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Russian Cargo Mission To ISS Spinning Out of Control 120

quippe writes: Many sources report that a Russian spacecraft, launched successfully (video) from Russia's Baikonur cosmodrome in Kazakhstan earlier Tuesday, is in big trouble now after having a glitch shortly after liftoff. There is a video on YouTube (credit: NASA) of the space ship spinning out of control. Recovery attempts haven't gone well so far, but they will continue. If they can't regain control, the ship will likely burn up when it falls back into the atmosphere. Current speculation points to greater-than-expected lift by the third-stage, because the apogee is 20km higher than planned. The ship does not seem to pose a threat to the ISS at the moment.
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Russian Cargo Mission To ISS Spinning Out of Control

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  • by OzPeter ( 195038 ) on Wednesday April 29, 2015 @09:19AM (#49576151)

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  • by Mysticalfruit ( 533341 ) on Wednesday April 29, 2015 @09:34AM (#49576293) Homepage Journal
    When you put the word "Cargo" in the title it's pretty self explanatory otherwise you're just a horrible person...
  • (1) spinning is caused by force
    (2) more force, unless purely rotational = higher speed
    (3) higher speed = higher orbit
    (4) 20km higher orbit is not much -- consistent with a small engine (like a thruster) causing it
    So, (5) keep guessing what the problem is

    My guess: a thruster stuck open...
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 29, 2015 @11:32AM (#49577527)

    Old? Yes, but in rocket science old = proven. Conservative people like that they are paying for proven tech that works.
    Expensive? No, Soyuz and Progress are damn cheap.
    Unreliable? Well, two failures out of ~150 missions is pretty good reliability for an unmanned cargo vessel.

    Proton failures with booster going full Kerbal were much bigger deal. This is obviously a setback, but nobody can claim that Progress is unreliable based on this alone. Besides, main theory appears to be third stage shutdown problem, resulting in the stage colliding with Progress and damaging it critically.

    This failure does prove that you need redundant supply ships for ISS (and for any long term manned space mission) - a booster or a cargo ship might fail, so you need dissimilar redundancy and suitable buffers of supplies. ISS has these things. Dragon and HTV are still working fine. Granted, if Progress flights get delayed due to accident investigation, Dragon is going to be in bit of a do-or-die mode in June as a failure for that cargo flight would be a fairly big deal. Not "evacuate ISS"-big deal (yet), but "reshuffle all cargo manifests, start conserving supplies"-grade big deal.

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