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Looking Beyond Corn and Sugarcane For Cost-Effective Biofuels 242

carmendrahl writes "The abundance of shale gas in the U.S. is expected to lower the cost of petrochemicals for fuel and other applications, making it harder for plant-based, renewable feedstocks to compete in terms of price. In the search for cost-competitive crops, companies are testing plants other than traditional biofuel sources such as corn and sugarcane. In this video, you can see how a company is test-growing a relative of sugarcane, which is expected to yield 5 times the ethanol per acre compared to corn."
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Looking Beyond Corn and Sugarcane For Cost-Effective Biofuels

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  • Sugar Beet (Score:0, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 12, 2013 @11:32AM (#44542145)

    Corn and sugarcane got nothing on the sugar beet.

  • by noh8rz10 ( 2716597 ) on Monday August 12, 2013 @11:42AM (#44542283)
    I hate video. Too real-time. Like TV news, I can read the majority of nyt.com in the space of the evening news. I assume the video is about switchgrass, can anybody confirm?
  • by iotaborg ( 167569 ) <exa@sof t h o m e.net> on Monday August 12, 2013 @11:51AM (#44542421) Homepage

    Actually it isn't that terrible on cloudy/rainy days. We have a solar panel installed on our house in the pacific northwest of the US, which is 100% cloud/rain in the winter months. Energy generated is 100-300 kWh per month in the winter, 500-700 kWh per month in the sunny summers. Obviously nothing in the nights. Excess production in the summer pays for the shortfall in the winter (paid by utility company), so it works out.

  • by peter303 ( 12292 ) on Monday August 12, 2013 @11:51AM (#44542427)
    The best plants are convert 1.5% [wikipedia.org] of incoming sunlight when factoring length of growing cycle and planting density. Cheap solar panels are five times more efficient. More expensive solar technologies and/or concentrators gets into double digits.

    However when you include the costs of the entire system- the startup capital, intermediate fuel type and distribution- the current cost-efficiency of both become more comparable.
  • Re:Sugar Beet (Score:5, Informative)

    by ShanghaiBill ( 739463 ) on Monday August 12, 2013 @11:58AM (#44542503)

    Corn and sugarcane got nothing on the sugar beet.

    Acre for acre, sugar beets get more subsidies [cato.org] than corn, if you include the protective tariffs on sugar imports. There is no way that beets can compete with cane in a free market.

  • by H0p313ss ( 811249 ) on Monday August 12, 2013 @12:15PM (#44542701)

    My question: Is ground for growing food crops affected by this? If farmers all grow switchgrass/hemp/$whatever and make more money selling that for fuel, then it will spike food prices, which can cause major problems down the line (people can put up with a lot of injustice, but if they are starving, all bets are off.)

    Ethically, I can't support a fuel that takes food out of people's mouths, even though ethanol has a number of decent advantages.

    Excellent question, this is already subject to debate [wikipedia.org].

    There are three major areas of concern here, food vs. fuel, CO2 emissions/footprint and the ecological cost of production.

    In my opinion CO2 emissions [wikipedia.org] is the elephant in the room for biofuels. Extensive production and consumption of biofuels may ween us off fossil fuels but it does nothing to address just how stupid it is for us to be modifying the chemical composition of the atmosphere.

    Note that the process of biofuel production does not exist in a vacuum, like any other agricultural activity it has a direct ecological impact furthermore the vast majority of current agricultural practice involves burning fuels (tractors and other farm equipment) and the use of inorganic commercial fertilizer which also has a wide variety of impacts such as the seepage of phosphates in runoff leading to downstream agae blooms. [wikipedia.org]

    IMHO, the development of biofuels is just robbing Peter to pay Paul. While other alternative power sources are less efficient, more costly or less power dense the vast majority of systems that are currently in production, (wind, water, solar) are both profitable and significantly better for the environment.

  • by noh8rz10 ( 2716597 ) on Monday August 12, 2013 @01:09PM (#44543255)
    It's not that my attention span is short, it's that I can absorb info like a fire hose, while real time video is a trickle. I can type faster than conversation speed as well. Given the mods on my original comment, I think many people agree with me!
  • Re:Sugar Beet (Score:4, Informative)

    by Hatta ( 162192 ) on Monday August 12, 2013 @01:14PM (#44543349) Journal

    I think beets get a bad name due to everyone using canned beets. I haven't prepared fresh beets myself, but I've had beet coleslaw made from fresh beets that was fantastic. Julienned beets, red cabbage, shallots, oil & vinegar, IIRC. Really pretty too.

  • by Belial6 ( 794905 ) on Monday August 12, 2013 @01:48PM (#44543697)
    You don't have to worry about the CO2 emissions. One of the benefits of bio-fuel is that the carbon in the plants was taken out of the air. With bio-fuels you only add as much CO2 to the air as you take out.

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