Greenland Is Getting Darker

sciencehabit (1205606) writes "Greenland's white snow is getting darker. Scientists have generally attributed that darkening to larger, slightly less white snow grains caused by warmer temperatures. But researchers have found a new source of darkening taking hold: impurities in the snow. The new darkening effect could easily add 2 centimeters to the projections of 20 cm sea level rise by 2100—and perhaps more if impurity levels grow with time."

Re:China anyone?

[Opportunist]

Your sig coupled with how much more you know about what I think than me myself makes it kinda comical, you know?

I honestly cannot remember me saying anything about the US lowering its emissions. Actually, if I was the US, I'd DEMAND global emission standards since that would mean China has to struggle to get its emissions at least close to where the US already is, boosting the US economy. But I guess I expect too much from politicians who are bought and sold by the same companies that profit from China NOT having to put up with rigid ecological standards.

The pollution I blame on the US (and Europe, don't feel left out on the Asian peninsula!) is that WE let them get away with it. We buy their cheap, pollution producing crap. We buy it. And as long as we buy it, they will produce it. It is our pollution, whether you like it or not. It's not pollution we create here, allright, but still that pollution is done "in our name", for the sake of us getting cheap crap to buy.

And if you stopped foaming from your mouth for just a moment and read my comment above again, you might notice that this leftist idiot here said exactly that from the start.

Re: ...if impurity levels grow with time.

[camelrider]

Particulates from coal-burning, wildfires, dust storms, volcanoes, Etc all contribute to the darkening of the snow. This is true thruout the northern temperate and arctic areas, not just Greenland.

Re:China anyone?

[WindBourne]

BTW, it is NOT we the end buyers that are making these choices. It is the buyers at large retailers that are making these choices. Having dealt with Home Depot, I found out that the buyers are given nice business and/or first class seats to China and then put up in 5 star hotels, and then they get a nice vacation paid by the Chinese gov.
OTOH, here in America, IFF they go out (most stay in the office), it is coach, and then a motel 6.
Is it any wonder why those buyers are choosing Chinese?

Re:20cm of stupidiy

[AC-x]

As I said in a follow-up comment as I forgot to quote it first time:

Fossil fuel subsidies reached $90 billion in the OECD and over $500 billion globally in 2011.[1] Renewable energy subsidies reached $88 billion in 2011.

Whatever the source of that money, we are currently spending over 5x more on fossil fuel than on renewables which makes the argument that we're spending a lot of money on renewables and not seeing much in return pretty moot.

Re:More climate lies

[Pino Grigio]

Well, since the last ice age it's something like 450 feet higher but since the Great Melt its been rising at a pretty steady rate. Certainly over the last several centuries it's been a fairly constant rise. Nothing to do with "AGW". It's just natural variation.