The big problem I keep seeing is the morons who wear a mask under their nose. It's difficult to get everybody to wear a mask, and everybody has to wear one for them to be effective. Their likely more effective at trapping viruses going out than coming in, so the people with the mask not covering their noses are likely causing issues even if everybody else is wearing one properly.
Last year we were focused on the droplets of saliva that people were spitting when speaking (in spite of that, morons that used the mask used to removed it to speak - this is as smart as wearing a condom during sex except to ejaculate). But that was last year.
Now we know that the virus is also airborne and given all the measures used to prevent transmission via droplets, it might air be becoming the method of transmission now. Airbone viruses mix in the air of closed spaces just like cigarette smoke.
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Ya conclusively airborne, quite a few good studies on Lancet.
Not much that can be done though for airborne viruses in gen pop.
Except wearing one of those full bubble head masks on indiegogo / kickstarter if they get delivered. before zeta variant.
Or the aliexpress masks with rechargeable air pumps clipped to your belt. Those seemed good. Have a whole mic-ampli-speaker circuit too for carrying your voice out.
By the time I make up my mind which high tech mask to buy the bloody wave goes away, only to return i
Not much that can be done though for airborne viruses in gen pop.
That's completely untrue. First, airborne doesn't mean bare viruses floating around in the air. It means the virus is floating around in tiny microaerosols. Those are heavy, so over time (hours), they fall out of suspension.
Second, risk of illness is a threshold function. Below a certain level, you don't get sick. Masks need not completely eliminate the contagion to lower the spread, because most of the air you breathe in, you also breathe out, so more often than not, the microaerosols pass harmlessly
Last year we were focused on the droplets of saliva that people were spitting when speaking (in spite of that, morons that used the mask used to removed it to speak - this is as smart as wearing a condom during sex except to ejaculate). But that was last year.
Depends on what you're trying to prevent. If the girl has AIDS or some other STD and you're trying to minimize the guy's risk of catching it while still making a kid, that's not necessarily wrong. Wearing a mask under your nose, on the other hand, is always a mistake.
Now we know that the virus is also airborne and given all the measures used to prevent transmission via droplets, it might air be becoming the method of transmission now. Airbone viruses mix in the air of closed spaces just like cigarette smoke.
Airborne transmission was always the primary mode of transmission. That's why they said not to bother with sanitizing. By the time you get it from fomite transmission, you've already caught it through the air with near certainty.
It might not be that bad. I'd imagine that the viral particles leaving the nose would be going downwards, whereas the mouth projects them forwards.
This plus the fact that the louder you talk the more particles you're emitting and so wearing a mask over your mouth is still beneficial.
2m distance is far more effective though.
I think the virus R-0 factors have passed some kind of threshold in London, mask wearing is very willy nilly, employees of most businesses don't seem to be wearing masks. I'm lucky I got
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The big problem I keep seeing is the morons who wear a mask under their nose. It's difficult to get everybody to wear a mask, and everybody has to wear one for them to be effective. Their likely more effective at trapping viruses going out than coming in, so the people with the mask not covering their noses are likely causing issues even if everybody else is wearing one properly.
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What about the particles going into your nose? For one thing.
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Ya conclusively airborne, quite a few good studies on Lancet.
Not much that can be done though for airborne viruses in gen pop.
Except wearing one of those full bubble head masks on indiegogo / kickstarter if they get delivered. before zeta variant.
Or the aliexpress masks with rechargeable air pumps clipped to your belt. Those seemed good. Have a whole mic-ampli-speaker circuit too for carrying your voice out.
By the time I make up my mind which high tech mask to buy the bloody wave goes away, only to return i
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By the time I make up my mind which high tech mask to buy the bloody wave goes away, only to return in few months.
Letting percetion be the enemy of good I see.
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Not much that can be done though for airborne viruses in gen pop.
That's completely untrue. First, airborne doesn't mean bare viruses floating around in the air. It means the virus is floating around in tiny microaerosols. Those are heavy, so over time (hours), they fall out of suspension.
Second, risk of illness is a threshold function. Below a certain level, you don't get sick. Masks need not completely eliminate the contagion to lower the spread, because most of the air you breathe in, you also breathe out, so more often than not, the microaerosols pass harmlessly
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Last year we were focused on the droplets of saliva that people were spitting when speaking (in spite of that, morons that used the mask used to removed it to speak - this is as smart as wearing a condom during sex except to ejaculate). But that was last year.
Depends on what you're trying to prevent. If the girl has AIDS or some other STD and you're trying to minimize the guy's risk of catching it while still making a kid, that's not necessarily wrong. Wearing a mask under your nose, on the other hand, is always a mistake.
Now we know that the virus is also airborne and given all the measures used to prevent transmission via droplets, it might air be becoming the method of transmission now. Airbone viruses mix in the air of closed spaces just like cigarette smoke.
Airborne transmission was always the primary mode of transmission. That's why they said not to bother with sanitizing. By the time you get it from fomite transmission, you've already caught it through the air with near certainty.
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This plus the fact that the louder you talk the more particles you're emitting and so wearing a mask over your mouth is still beneficial.
2m distance is far more effective though.
I think the virus R-0 factors have passed some kind of threshold in London, mask wearing is very willy nilly, employees of most businesses don't seem to be wearing masks. I'm lucky I got