Simulations Back Up Theory That Universe Is a Hologram 433
ananyo writes "A team of physicists has provided some of the clearest evidence yet that our Universe could be just one big projection. In 1997, theoretical physicist Juan Maldacena proposed that an audacious model of the Universe in which gravity arises from infinitesimally thin, vibrating strings could be reinterpreted in terms of well-established physics. The mathematically intricate world of strings, which exist in nine dimensions of space plus one of time, would be merely a hologram: the real action would play out in a simpler, flatter cosmos where there is no gravity. Maldacena's idea thrilled physicists because it offered a way to put the popular but still unproven theory of strings on solid footing — and because it solved apparent inconsistencies between quantum physics and Einstein's theory of gravity. It provided physicists with a mathematical Rosetta stone, a 'duality', that allowed them to translate back and forth between the two languages, and solve problems in one model that seemed intractable in the other and vice versa. But although the validity of Maldacena's ideas has pretty much been taken for granted ever since, a rigorous proof has been elusive. In two papers posted on the arXiv repository, Yoshifumi Hyakutake of Ibaraki University in Japan and his colleagues now provide, if not an actual proof, at least compelling evidence that Maldacena's conjecture is true."
Re:wow (Score:5, Insightful)
In other words, what are YOU doing to cure cancer since you think that "scientists" should focus on cancer instead of XX.
Re:wow (Score:4, Insightful)
why oh why are scientists wasting time on this? one step at at time, for now figure out how to cure cancer before worrying about the big picture. you must unzip your pants before worrying about how much piss comes out
Really???? If all "scientists" thought like that then we wouldn't be in a position to even KNOW what *cancer* is. We'd be stuck on a problem prior to that hundreds of years ago.
Science is all about looking far and wide for answers. Sometimes things are immediately applicable to your specific problem/condition/annoyance/life, but sometimes they aren't.
Applied science / engineering is more about solutions to your specific problem. Perhaps you can go ask the bio-medical engineers to hurry it up, but leave the scientists alone!
Re:wow (Score:5, Insightful)
why are you wasting time reading Slashdot? Millions of children are dying in Africa as we speak. You must go help them before worrying about anything else.
Re:so does this mean.... (Score:5, Insightful)
I read the FTA and I didn't get any proof that we were living in a simulation at all. The article basically says some physicists ran two simulations for a black hole -- one with quantum theory (single dimension) and the other with a (more traditional) 10-dimensional model. The results matched.
Several take aways: 1) Great work by the physicists 2) I thought the standard models had eleven dimensions and not ten 3) I still don't know what they are talking about because this stuff is way beyond me 4) There is no mention about whether this proves one way or another that our universe is a hologram or a simulation.
The FTA is throwing around the word hologram, but IMHO that is a bit a stretch. Or maybe I don't know the official scientific definition of a hologram.
Re:Horseshit (Score:2, Insightful)
Holograms are not projected 'onto' something.
They 'materialize' in thin air, that is the point about a hologram. (Hollow != Solid)
Re:Oh, it's a lot older than that. (Score:4, Insightful)
Your point is like people who say, "the Old Testament forbids the eating of shellfish like shrimp, and we know now that shrimp is high in cholesterol, so that book is an excellent source of dietary wisdom."
Re:Horseshit (Score:5, Insightful)
This isn't to say that this theory is right or wrong, merely that groundbreaking theories almost invariably will look like "mathematical fancy" to most people (especially those with "get off my lawn!" syndrome) and will be met with confusion or denial by a lot of others, including respected scientists. It's crazy, but it might just work. Remember: the universe wasn't designed so that our puny minds would find it logical or straightforward. It just is.
Re:On Other Dimensions (Score:2, Insightful)
I can move in an infinite* number of directions, but in 3D space I can put in one point only 3 lines which are perpendicular to each other.
If we have more dimensions, we just replace the word "perpendicular" with "orthogonal".
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* Or a very very high number if space is finite & discrete.
Re:so does this mean.... (Score:5, Insightful)
Nothing very new, and nothing about our universe (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:A projection of what? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:A projection of what? (Score:5, Insightful)
One can manipulate math to to describe or answer pretty much anything you want. Just because the equations match what's happening does not mean they describe what's going on.
Who cares? As long as the equations match what's happening (and what's going to happen), does it matter what's "really" going on? We've been doing quantum mechanics for almost a century now, and still no one actually knows what it all means - but we're perfectly happy to take advantage of QM in our technology.
Re:A projection of what? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:A projection of what? (Score:1, Insightful)
no, it is not. Not by any stretch.
All you post tells me is tat you don't know what science is; or possible, but unlikely, what religion is..
Actually, for most lay people, science and religion are very similar as they both require one to accept things on the faith or testimony of others. Very few people have actually done the calculations or proofs or expirments themself, instead relying on what has been passed down to them by the high priests. That is just as true for science as religion, with the exception that when dealing with science we don't use the term "high priests," but instead some other term, but the process is the same. Those with special insight pass on the belief system to the next generation.
Not all religions have a deity, but all religions have a belief system. So, too, does science.
Re:A projection of what? (Score:5, Insightful)
At some point, science has to put forth something that's not only consistent but testable. Religion appears to be exempt from that troublesome requirement.
And a scientific theory can be falsified by new evidence. Religion, not so much.
As for science having a "belief system", I strongly suggest you not attempt to "disbelieve" in gravity while near the edge of a high building or in electromagnetism while sticking an uninsulated conductor into a live socket.