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CERN's LHC Powers Down For Two Years 71

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from the rotate-the-tires dept.
An anonymous reader writes "Excitement and the media surrounded the Higgs boson particle for weeks when it was discovered in part by the Large Hadron Collider (LHC). But now, the collider that makes its home with CERN, the famed international organizational that operates the world's largest particle physics laboratory, is powering down. The Higgs boson particle was first discovered by the LHC in 2012. The particle, essentially, interacts with everything that has mass as the objects interact with the all-powerful Higgs field, a concept which, in theory, occupies the entire universe." We covered the repair announcement last month.
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CERN's LHC Powers Down For Two Years

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  • TWO years?? (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 14, 2013 @08:47PM (#42904319)
    Don't these people realize we're in the 3D printing epoch now? Can they just print out a new LHC in less than two years?
    • by Guppy06 (410832) on Thursday February 14, 2013 @09:47PM (#42904879)

      Why print out the collider when you can print out the hadrons themselves?

    • by erice (13380) on Thursday February 14, 2013 @10:04PM (#42905031) Homepage

      Don't these people realize we're in the 3D printing epoch now? Can they just print out a new LHC in less than two years?

      Well, yes but from whose point of view? Remember all those black holes that that LHC was supposed to create? Everyone was afraid they were going to destroy the world. That didn't happen but they did create a bit of a time dilation issue. For the gang working at the collider, they're just shutting down for a couple of weekends to do a little sweeping up. But for the rest of us on the outside, it's two years.

    • by Sulphur (1548251)

      Don't these people realize we're in the 3D printing epoch now? Can they just print out a new LHC in less than two years?

      And a small black hole is the best cutting tool in the universe.

    • Try 3D printing that:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1L2xODZSI4 [youtube.com]

  • by GodfatherofSoul (174979) on Thursday February 14, 2013 @08:53PM (#42904401)

    More like the UN got a death threat from the intergalactic Splugorthian empire to cease with our efforts to open an unregulated worm hole. It was ALIENS I tell you!

  • by Anonymous Coward
    And they wonder why there is a kerfluffle about what people call the "God particle?" Seriously, this hyperbole really has to be toned down.
  • or that's what the LHC *wants* CERN to believe.
  • For what it's worth (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Schmorgluck (1293264) on Thursday February 14, 2013 @09:08PM (#42904555)
    This downtime means that some parts that aren't open to visits during operations, will be for quite a while. Science tourism rocks!
  • TWO YEARS?! (Score:3, Funny)

    by yerktoader (413167) on Thursday February 14, 2013 @09:11PM (#42904575) Homepage
    HOW WILL SCIENCING GET DONE!?
  • So without the LHC the universe is in danger of imploding now? Or exploding? Run this singularity business by me one more time here.

  • by Snotnose (212196) on Thursday February 14, 2013 @09:23PM (#42904677)

    I've been involved in enough large scale projects to know why you bring up parts, or underpower the system, and run them to see what breaks. And stuff does break, it's the name of the game.

    Still, it's pretty frustrating to watch this shut down for 2 years. We'll be getting results from the Pluto probe about the time this thing comes back up.

    • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 14, 2013 @09:29PM (#42904733)

      Some parts for LHC were getting designed in the 1970s. 2-years is *nothing*.

      Comments here are like if nothing can be done. You know, real science is actually understanding the petabytes of data already measured and stored. Hey, they even have to figure out that Higg's boson look-like thingy that they did measure but still not sure what it is 100%.

      As I said, 2 years, it is nothing. Lots of data to go over. Trust me, no one will be idle.

    • As I understand it, and nothing I've read makes this perfectly clear, this shutdown is part of gearing up to move from shooting protons around to shooting much heavier shit around, lead nuclei. The bangs when they hit get much bigger. Bigger bangs have to be better, so this is a good thing.
      • by Pro-feet (2668975)
        This is wrong. They were shooting lead nuclei around in the past month even, and have done before.
        When the LHC will come back, it will run protons again, and again lead nuclie at some more future point.
        Heavy-ion collisions is something the machine was designed for.
        It's the higher energy that requires the extensive repairs and upgrades, and the downtime.
    • We'll be getting results from the Pluto probe about the time this thing comes back up.

      Cool. We'll need the LHC to analyze the mass relay under Charon's ice...

  • July 2012

    The ATLAS and CMS experiments at CERN have just announced the discovery of a new particle which is consistent with a Standard Model Higgs boson. There is still a lot of work to do to confirm whether this really is the Higgs, and if so whether it is a Standard Model Higgs, but this is a major result

    February 2013

    The Higgs boson particle was first discovered by the LHC in 2012

    Did I miss the "lot of work" between July 2012 and December 2012 that confirmed that the particle "is the Higgs, and if so whether it is a Standard Model Higgs".? Wow, I must have been asleep. According to this [wikipedia.org] maybe not.

    However some kinds of extensions to the Standard Model would also show very similar results based on other particles that are still being understood long after their discovery, it may take years to be sure, and decades to fully understand the particle that has been found.

  • "A concept which, in theory, occupies the entire universe" - an excellent example of mistaking the map for the territory.
  • the great and powerful! If you want to see the boson you must bring me an 11th dimensional super string. That shouldn't take you more than 2 years.

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