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Bezos Expeditions Recovers Pieces of Apollo 11 Rockets 119

skade88 writes "Jeff Bezos has been spending his time fishing up parts of the Apollo 11 rockets. From his blog 'What an incredible adventure. We are right now onboard the Seabed Worker headed back to Cape Canaveral after finishing three weeks at sea, working almost 3 miles below the surface. We found so much. We've seen an underwater wonderland – an incredible sculpture garden of twisted F-1 engines that tells the story of a fiery and violent end, one that serves testament to the Apollo program. We photographed many beautiful objects in situ and have now recovered many prime pieces. Each piece we bring on deck conjures for me the thousands of engineers who worked together back then to do what for all time had been thought surely impossible.'"
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Bezos Expeditions Recovers Pieces of Apollo 11 Rockets

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  • Dammit, editors! (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 20, 2013 @07:07PM (#43229271)

    Nothing here says there were from Apollo 11! Included in the post is the statement:

    Many of the original serial numbers are missing or partially missing, which is going to make mission identification difficult.

  • Re:Dammit, editors! (Score:4, Informative)

    by voidptr ( 609 ) on Wednesday March 20, 2013 @07:44PM (#43229681) Homepage Journal

    He stated a year ago he was looking specifically for Apollo 11 and started with estimates of where that particular flight profile would have ended up.

    It's possible this stage is from another launch with a similar ground track and they can't confirm it until they find an intact serial number, but it's likely these are Apollo 11.

  • Re:Dammit, editors! (Score:5, Informative)

    by DerekLyons ( 302214 ) <fairwater@gmaLISPil.com minus language> on Wednesday March 20, 2013 @08:33PM (#43230147) Homepage

    I'm not sure how much I buy that... even partial serial numbers should be enough to determine that they pieces are likely to be from mission 'x' and not from mission 'y'. Enough partials and the level of confidence as to which mission they came from can get pretty high.

    You can also compare the recovery location to the impact point for each mission - Apollo By The Numbers [nasa.gov] has a table giving the impact locations [nasa.gov] for the S-IC and S-II stages. I'd have to plot it out to see how far apart they are, but at first glance they're modestly well scattered. (Anyone know how to convert those lat/long coordinates into WGS-84 or Google Earth coordinates?) Again, not a smoking gun but definitely a way to increase the confidence level.

  • Re:Dammit, editors! (Score:5, Informative)

    by sahonen ( 680948 ) on Thursday March 21, 2013 @02:45AM (#43231873) Homepage Journal
    The F1 engine only ever flew aboard the Saturn V, and only 13 of those were ever launched. Still not the greatest odds, but much better than 1/33.
  • Re:Dammit, editors! (Score:2, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 21, 2013 @07:09AM (#43232775)

    > (Anyone know how to convert those lat/long coordinates
    > into WGS-84 or Google Earth coordinates?)

    don't worry about it, just treat them as WGS84. The datum conversion differences (at most a couple hundred meters) is generally less than the loran-c or earlier positioning tech accuracy.

    wolfram alpha does the great circle distance calculations for you, our download PROJ.4 and use the geod program to do them yourself.

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