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coondoggie writes "NASA today said it was looking into developing two new Centennial Challenge competitions that would let the public design, build and deliver small satellites known as Cubesats capable of operations and experiments near the moon and beyond. The first challenge will focus on finding innovative ways to allow deep space communications with small spacecraft, while the second focuses on primary propulsion for small spacecraft."
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NASA Pondering Two Public Contests To Build Small Space Exploration Satellites

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  • NO! (Score:3, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @11:10PM (#46169793)

    If you move me to the beta slashdot abortion i'll add this place to the block list and never visit again.

    Too many other news sites regurgitate the exact same storys i see here. And all of them don't look as shitty as the beta slashdot.

    Stop being stupid

  • Beta (Score:5, Insightful)

    by RyanFenton (230700) on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @11:12PM (#46169809)

    I'll join the crowd and help post in every thread that pops up, and upvote all the other comments I can find doing the same.

    Slashdot Beta is not fixable - it is trash code that should be abandoned as a "lessons learned" exercise. It's not even a close decision - it's pretty much unanimous amongst the users - the ones that provide 90+% of any meaningful content on this particular site in particular.

    If this advice that everyone is giving isn't honored by the local 'beta' admins, I believe it's time to start communicating with the people in charge, and pulling the levers of power a bit - and hopefully get these folks a stern talking to about what they were throwing away.

    Shorter version: THE BETA SUCKS. LOSE IT.

    Ryan Fenton

    • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @11:19PM (#46169869)

      Thank you for your comment.

      For me it's that Slashdot has more or less not changed in design since the beginning. Once you change the design so drastically (and so poorly) it's just not Slashdot anymore. It's just another site looking generic and soulless doing the same thing tons of other sites on the internet try to do.

      Not to mention the new design just displays the same data more spaced out. Beta is just a waste of white space and soulless looking. Once Slashdot is changed so drastically, it's not improved, it's just gone to me. I think the only reason I still visit this site daily is that it has stayed mostly the same since I started 10+ years ago.

      • Re:Beta (Score:5, Insightful)

        by arth1 (260657) on Thursday February 06, 2014 @01:14AM (#46170613) Homepage Journal

        Not to mention the new design just displays the same data more spaced out.

        No, it doesn't. It hides much of the data, making it difficult to get to, and impossible to get to without losing the context.

        It seems deliberately discussion-unfrendly, and like many others, I come here for the discussions.

        I left when the last beta was forced on us a couple of years ago, and it took a while before I came back - and that was only because someone posted how to trick the settings into displaying the working format.

        But the new beta is ten times worse - completely unusable, and in a format only an MBA and his designer girlfriend could love. It's not for nerds who like to discuss, and post more than 160 characters.

        Sorry, DICE, but Slashdot's user base is what makes it attractive. Alienate the user base, and you end up with nothing. Then the advertisers won't like you either.

        And no, you won't attract fresh blood. Fresh blood doesn't come to sites that don't provide anything special. What was special here was the userbase, and that userbase [b]will[/b] be gone, unless you fire the incompetent nincompoop who decided on deliberately alienating the one asset the site has.

    • Re:Beta (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Bob9113 (14996) on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @11:23PM (#46169913) Homepage

      I *LOVE* Slashdot. That's why I have spent so much time creating comments that I hope add value to the discourse, and put so much effort into my otherwise tenuous self-restraint regarding flaming. I come here to read comments, and to add value to the comment trees. I am happy for Dice to make a profit selling ads on the content our community creates by playing host.

      That is a really good trade for all of us, Dice. Don't screw it up.

      As for my personal #1 gripe: Don't require Javascript to read comments. OpenStreetMaps is content that begs to be browsed dynamically. Reading a comment tree is an almost entirely static endeavor. Keeping Javascript disabled on most sites is something I'm guessing a large portion of the audience here does. And remember: The audience creates the content. Lose one, you lose the other.

      The Spirit of Mohdri Dragon [wired.com] Lives!

      • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @11:35PM (#46169997)

        I too like Slashdot Beta, and I'm a person who's hard to please. For example -- I don't like the smells of roses, or wooden floors, or even gasoline -- but I love the smell of my shorts when they have that smell of yeasty nuts and testosterone accumulated through days of chronic masturbation. And that's what Beta means to me, the hard work of multiple days of hard work stroking and stroking and stroking and getting absolutely nowhere except for making a big mess all over myself. Sure, that might turn some people off, but being productive and cognizant are both overrated.

        But seriously, McGrew, fuck you for saying that I would be one of the few left after Beta takes hold -- that's like saying I'm willing to wipe my ass with the San Diego Union-Tribune -- I wouldn't dare disrespect my proud asshole by wiping it with such a piece of trash. It's a shame really, because I'm a troll and you are not, but I always liked you because I shared a mutual respect for not only the community, but the foundation on which it stood. And now that foundation is the UI equivalent of semen stains all over the place with little-else to show for it.

        This makes me so sick I'm going to masturbate.

        -- Ethanol-fueled

      • by couchslug (175151) on Thursday February 06, 2014 @01:16AM (#46170623)

        The redesign was ordered by a human.

        Who is he?

      • by Common Joe (2807741) on Thursday February 06, 2014 @10:36AM (#46173423) Journal

        I have seen more 3, 4, and 5 digit user IDs in the past 24 hours lambasting the beta. It's amazing. I even saw a 2 digit user ID throwing in his two cents. (I should have marked the spot but can't find it now.)

        -- Common Joe

        Slashdot Valentines Day Massacre: Boycott Slashdot because "Fuck Beta!": February 10 - 17

        And Support Okian Warrior's Alternate Slashdot [slashdot.org] Idea!

    • by mrsam (12205) on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @11:39PM (#46170009) Homepage

      Agreed that beta blows chunks. It's nothing more than change for the sake of change. It doesn't add any more features, it nothing but eye candy. Well, it's intended to be eye candy, but the problem is that eye candy is in the eye of the beholder. I challenge anyone to find any actual change in beta that's not eye candy.

      Having said that, I'm going to demand my money back. Oh wait...

      Thinking about this situation, a bit: as much as it sucks, I see no reason to really get excited about it. It's not like I'm paying for this shit. I looked at that eyesore briefly. and I figure this: if, and when, its the only way to waste time, around here, if I find that I can live with it, I'll live. If not, I'll find some other place to waste some time on. I've got plenty of stuff bookmarked. Dropping one entry won't make much of a difference, in the grand scheme of things.

      • by Teancum (67324) <(robert_horning) (at) (netzero.net)> on Thursday February 06, 2014 @12:05AM (#46170195) Homepage Journal

        I gave my formal feedback on Beta and flat out pointed it was just awful all around in my replies. I don't mind promoting off-topic threads on the issue too as clearly the folks running Slashdot don't have a clue as to what it is that the site has been or what they can do to maintain the community.

        If the beta becomes the standard interface, they will lose most of the traditional audience. I'm sure some folks will continue to stick around, but it won't be the same place. It sure is a hell of a gamble and it looks more like "not invented here" as a new generation takes over the site. It really is change simply for the sake of change and no other reason.

        Hell, I don't even like the cute photos on the beta site either.

      • by Thanosius (3519547) on Thursday February 06, 2014 @12:32AM (#46170383)

        Having said that, I'm going to demand my money back. Oh wait...

        Interestingly enough, Linux fanboys use the same argument when complaints about the state of various problems in Linux distros are raised... and then they wonder why not enough people use Linux.

        Just because you're not paying for something doesn't mean it's beyond criticism and reproach. Not only that, but Slashdot's probably one of the longest-service sites that a lot of people here would have gone to over the years. A lot are concerned that this is finally the tipping point where Slashdot will never recover. You of all people with an ID that small should be at least understanding of that, if not necessarily in agreement.

    • by SenorPez (840621) on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @11:47PM (#46170075) Homepage
      I, for many, do not welcome our vile beta overlords.
    • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @11:51PM (#46170095)

      Anonymous Coward here. Slashdot is trying to become http://www.nbcnews.com/

      All hope is lost.

    • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 06, 2014 @12:06AM (#46170205)

      As a web developer I understand exactly where they are coming from but the problem with their "highly marketable" design is that it has too much white and the font size is made for the blind. The design is "trendy" but it's not meant for this audience. This audience doesn't require anything fancy, things just need to work. Most of us are in I.T. somewhere and that's all we really care about, things working. We've all used something like lotus 1.2.3 where it's just a command prompt and as frustrating as those things were to use at times, they got the job done and did it fast enough to not feel annoyed. The non-beta version of the site worked fine, but it probably didn't generate enough revenue for DICE so they wanted to change the design around that could appeal better to advertisers. But face it, slashdot is a blog/news agrigator and there are millions of them around, thousands of which are likely better than /. ever could be but we stick around probably because most of us have been here for over 10 years. The news here is delivered late almost all the time sometimes a few weeks to a few years (not kidding). By pushing this new slashdot I think they are expecting to rebrand the site so that the "oldfags" will go away, stop complaining and appeal to a new generation, particularly those that have never been here or are still in late highschool / early college. I've seen companies do this over and over again, and rebranding is a big middle finger to those that have stook around for years even more than a decade like I have. So yeah, you can brush us aside but the moment that the beta is forced on us, I will be permanently leaving just as I have with Wired and Engadget. I appreciate websites that care about its consumers and when they do I disable ABP and do donate to those sites when they have a donation option available.

      So Slashdice, it's up to you, but a website like slashdot isn't meant for high revenue, I know this because I converted a few of my personal websites from for-profit to "not for profit" since ads aren't that great anymore for certain demographics, and I did so because I cared about the people, not because I wanted to gain more profits from them. Go for it, I dare you. But no matter what you do, slashdot in the end is not a profitable business like you guys think it is.

      And fix the "resource is no longer valid" BS. Every time I want to reply it does that so I have to refresh the page, find the thread I want to reply to and paste what I have.

    • by SGT CAPSLOCK (2895395) on Thursday February 06, 2014 @12:12AM (#46170251)

      srsly the beta sux

      ^ This comment looks ugly when viewed from the beta.

      I assure you that it's BEAUTIFUL when viewed from the classic version though!

      • by Kell Bengal (711123) on Thursday February 06, 2014 @02:25AM (#46170937)
        I am viewing from classic, and I assure you your comment has all the beauty of a cup of coffee in the morning, lit by a soothing green glow.

        That's how I will always remember Slashdot when this place is gone. It will be just a memory, but such memories they will be: people like OG and Taco and Ethanol and the GNAA, copypasta tolling about Obama and Al Gore, hot grits and the slashdot effect.

        Good memories.
    • by Princeofcups (150855) <john@princeofcups.com> on Thursday February 06, 2014 @12:25AM (#46170347) Homepage

      It's not even a close decision - it's pretty much unanimous amongst the users - the ones that provide 90+% of any meaningful content on this particular site in particular.

      Maybe we are not the customers any more. This is happening on cheezburger too. Every month they get rid of more sites with intelligent posting and replace it with something with fart jokes.

    • by TheNastyInThePasty (2382648) on Thursday February 06, 2014 @12:44AM (#46170461)

      The beta doesn't add any useful new features. All it doors is remove them and severely fucks up the best part of this site: the commenting and moderation system. If the commenting system goes out the window, why would I come here? The stories are always several days or a week old, the editors are terrible at their job, and all of the actual articles are on other sites I could browse instead.

      What the hell, Dice?

  • Fuck Beta (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @11:13PM (#46169817)

    Beta != Slashdot

    Once there's only beta, slashdot will cease to be slashdot. FUCK SOULLESS BETA

  • Buck Feta (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @11:14PM (#46169829)
    Feta cheese was on sale today for only a dollar a pound.

    That's a dollar and a pound of cheese more than the Slashdot beta is worth.

  • Beta... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @11:15PM (#46169837)

    Geez, when are they going to shit can this beta web site. It is total garbage.......

  • by nixon (12262) on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @11:16PM (#46169841)

    I've been a Slashdot quite a while, been so long I can't remember. This new beta site needs to go. The current layout works just fine. The new one looks like one of those SEO spam sites used to get clicks. Please make it go away.

    • by Areyoukiddingme (1289470) on Thursday February 06, 2014 @01:39AM (#46170761)

      This new beta site needs to go. The current layout works just fine. The new one looks like one of those SEO spam sites used to get clicks.

      I thought it was an SEO spam site the first time I saw it. I checked my browser address bar while muttering, "Shiiiit, hijacked," under my breath. I assumed those giant columns of white space on either side were jammed full of advertising banners that AdBlock had gleefully expurgated for me. In fact, I still think that.

      Come to find out it was real. I actually spent half an hour trying to use it. Found it not just stupidly ugly (if you're using fixed width on the web, you're DOING IT WRONG, ASSHOLES!), but also nonfunctional. So I found the "make this shit go away" button and never went back.

      Now they think they're going to force it on me? Ha. No more clicks for you, Dice.

    • by dmomo (256005) on Thursday February 06, 2014 @03:27AM (#46171167) Homepage

      OK. I've been on here forever... but looking at your id.. damn. Forever and a few years. I really hope beta bites it. Send all the people who like it over to http://slashdot.org/topic/bi/ [slashdot.org]

      And it would be nice if they didn't try to force me to use it on my ipad. I stay away from this site on mobile devices.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @11:17PM (#46169847)

    The Beta is not appealing to your base. Don't make your base stay home like Romney did. They'll go to Reddit or something other good site and stay there forever.

    DON'T ROMNEY SLASHDOT

    There are only 47% of us left as it is.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @11:18PM (#46169863)

    Is it just me, or has there been an amusing trend in the stories posted recently?

    Eg, there seems to be a correlation between the number of actual science and technology/engineering submissions getting through the editors, and the recent deluge of "fuck beta!" Posts...

    Maybe all we need to do to stop getting bitcoin and iDildo "advertimonial" submissions is to complain about slashdot's new layout engine and completely ignore the story subject matter entirely?

    Clearly, some testing is in order.

    • by M. Baranczak (726671) on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @11:40PM (#46170025)

      Yes, the trend is quite clear. Let's stay on it and see where it takes us. Who knows, by this time tomorrow, the editors might have explained the nature of dark matter, invented a better electric car battery, and brought back "Farscape". Either that, or their heads will have exploded. I see it as a win-win situation.

  • by stastuffis (632932) on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @11:19PM (#46169873)

    I've been coming to this place for a while, mostly for the discussion.

    I don't post much at all, but without an effective and easy way to consume/produce comments, this place is fucking worthless.

    DOWN WITH BETA.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @11:21PM (#46169885)

    On February 5, 2014, Slashdot announced through a javascript popup that they are starting to "move in to" the new Slashdot Beta design.

    Slashdot Beta is a trend-following attempt to give Slashdot a fresh look, an approach that has led to less space for text and an abandonment of the traditional Slashdot look. Much worse than that, Slashdot Beta fundamentally breaks the classic Slashdot discussion and moderation system.

    If you haven't seen Slashdot Beta already, open this [slashdot.org] in a new tab. After seeing that, click here [slashdot.org] to return to classic Slashdot.

    We should boycott stories and only discuss the abomination that is Slashdot Beta until Dice abandons the project.

    Moderators - only spend mod points on comments that discuss Beta
    Commentors - only discuss Beta
    http://slashdot.org/recent - Vote up the Fuck Beta stories

    Keep this up for a few days and we may finally get the PHBs attention.

    Captcha: fuckbeta

    http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4757125&cid=46169357
    http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4757125&cid=46169451
    http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4757045&cid=46168351
    http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4756947&cid=46167453

  • by fustakrakich (1673220) on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @11:21PM (#46169891) Journal

    I want all of you to get up out of your chairs. I want you to get up right now and go to the window. Open it, and stick your head out, and yell, "I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!" I want you to get up right now, sit up, go to your windows, open them and stick your head out and yell - "I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore!"

  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @11:22PM (#46169897)

    Someone told me that slashdot beta was developed by al-qaeda operatives. I don't want to support terrorists.
    Can anyone confirm this?

  • by denzacar (181829) on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @11:23PM (#46169911) Journal

    "NASA today said it was looking into fucking beta that would let the public fuck, bugger and dickplow beta known as "fucking beta" capable of sucking and being fucked near the moon and beyond. The first challenge will focus on finding innovative ways to allow deep fucking beta with small spacecraft, while the second focuses on fucking beta for small spacecraft."

  • by haster (660321) on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @11:28PM (#46169941)
    Look I visit this site nearly every day and more than once a lot of days and have for nearly 10 years. I rarely log in, a few times in past couple of years. I also admit that I use adblockers so it is unlikely you have or will ever make any money off of me. BUT THE BETA SUCKS. You will lose my eyeballs if you implement it. It just has too much white spaces and is not information dense enough for me.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @11:30PM (#46169947)

    Beta fucking sucks.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @11:43PM (#46170045)

    Here is Dice's "Contact Us" page. [diceholdingsinc.com] Everybody be sure to call them tomorrow using whatever numbers from that page you can get to ring. Tell every darn receptionist in every darn one of Dice's holdings, along with anyone you can get them to connect you to, that the Slashdot beta is terrible and you won't shut up until it goes away. Fax them a well-illustrated complaint or two or three. Send them a choice letter via snail mail, along with whatever memorabilia you wish.

    They keep soliciting our feedback, they can get our feedback, right where it counts.

    Spread the word by mentioning this in every article's comments.

    The most obvious contact points are:

    Dice Holdings Inc.
    1040 Avenue of the Americas, 8th Floor
    New York, NY 10018
    T: 212-725-6550
    F: 212-725-6559

    Slashdot
    594 Howard St Suite 300
    San Francisco, CA 94105
    Tel: +1-877-433-5638
    www.slashdot.com

  • Beta blows (Score:5, Insightful)

    by sharky611aol.com (682311) on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @11:44PM (#46170061)
    So I guess I still haven't been forced over to the dark side yet, but I went to try it out again to just see if it still sucks as bad as last time. And yup, it does. Completely unreadable, absurd amount of scrolling, ridiculous forced spacing, asinine column widths. Seriously, what's it going to take to make this die?
  • Buying Slashdot (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Gregory Arenius (1105327) on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @11:48PM (#46170083)

    What do you guys think a fair price for slashdot would be? I'm curious because I'm thinking about starting a kickstarter or something to buy slashdot and turn it into a community run forum.

    This site is valuable because of the community it has. I don't come here for the articles, I come here for the discussions. I know that the majority of the people who come here do so for the same reasons. DICE doesn't get that, and once they kill the community there won't be any real way to rebuild it. I think that would be a shame since I love this place. For all its flaws I think the community here is awesome.

    So, what do you guys think? Is it at all within the realm of reason to buy slashdot and make it ours?

    --Cheers,
    Greg

    • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 06, 2014 @12:02AM (#46170165)

      I say wait until a few months after the Beta goes live. By then 75% of their regular readers will have fled and you will be able to purchase it at rock bottom prices.

      • by Thanosius (3519547) on Thursday February 06, 2014 @12:39AM (#46170417)

        It's too late by then. When Digg changed their site they destroyed most of the appeal of people going there and lost most of their audience. Soon enough a site called reddit was born which had the same level of simplicity and community interactive as the old Digg had and it took off like wildfire. Eventually Digg reverted some of their changes and morphed into a semi-decent return to its own styling, but by then the damage had been done, reddit had made its mark and the rest, as they say, is history.

        Slashdot will never come back from this.

    • by drussell (132373) on Thursday February 06, 2014 @12:03AM (#46170185)

      What do you guys think a fair price for slashdot would be? I'm curious because I'm thinking about starting a kickstarter or something to buy slashdot and turn it into a community run forum.

      This site is valuable because of the community it has. I don't come here for the articles, I come here for the discussions. I know that the majority of the people who come here do so for the same reasons.

      Couldn't agree more... Except they'd never let us buy it... We apparently need to create a NewDot....

      DICE doesn't get that, and once they kill the community there won't be any real way to rebuild it. I think that would be a shame since I love this place. For all its flaws I think the community here is awesome.

      Amen, Brother....

      So, what do you guys think? Is it at all within the realm of reason to buy slashdot and make it ours?

      Highly unlikely.... Unfortunately.... Soon there will be nothing left here to be worthy of even an occasional visit and I find that very sad. :(

    • by couchslug (175151) on Thursday February 06, 2014 @01:40AM (#46170769)

      Damn fine idea. Dice bought it to fuck it up and doesn't have a mission, so they should be willing to sell it.

      We could return it to its former glory.

    • by AbRASiON (589899) * on Thursday February 06, 2014 @05:25AM (#46171611) Journal

      I'll wager 400 quatloos on the newcomer.

  • by CaptainStumpy (1132145) on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @11:51PM (#46170097)
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @11:55PM (#46170117)

    Here is Dice's "Contact Us" page. [diceholdingsinc.com] Everybody be sure to call them tomorrow using whatever numbers from that page you can get to ring. Tell every darn receptionist in every darn one of Dice's holdings, along with anyone you can get them to connect you to, that the Slashdot beta is terrible and you won't shut up until it goes away. Fax them a well-illustrated complaint or two or three. Send them a choice letter via snail mail, along with whatever memorabilia you wish.

    They keep soliciting our feedback, they can get our feedback, right where it counts.

    Spread the word by mentioning this in every article's comments.

    The most obvious contact points are:

    Dice Holdings Inc.
    1040 Avenue of the Americas, 8th Floor
    New York, NY 10018
    T: 212-725-6550
    F: 212-725-6559

    Slashdot
    594 Howard St Suite 300
    San Francisco, CA 94105
    Tel: +1-877-433-5638
    www.slashdot.com

  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @11:57PM (#46170131)

    Bring back CmdrTaco. Yeah, he never learned how to use a spell checker, but at least he would know better than to foist this beta abortion on us.

    • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 06, 2014 @12:02AM (#46170167)

      He's the one that sold out. I miss the pre-sale days and the gnaa and bsd is dying. If only there was aws for him back then, he wouldn't have needed to sell to do deal with scaling. If i'm wrong, please correct me. Thanks.

  • by elloGov (1217998) on Thursday February 06, 2014 @12:02AM (#46170169)
    Where has the option to disable advertising gone?
    Here's the funny thing. Out of appreciation of being given a choice, I chose to not disable. However, now that it's gone, I feel as if it's forced down my throat.
    I haven't tried Beta, but I'm gonna go ahead and join the revolt simply because "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". I'm satisfied with Slashdot Classic.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 06, 2014 @12:05AM (#46170201)

    beta is terrible. when i view /. I want to have as many entries visible as possible. Beta reduces entries visible immensely. Again, terrible.

  • by drussell (132373) on Thursday February 06, 2014 @12:11AM (#46170243)

    This Beta garbage dies in a burning ball of galactic-temperature-infused inferno...

    I should have seen this coming for months and set up a slashdot clone we could all move to... Hmm, shortsighted!

    Shut it off... Turn it off NOW! Bad, BAD experiment!

  • by Chewbacon (797801) on Thursday February 06, 2014 @12:13AM (#46170257)

    Nuff said. You're just pouring gas on a fire with your base. Slashdotters are apparently happy with the site as is and appreciate its familiar usefulness. Beta fucks it up. FUCK BETA.

  • by Kotoku (1531373) on Thursday February 06, 2014 @12:16AM (#46170293) Journal
    Slashdot Beta is the worst thing I have encountered in years. It's like someone took the metrics for time on page, click through rate, and advertising sales stats for pages viewed and total hits to create this abomination which is in no way useful to the users. I can get the content of Slashdot on Reddit/TechCrunch/AndroidCentral and more. I come here for the comments and the discussion. If you insist on killing the community I will throw in the towel on this site myself. Even "Slashdot Classic" used to be better before it was rolled out. Stop making things worse! It's like common sense doesn't work on you people.
  • by Jadeus (58441) on Thursday February 06, 2014 @12:18AM (#46170301)

    Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Quisque a rhoncus dui. Quisque aliquam lorem commodo tincidunt dignissim. Morbi nunc est, dignissim quis ullamcorper eu, varius sed mi. Vivamus tempor vehicula feugiat. Fusce dictum est faucibus mauris adipiscing ullamcorper. Phasellus id erat pellentesque dui ultrices dapibus. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Etiam nibh ante, malesuada eget lacinia ut, commodo nec diam. Proin fringilla metus nibh, ac sollicitudin lorem congue ut. Nunc quis metus auctor, luctus turpis vitae, varius purus. Sed non augue est. Sed consectetur feugiat nunc vel sodales. Etiam semper arcu quis lorem scelerisque, eget aliquam tellus blandit. Class aptent taciti sociosqu ad litora torquent per conubia nostra, per inceptos himenaeos. Etiam et odio ut eros semper ultricies quis nec nunc. Maecenas enim quam, semper ac elementum et, euismod ut diam.

    We'll prolly just end up with disabled accounts, but at this point that's not much of a loss. ;-(

  • by ub3r n3u7r4l1st (1388939) on Thursday February 06, 2014 @12:19AM (#46170315)

    Try it.

  • by 2phar (137027) on Thursday February 06, 2014 @12:21AM (#46170323)
    I guess Ars is the place to go, even though the comments system is nearly as bad as the Slashdot Beta, at least the stories are fresher. The beginning of the end was when they launched SlashBI and we all thought it was an April Fools gag.
  • by maliqua (1316471) on Thursday February 06, 2014 @12:24AM (#46170341)

    I generally left the advertisements enabled because i wanted to support slashdot, heck some were even interesting occasionally. but until they shove beta up their ass i will keep ads disabled and definitely wont give them a click

  • by rugfrog (677604) on Thursday February 06, 2014 @12:39AM (#46170413)
    If I wanted tons of wasted white space and larger fonts, I'd run windows 8 on a 50" TV. But I don't do that. Because I don't want that. Just like I DONT WANT THE BETA. Kill it, please.
  • by Any Web Loco (555458) on Thursday February 06, 2014 @12:41AM (#46170437) Homepage
    Come back Jon Katz! All is forgiven! Screw Beta!
  • by vomitology (2780489) on Thursday February 06, 2014 @01:31AM (#46170713)
    hashtag buckfeta yes.
  • by Areyoukiddingme (1289470) on Thursday February 06, 2014 @01:52AM (#46170831)

    Fucking SlashBeta. Nobody wants to talk about tiny spacecraft. :(

    Where will I go to talk about tiny spacecraft where I can read just the gems, without having to wade through all the dross in some bullshit forum format? For that matter, where can I go to read about tiny spacecraft where the people posting actually know anything? So much of WannabeSpace is jammed full of know-nothings who wouldn't recognize the rocket equation if it bit them on the ass. Sure, even on Slashdot, I'd only expect 100 or so posts, from the still credible mob of users (hundreds of thousands?), and a bunch of those would be bad jokes, but at least there'd be something.

    Fucking beta...

    • by demosthenes (16815) on Thursday February 06, 2014 @05:06AM (#46171521)

      Beta is the current Charlie-Foxtrot the Slashdot community is dealing with, and we're nothing if not navel-gazing when it comes to change. Though usually that change isn't quite as damaging as Beta is in the current form. However, for /. to continue to be a useful source of information, the commentators should prove the necessity they are to the success of the site by actually posting useful content, along with the quite justified complaints about the new system being forced on the users.

      That having been said, this is a very interesting change in direction for the microsat community. Most microsats live for a few months (at best) in Low Earth orbit. The current NASA contests are for what are essentially the first deep-space microsats, which can potentially (with the right design) perform useful science for decades or more, far away from Earth. Just how much useful propulsion can you cram into a satellite that weighs 3 pounds? With cheap, consumer-level sensors and a few government waivers, I would think quite a lot. The potential of a swarm of mini-RTG-powered microsats zooming around the Solar System towards or around various planets could yield quite a lot of useful science. Not to mention that this could be a useful demonstration for future Von-Newmann probes, simple machines created from raw materials, in an asteroid or planetary moon and spread throughout the Solar System (and beyond?), exploring, replicating, and continuing to send valuable data to Earth to inform future exploration or colonization..

      • by Areyoukiddingme (1289470) on Thursday February 06, 2014 @11:31PM (#46182435)

        Just how much useful propulsion can you cram into a satellite that weighs 3 pounds? With cheap, consumer-level sensors and a few government waivers, I would think quite a lot. The potential of a swarm of mini-RTG-powered microsats zooming around the Solar System towards or around various planets could yield quite a lot of useful science.

        I wonder just how well a cubesat can survive out beyond Earth's Van Allen belts. And transiting them, for that matter. Especially given such choices as consumer-grade sensors and other electronics. Such chips really don't like hard radiation, and that form factor makes it rather difficult to wedge in any sort of effective radiation shielding, or sufficient redundancy to maintain sanity when you take a particle to the knee.

        And I suspect there's a minimum functional size for an RTG that is larger than a CubeSat. One would think covering 3 adjacent faces of the cube with 44% efficient solar cells would do the job. It's not like there's even room for a lot of electronics to use that power.

        It's a fascinating topic that still has a lot of room for development. Historically, satellite designers have thought in terms of tons and hundreds of millions of dollars. Thinking in terms of grams and individual dollars is alien to the endeavor. This year will see only the third CubeSat conference. There are a piddling 15 papers listed on cubesat.org, only 14 of which have links. That's a pretty miserable showing for 15 years of development.

        Here's hoping SpaceX continues to accommodate CubeSat secondary payloads.

  • by mugnyte (203225) on Thursday February 06, 2014 @03:29AM (#46171179) Journal
  • by adolf (21054) <flodadolf@gmail.com> on Thursday February 06, 2014 @05:32AM (#46171649) Journal

    Every attempt to improve Slashdot's display -except- for the Threaded view introduced by Taco well over a decade ago has been a dismal and utter failure that nobody actually likes.

    Even those that thought they liked the previous round of UI "improvements" because they had never seen Slashdot in its glory breath a sigh of relief when shown how to enable "Classic" with the old D1 discussion system.

    Seriously, Dice: We're all leaving once "beta" becomes the only reality. We'll build something else. And we'll slashdot every article with comments telling folks about the new place, and moderate all such comments as "Informative" while moderating any topicful commentary as "Offtopic."

    Once we find a new place to hang out (and we will -- many hands make light work), we'll all be doing our best to destroy whatever value the ghost of Slashdot might have once had.

    Do you know how I know that this will happen? Because this is the first time that the folks on Slashdot have actually agreed on anything, ever, in the history of these pages. It is an unprecedented and historic event. And any time you get this number of disagreeable people disagreeing in unison, change is inevitable.

    Fuck your beta.

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