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Dmitry Itskov Wants To Help You Live Forever Via an Android Avatar 383

trendspotter writes in with the latest news about the 2045 Project. "If Russian billionaire Dmitry Itskov has his way, the human lifespan will soon no longer depend on the limitations of the human body. Itskov, a Russian tycoon and former media mogul, is the founder of the 2045 Project — a venture that seeks to replace flesh-and-blood bodies with robotic avatars, each one uploaded with the contents of a human brain. The goal: to extend human lives by hundreds or thousands of years, if not indefinitely."
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Dmitry Itskov Wants To Help You Live Forever Via an Android Avatar

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  • Ok, but... (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 13, 2013 @12:35AM (#43992357)

    Unless you can transfer your consciousness you're still going to be dead.

  • Re:Ok, but... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Black Parrot ( 19622 ) on Thursday June 13, 2013 @01:01AM (#43992435)

    Perhaps your consciousness could be transferred into an electronic brain the same way it was transferred from your brain several years ago to your current brain: cell by cell.

    FYI, brains don't progressively replace themselves like some organs do. You have almost all the neurons you'll ever have when you're born. There was a story here a few days ago about the discovery of a small region of the hippocampus that does generate new cells, unlike most of the rest of the brain.

    Your post also brings up another interesting thought, a question raised by ancient philosophers. Suppose Jason comes home on the Argo and props it up on blocks to keep for a souvenir. As the years go by, whenever a plank rots he replaces it with a new one. Does it stop being the Argo at some point?

  • Any guesses? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by fuzzyfuzzyfungus ( 1223518 ) on Thursday June 13, 2013 @01:05AM (#43992457) Journal

    How long before existing ransomware is adapted to these bold robotic avatars, and the infected get the exciting opportunity to not have the sensation of full-body chemical burns replayed on loop in exchange for a modest and reasonable payment by Western Union?

  • Transporters (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Black Parrot ( 19622 ) on Thursday June 13, 2013 @01:11AM (#43992479)

    ISTM that Star Trek transporters are a type of 3D scanner/printer. But somehow they have to get your hundred-trillion synapses to connect the right cells, and at the right connection strength. Possibly even the current neural firing patterns, since when you get 'printed' you immediately have all your facilities and remember what you were up to when you got into the transporter.

    I don't think that's ever going to be possible. But if it was, would the end result still be you, or just an artificial twin?

    If transporter technology was feasible, they should be able to keep the original and print the copy using the contents of the refrigerator. I suppose that, like forking a process, it wouldn't be easy for the participants to tell who is the original and who is the copy, but I wouldn't expect them to share a common consciousness.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 13, 2013 @01:14AM (#43992503)

    What would that mean and is there any reason why both goals are mutually exclusive? Certainly not every great rocket scientist would be great at psychology or ethics. The good thing about living forever is that you have a lot more time to fix the problems.

    I just hate this "we aren't worthy" atitude. We sure haven't done everything right. Far from. But life has only become more peaceful and in general a lot has improved. Many deaths in the stone age were actually from tribal wars. We no longer solve our problems through violence as often as we used to do. It has however become much more public. We will hopefully continue to improve.

  • Re:Ok, but... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by mwvdlee ( 775178 ) on Thursday June 13, 2013 @01:19AM (#43992535) Homepage

    It would also have to be able to form new connections and change existing ones, just like real brain cells.

    I wonder to what amount the rest of your body influences the constant changes in a brain.
    Not talking about the obvious stuff like hormones but something more basic; the type of food you eat influences the cell growth in the rest of your body, how does it impact the brain?

  • by TemperedAlchemist ( 2045966 ) on Thursday June 13, 2013 @02:27AM (#43992741)

    In a somewhat inspirational essay This is Water, David Foster Wallace deconstructs this kind of thinking into what it really is: a limited and narrow worldview where only you are the focus and others are "in your way".

    Humorously, xkcd [xkcd.com] points out that everyone else tends to think the exact same thing. That they're the brilliant, smart one and everyone else is a stupid and mindless automaton. It can only stem from a complete lack of empathy. Perhaps that driver who is going ten mph below the speed limit has general anxiety disorder and is only trying to get to work to the best of his ability.

    Everyone else is stupid and you're the brilliant one... Except you're not.

    Sir Ken Robinson [ted.com] lays out a pretty convincing reason why. Or I can simply fall back on an old Einstein quote about judging fish climbing trees.

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