Why is everyone losing their shit over this? We _already_ have shot records, and they _already_ have to be provided to school in order to enroll. Some international travel _already_ requires vaccination records.
In the words of the great Star Lord... "everybody chill the F out".
The proposed standards for "Vaccine Passports" is something that can be readily verified by anyone.
Verifying a vaccine record from your doctor requires contacting your doctor and getting them to cooperate in releasing at least some of your medical records to some anonymous, non-medical cold caller. This usually means you, as the owner of your medical information, need to sign a release granting the doctor permission to share it your records with someone else... and you'd need to sign such a document for lit
There are big logistical problems with vaccine passports.
There are multiple vaccines. Some provide >90% immunity, some only 75%. We don't know how long any of them last yet, so can't put an expiry date on the passport. There is also a start-up period, in the first few weeks after vaccination it doesn't provide the full level of protection.
We also don't know how infectious the vaccinated are, i.e. if they can infect non-vaccinated people.
There are questions over privacy and fairness too. For example travel insurance companies might require vaccination for cover, but if AZ only gives you 75% protection will they be allowed to ask and use that to charge you a higher premium than someone who got Pfizer?
Or how about if you got a Chinese vaccine and the US doesn't recognize it, or vice-versa? Even between the EU and US there are differences in which vaccines have been approved for use.
None of this is insurmountable but it needs some very careful consideration.
75% immunity is good enough for a passport, particular as the protection against serious cases seems to be better than the protection against any infection.
And in related news (Score:5, Insightful)
Rest of world bans Floridians from traveling there.
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Papers, pls?
Just another potential totalitarian move from Big Tech and the Democrats.
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We _already_ have shot records, and they _already_ have to be provided to school in order to enroll.
Some international travel _already_ requires vaccination records.
In the words of the great Star Lord... "everybody chill the F out".
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The proposed standards for "Vaccine Passports" is something that can be readily verified by anyone.
Verifying a vaccine record from your doctor requires contacting your doctor and getting them to cooperate in releasing at least some of your medical records to some anonymous, non-medical cold caller. This usually means you, as the owner of your medical information, need to sign a release granting the doctor permission to share it your records with someone else... and you'd need to sign such a document for lit
Re:And in related news (Score:5, Informative)
There are big logistical problems with vaccine passports.
There are multiple vaccines. Some provide >90% immunity, some only 75%. We don't know how long any of them last yet, so can't put an expiry date on the passport. There is also a start-up period, in the first few weeks after vaccination it doesn't provide the full level of protection.
We also don't know how infectious the vaccinated are, i.e. if they can infect non-vaccinated people.
There are questions over privacy and fairness too. For example travel insurance companies might require vaccination for cover, but if AZ only gives you 75% protection will they be allowed to ask and use that to charge you a higher premium than someone who got Pfizer?
Or how about if you got a Chinese vaccine and the US doesn't recognize it, or vice-versa? Even between the EU and US there are differences in which vaccines have been approved for use.
None of this is insurmountable but it needs some very careful consideration.
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75% immunity is good enough for a passport, particular as the protection against serious cases seems to be better than the protection against any infection.
It appears that Pfizer vaccine does make people 90% less infectious compared to no vaccine [bloomberg.com]. Presumably Moderna too.
TLDR: Don't make the perfect the enemy of the good.