A = True B = True So C Conspiracy of Pure Evil Needs to be true.
If you had someone from the FBI, NSA, USDA, Private Consulting Firm, enter your company to check something. Wouldn't you be escorting them around, making sure they are accessing what they are saying they are looking for, and blocking them from going into spots that they don't need to go, and still be fully cooperative and open for the investigation.
China is a Communist Country, nearly all organizations are owned by the Chinese Government. So any outside review of anything you are going to have a Chinese representative escorting them. In a Capitalist Country you are going to have a company representative escorting them around.
We know COVID-19 started in China. China Knows that and the WHO knows that. Their is little to gain from blocking the investigation especially at this stage. Because the better we know how it spread, the better we can prevent it something like that in the future again. China lost a lot of Citizens as well from COVID. So they have interest in protecting their own population too.
"We know COVID-19 started in China. China Knows that and the WHO knows that." Knowing something and admitting that same thing are two different beasts.
We know that COVID19 started in China. China does not deny this.
We do *NOT* know that the Chinese government orchestrated it, nor have any rationally sustainable basis to conclude that it originated in a lab when entirely there are entirely natural causes involved that can far more readily explain its origins.
Shit happens, and sometimes it isn't anybody's fault. China might have technically dropped the ball on keeping the doctor who was wanting to raise the alarm about the novel coronavirus sooner, bu
Considering China's first public announcement about the existence and severity of the virus happened over 2 full weeks before the first case was detected outside of China, I'm not sure how you think that China had not basically "admitted" that the outbreak had started in that country.
Another debate concerns the source of SARS-CoV-2 that caused the COVID-19 outbreak at the end of 2019. The current data question the animal origin of SARS-CoV-2 in the seafood market where the early cases were identified in Wuhan, China. Given the finding of SARS-CoV-2 on the surface of imported food packages, contact with contaminated uncooked food could be an important source of SARS-CoV-2 transmission (8). Recently, SARS-CoV-2 antibodies were found in human serum samples taken outside of China before the COVID-19 outbreak was detected (14, 15), which suggests that SARS-CoV-2 existed for some time before the first cases were described in Wuhan.
Peng Zhou CAS Key Laboratory of Special Pathogens, Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Wuhan 430071, China. Zheng-Li Shi Shanghai Public Health Clinical Center, Fudan University, Shanghai, China.
What I said was that the very first cases of COVID19 were not detected outside of China until nearly half a month *AFTER* China public announced its own outbreak, raising the alarm to the world that pandemic precautions might be necessary.
So yes.... China most certainly *did* "admit" that the virus originated there. The fact that antibodies for it were found outside of China before the Wuhan outbreak does not change this.
Gosh that takes me back... or is it forward? That's the trouble with
time travel, you never can tell."
-- Doctor Who, "Androids of Tara"
I guess the real point of the latest reports is (Score:1, Insightful)
That if you don't look for evidence, you can say you have found no evidence.
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Re:I guess the real point of the latest reports is (Score:2)
Parameter A
Parameter B
A = True
B = True
So C Conspiracy of Pure Evil Needs to be true.
If you had someone from the FBI, NSA, USDA, Private Consulting Firm, enter your company to check something. Wouldn't you be escorting them around, making sure they are accessing what they are saying they are looking for, and blocking them from going into spots that they don't need to go, and still be fully cooperative and open for the investigation.
China is a Communist Country, nearly all organizations are owned by the Chinese Government. So any outside review of anything you are going to have a Chinese representative escorting them.
In a Capitalist Country you are going to have a company representative escorting them around.
We know COVID-19 started in China. China Knows that and the WHO knows that. Their is little to gain from blocking the investigation especially at this stage. Because the better we know how it spread, the better we can prevent it something like that in the future again.
China lost a lot of Citizens as well from COVID. So they have interest in protecting their own population too.
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"We know COVID-19 started in China. China Knows that and the WHO knows that."
Knowing something and admitting that same thing are two different beasts.
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We know that COVID19 started in China. China does not deny this. We do *NOT* know that the Chinese government orchestrated it, nor have any rationally sustainable basis to conclude that it originated in a lab when entirely there are entirely natural causes involved that can far more readily explain its origins.
Shit happens, and sometimes it isn't anybody's fault. China might have technically dropped the ball on keeping the doctor who was wanting to raise the alarm about the novel coronavirus sooner, bu
Re: I guess the real point of the latest reports i (Score:2)
> We know that COVID19 started in China. China does not deny this.
Wow. Not denying something is not the same as admitting or agreeing with it.
You do not know. I doubt China knows either.
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Are you replying to me? All I said was "Knowing something and admitting that same thing are two different beasts."
But since we're on the topic:
We know that COVID19 started in China. China does not deny this
https://www.bbc.com/news/world... [bbc.com]
https://science.sciencemag.org... [sciencemag.org]
Another debate concerns the source of SARS-CoV-2 that caused the COVID-19 outbreak at the end of 2019. The current data question the animal origin of SARS-CoV-2 in the seafood market where the early cases were identified in Wuhan, China. Given the finding of SARS-CoV-2 on the surface of imported food packages, contact with contaminated uncooked food could be an important source of SARS-CoV-2 transmission (8). Recently, SARS-CoV-2 antibodies were found in human serum samples taken outside of China before the COVID-19 outbreak was detected (14, 15), which suggests that SARS-CoV-2 existed for some time before the first cases were described in Wuhan.
Peng Zhou CAS Key Laboratory of Special Pathogens, Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Wuhan 430071, China.
Zheng-Li Shi Shanghai Public Health Clinical Center, Fudan University, Shanghai, China.
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What I said was that the very first cases of COVID19 were not detected outside of China until nearly half a month *AFTER* China public announced its own outbreak, raising the alarm to the world that pandemic precautions might be necessary.
So yes.... China most certainly *did* "admit" that the virus originated there. The fact that antibodies for it were found outside of China before the Wuhan outbreak does not change this.