greek written several hundred years after Jesus did a bunk. Those Greek texts are not in the "original" Aramaic. Some lines make no sense unless translated back into Aramaic. Worse, the Greek texts read as one continuous line of characters, no word breaks or punctuation.
And Christianity itself was constructed well after Jesus went "see y'all later". The Big Theory of the Trinity is in none of the Gospels or the other books of the NT, 27 in all. Jesus told the 12 disciples when the Son-O-Man comes (he never claimed to be such), they would be made leaders of the 12 tribes of Israel. Judas Iscariot was one of the twelve.
The story I like best that never made it into the NT but was written about that time was the story of Judas who felt remorse for selling out Jesus to the Romans. He goes home to tell his wife (that alone should tell you the story is made up). His wife is cooking a chicken on a spit. He tells her Jesus is going to come back and get him for what he did. His wife considers this for a brief moment and says that Jesus has as much chance coming back to life as this chicken. The chicken, hearing this, gets up and crows.
I ask you, who spit roasts a chicken with its head on. The Albanians have two-headed chicken on their flag. He could have gotten up, crowed and sang the Star-Spangled Banner. In that case, the chicken should be immediately returned to Ali's Chicken Emporium. A real Albanian two-headed chicken would have sung the Albanian national anthem.
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We normal people have science which is happy to accept new research as it becomes available.
Oh, you sweet summer child...
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You are clueless. There are many things you have wrong, but let me pick on just one: "the only "copies" of the Jewish Bible were made several hundred years after Jesus popped his cogs". Guess you never heard of the Dead Sea Scrolls?
Pardon me, let me mention another one: Yes, Greek was at one time written without word breaks or punctuation--as Chinese and several other languages still are today. So what? I do not know of a single place in the Greek New Testament (or for that matter in other Greek writing
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(shrug) I'll take the "invisible sky god" over your "invisible sky hook" (the thing all your beliefs and morality must hang from) any day.
You have no basis for any of your beliefs, and no reason for me to care about them.
By your own words, you are just a shambling mound of self reproducing matter, and anything that you think and believe is just some sort of epi-phenomenon.
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and the irony is the same applies to you - you have no morality because you are scared of being punished if you dont folllow the rules not because they are meaningful to you.
Me: morality comes from the creator of the universe. I love him, so I want to please him, but he also has rules which must be followed.
You: morality comes from ... well, whatever I feel like. Or maybe a Twitter mob. Or possibly whatever is better for a larger number of people (though why anybody should care about that, I don't know, it's just another personal preference)
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