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Israeli Group To Attempt Moon Landing 150

Posted by Soulskill
from the fly-me-to-the-moon dept.
cold fjord writes: "NDTV reports, 'Israel plans to do what only the world's biggest countries have so far managed to do: land an unmanned spacecraft on the moon ... only Russia, the U.S. and China have soft landed on the moon, and India hard landed its tri-colour using the moon impact probe in 2008 ... The washing machine-sized spacecraft that weighs 121 kilograms is being readied by a not-for-profit venture called SpaceIL. ... The Israeli lunar probe had its genesis after the $30 million Google Lunar X Prize was announced as a competition which challenged non-state-owned space agencies to land on the moon, send back photos, and move 500 meters on the surface of the moon. About two dozen global teams are racing to win the prize- SpaceIL reckons it's in pole position. ... ex-NASA engineer Yonatan Winetraub and two of his friends conceived of the spacecraft in 2010 ... then used a Facebook page to promote the dream. Today, the dream has matured into a $36 million mission with 20 full time employees and 250 volunteers. ... Around 40,000 school students have been associated with this project.' Further details are available here."
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Israeli Group To Attempt Moon Landing

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  • by Ellis D. Tripp (755736) on Friday January 31, 2014 @07:21PM (#46124583) Homepage
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 31, 2014 @07:23PM (#46124597)

    Someone convince them the Muslims got there first, and are living in craters... then we'll get loads of colonists on the moon in no time.

  • Let's wish the first Israeli moon probe a better landing than the first Israeli astronaut.

  • by Kuroji (990107) <kuroji@gmail.com> on Friday January 31, 2014 @07:31PM (#46124655)

    Going to the moon isn't merely a curiosity or a scientific achievement. It's a statement to the world that you were able to accurately land a payload on a target more than 350,000 km away. If you can do that with a rocket that leaves near-Earth orbit, it means you can do it with one that does not leave Earth orbit.

    In other words, moon landings are how you tell the world you have ICBMs (or at least the ability to make them) without the public throwing a fit about it.

    • by Ellis D. Tripp (755736) on Friday January 31, 2014 @07:39PM (#46124701) Homepage

      Putting a satellite into a predetermined orbit proves the same thing, without the added expense of going all the way to the moon...

      • by khallow (566160) on Friday January 31, 2014 @07:47PM (#46124769)
        Exactly. This accuracy greatly exceeds any ICBM need. And Israel has already put things in orbit with six successful launches [wikipedia.org] so far so any need for that bit of posturing has been satisfied.
      • by DaHat (247651)

        By that logic... there is little difference between Sputnik & Apollo 11.

        Both were based largely on the same principals & sciences... only while the latter was not only a lot more expensive & complicated, also stands as greater proof of ones technological abilities.

        • By that logic... there is little difference between Sputnik & Apollo 11.

          As far as demonstrating a capacity for deploying an ICBM (which is what is being considered here), there wasn't any.

          Once you can put a booster into a predetermined orbit, and release a payload at a precise point, you essentially have the ability to deliver a warhead to any point on the planet.

          The additional technologies involved in deep space travel/navigation, long term thermal and power management, astronaut life support, or the ability to soft-land on the moon and lift off again are irrelevant to lobbin

    • exactamount.....first the Nukes, then the Moon. Alice, to the Moon!
    • by cusco (717999) <brian.bixby@gma i l .com> on Friday January 31, 2014 @07:59PM (#46124849)

      Really? This garbage again? India launches a probe to Mars and the Luddites scream "IT'S AN ICBM!!" Now Israel. Utter stupidity. Do you think that generals in Israel and India do not talk to their counterparts in Pakistan and Iran? Is this actually a surprise to anyone who has been paying any attention AT ALL to the advancement of aerospace science over the last half a century? Targeting systems aren't even considered high-tech any more, you could program an Arduino board and a GPS receiver to do it.

      Here's a headline for you: SpaceX and Virgin Galactic Can Produce ICBMs! Run And Hide!

      Frelling idiots.

    • by murdocj (543661) on Friday January 31, 2014 @08:38PM (#46125107)

      Or maybe, just maybe, it's a scientific accomplishment that a technologically advanced nation would like to achieve. They don't have to land on the moon to remind the other nations in the Middle East that this probably isn't the best time to start another pogrom.

      • Or maybe, just maybe, it's a scientific accomplishment that a technologically advanced nation would like to achieve. They don't have to land on the moon to remind the other nations in the Middle East that this probably isn't the best time to start another pogrom.

        They don't have to, but it's a very clear message, from a sometimes-aggressive and presumed nuclear nation.

        There are basically three reasons to do it. (1) It's fucking cool. (2) It's a message to their enemies that they are capable of building ICBMs and putting their nukes anywhere on the planet. (3) It will be useful in domestic political campaigns.

        Reason (1) is the best one, but it is exceptionally rare for countries to fund things for reason (1). (2) and/or (3) are FAR more likely.

        • by murdocj (543661) on Friday January 31, 2014 @11:50PM (#46126083)

          "sometimes-aggressive" as in Israel occasionally have to push back against the surrounding countries that want to finish what Hitler started.

  • well... (Score:4, Funny)

    by __Paul__ (1570) on Friday January 31, 2014 @07:31PM (#46124659) Homepage

    Maybe ... the ... author ... should ... try ... writing ... an ... article ... in ... full ... sentences

  • by Anonymous Coward
    Are they planning to relocate the Palestinians to the moon?
    • The comment right above, about relocating Palestinians to the moon was modded funny.
      The comment right below, about relocating Israeli settlers to the moon was modded troll.

      Can we meta-mod the mods?

      • by mrbluze (1034940)

        The comment right above, about relocating Palestinians to the moon was modded funny. The comment right below, about relocating Israeli settlers to the moon was modded troll.

        Can we meta-mod the mods?

        Maybe we need a funny troll mod that equates to zero karma.

        • by dbIII (701233)
          A funny mod is zero karma these days isn't it? When it wasn't a few recycled jokes were all that was required to hit the karma cap.
  • If they can send all of the "settlers" there, instead of into Palestine.

    (Why am I imagine a mash up between Gil Scott Heron [youtu.be] and Mel Brooks?
  • But this has long since ceased to be any sort of technical challenge or accomplishment.

    Putting a lander on the moon (or, even, for that matter, a human) is not much of a technical challenge, insofar as needing to do anything other than learn how to properly use complex (but well-known) technology.

    There's a whole raft of small aerospace companies (of which SpaceX is merely the best known) with funding in the low millions than can produces a lunar lander for you within 6 months of a go-ahead. And buildin

    • But this has long since ceased to be any sort of technical challenge or accomplishment.

      Really? How many things have *YOU* soft-landed on the moon?

      • by murdocj (543661)

        Wish I had some mod points to rate you up... that was the first thing I wondered. I mean, landing on the moon is SO easy, anybody can stick a firecracker on a tin can and do it.

    • by isorox (205688)

      But this has long since ceased to be any sort of technical challenge or accomplishment.

      Putting a lander on the moon (or, even, for that matter, a human) is not much of a technical challenge, insofar as needing to do anything other than learn how to properly use complex (but well-known) technology.

      The U.S. can't rebuild Saturn V rockets. Hell it can't even put someone into low earth orbit.

      Space is still hard.

  • by ffkom (3519199) on Friday January 31, 2014 @07:51PM (#46124797)
    ... than making peace with your neighbours. ;-)
    • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

      Especially when you consider that most of your neighbors (if not all) belong to a religion that forbids them from making peace with anybody who doesn't share their religion. At best, you can get a long-term truce, but never peace. Who knows? Maybe flying to the Moon will help persuade the more reasonable factions in the Middle East that a very, very long-term truce with Israel is a Good Idea.
      • by ffkom (3519199)
        I recommend this entertaining quiz [landoverbaptist.org] for more insight on how peaceful either religion is.
      • by mrbluze (1034940)

        Especially when you consider that most of your neighbors (if not all) belong to a religion that forbids them from making peace with anybody who doesn't share their religion.

        Which religion were you referring to?

        • Islam. Though technically they allow peace with another religion as long as the people practicing it wholly submit to their Muslim overlords and pay a tax for the privilege of existing.
    • well if that jerk would just keep his dog off my yard...

    • by BlueStrat (756137)

      I'll just leave this here...

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... [youtube.com]

      Strat

  • Uh oh - What about the Nazis hiding out up there on the Moon? This can't end well...
  • and they shouldn't have used a washing machine.
  • History of the World, Courtesy of Mel Brooks [youtube.com].
  • by whistlingtony (691548) on Friday January 31, 2014 @08:47PM (#46125159)
    The article starts off with "Israel Plans", except it's not Israel, it's an organization inside Israel? I had a salad for lunch. "America has salad for lunch! Later plans to visit restroom!"
    • mod parent up because there is a HUGE difference between a small group and a state doing this.

      The washing machine-sized spacecraft that weighs 121 kilograms is being readied by a not-for-profit venture called SpaceIL which operates out of a small non-descript office donated to it by Tel Aviv University.

  • Is it just me or is there no reference to launch date whatsoever?
  • ...so could this "lunar rocket" be "accidentally" targeted at Palestine?

  • Is the moon kosher???

  • by drwho (4190)

    This would be really great, the first step towards an Israeli colony on the moon. This ought to give them enough room, without being shoulder-to-shoulder with hostile neighbors.

  • ...or erect expandable walls around the landing site?

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