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Just Thinking About Science Triggers Moral Behavior 347

ananyo writes "The association between science and morality is so ingrained that merely thinking about it can trigger more moral behavior, according to a study by researchers at the University of California Santa Barbara. The researchers hypothesized that there is a deep-seated perception of science as a moral pursuit — its emphasis on truth-seeking, impartiality and rationality privileges collective well-being above all else. The researchers conducted four separate studies to test this. In the first, participants read a vignette of a date-rape and were asked to rate the 'wrongness' of the offense before answering a questionnaire measuring their belief in science. Those reporting greater belief in science condemned the act more harshly. In the other three, participants primed with science-related words were more altruistic."
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Just Thinking About Science Triggers Moral Behavior

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  • I hypothesize.. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Jmc23 ( 2353706 ) on Tuesday August 27, 2013 @02:20PM (#44688771) Journal
    that these researchers falsified this study to detract attention from all their previously falsified studies.
  • by mveloso ( 325617 ) on Tuesday August 27, 2013 @02:27PM (#44688853)

    Note: Psychological studies performed on US undergraduates generally don't apply to humans in general.

    http://lesswrong.com/lw/17x/beware_of_weird_psychological_samples/ [lesswrong.com]

    Remembering the people who were Psych majors in school, I'd say that they probably were the least representative sample of humanity possible.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 27, 2013 @02:30PM (#44688901)

    It seems like the study's results would be consistent with either hypothesis...

    Or logical thinking.

    Heck, just plan "thinking" would probably do since most people don't bother to do that before reacting.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 27, 2013 @02:32PM (#44688913)
    Where the crap did you dig up that definition of "moral?"
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 27, 2013 @02:41PM (#44688995)

    scientists have above average morals.

    In other news, 90% of all people say they are above average drivers.

  • by Nadaka ( 224565 ) on Tuesday August 27, 2013 @02:47PM (#44689075)

    To a certain degree it is. Your genes will not survive in the long run if your species does not.

  • by bill_mcgonigle ( 4333 ) * on Tuesday August 27, 2013 @02:54PM (#44689149) Homepage Journal

    Except that altruism is not logical.

    It's extremely hard to find an example of pure altruism that doesn't have benefits for one's self or family/community.

  • Re:I hypothesize.. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by fahrbot-bot ( 874524 ) on Tuesday August 27, 2013 @03:13PM (#44689363)

    funny, I wish more republicans thought about science.

    Democrats too, but they are only quasi-evil.

    Conversely, one would think that thinking about religion and faith would trigger moral behavior, but, sadly, I haven't found that to (generally) be the case. [ I'm not trolling, just offering my (disappointing) observation. Perhaps I need to meet a different (but not necessarily better) class of people... ]

    Personally, I think most politicians only think about money, power and getting re-elected (perhaps the first two are redundant) - for their own selfish desires.

    /cynical

  • Re:I hypothesize.. (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Threni ( 635302 ) on Tuesday August 27, 2013 @03:17PM (#44689407)

    > Conversely, one would think that thinking about religion and faith would trigger moral
    > behavior

    One wouldn't. A 2000+ year old book (older, in some cases) fraudulently constructed by ignorant, illiterate peasant halfwits from a time before justice and democracy is not conducive to challenging beliefs or finding accurate answers to relevant problems. That's why the most religious countries are the most fucked.

  • Re:I hypothesize.. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by LordLimecat ( 1103839 ) on Tuesday August 27, 2013 @03:38PM (#44689635)

    A 2000+ year old book (older, in some cases) fraudulently constructed by ignorant, illiterate peasant halfwits from a time before justice and democracy

    Youre knowledge of history is truly astounding. Do tell, when do you suppose the Roman Republic existed? Or the democratic Greek city-states?

  • by Dcnjoe60 ( 682885 ) on Tuesday August 27, 2013 @04:21PM (#44690139)

    The beauty of science is that you don't have to believe in it, in the sense of 'to believe' meaning 'to accept on someone else's authority.' I point this out because I have a feeling I would be ranked extremely highly on this 'belief in science' scale while I consider myself to not believe in science at all; the authority of science derives from empirical testing and reason, not belief.

    The beauty of science is that unless you have conducted the research yourself or performed the proofs yourself, you in fact are accepting things on someone else's authority. In philosophical parlance this is known as accepting the testimony of others. It holds true whether one relies on the testimony of learned scientists or religious leaders. In both cases, a belief system is created, codified, passed down and accepted by others.

    Unless one does the empirical testing for themself, they do not have first had knowledge of the phenomenon being tested but rely on the testimony of others. How do we know the earth revolves around the sun? Most of us have not down the equations or performed the experiments to prove it, we have excepted the testimony of others. Granted if enough experts testify to the same thing it adds credence to their testimony, but still, we are accepting something as true as an act of faith that the others are correct.

    As such, while science does involve empirical testing, its authority relies very much on the testimony of those who conduct that testing, in otherwords, belief. In the end, almost everything we "know" we don't actually know, but instead we believe - including where the authority of science comes from.

    Disclaimer: I am not saying scientific belief is the same as religious belief nor am I raising religious inquiry upto the level of scientific inquiry, so please do not go there.

  • by femtobyte ( 710429 ) on Tuesday August 27, 2013 @04:28PM (#44690217)

    Why do women wear high heels shoes...

    Have you ever considered asking a woman about why she chooses the clothing she wears, instead of simply assuming that all women's lives and decisions revolve around becoming receptacles for your penis? Ever think someone might want to wear clothes that they find attractive (or, perhaps just comfortable), without doing so to beg for non-consensual sex? Would you consider a man wearing spiffy attractive clothes to be asking to get ass-raped by any homosexual who found them attractive? Are you so psychotically out-of-control that you can't keep your dick in your pants at the sight of a little cleavage or tall shoes? Note, many human societies permit women to be topless without constantly being raped... it's not a "natural, scientifically-proven fact" that the typical male is so helplessly weak-willed that they can't hold back from rape sprees at the slightest provocation. If you have personal problems with this, then please take a tiny bit of personal responsibility and lock yourself up away from human society, rather than demand every female wear burqas to prevent your uncontrollable rape-rages.

  • Re:I hypothesize.. (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Oligonicella ( 659917 ) on Tuesday August 27, 2013 @06:45PM (#44691491)
    True. Democracy as practiced by the ancient Greeks would be hard to implement today, what with their not letting women vote and keeping slaves and all.

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