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Earth Supercomputing Science

More Hot Weather For Southern California, Says UCLA Study 218

The L.A. Times reports on a study by UCLA climate researchers who conclude, based on supercomputer analysis of a model "2,500 times more precise than previous climate models for the region" that the area around L.A. will experience more (and more extreme) hot spells in decades to come. From the article: "The study, released Thursday, is the first to model the Southland's complex geography of meandering coastlines, mountain ranges and dense urban centers in high enough resolution to predict temperatures down to the level of micro climate zones, each measuring 2 1/4 square miles. The projections are for 2041 to 2060. Not only will the number of hot days increase, but the study found that the hottest of those days will break records, said Alex Hall, lead researcher on the study by UCLA's Institute of the Environment and Sustainability."
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More Hot Weather For Southern California, Says UCLA Study

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  • Re:Enough! (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 24, 2012 @12:30PM (#40430005)
    The biggest problem is overpopulation, all else flows from that. I expect you will do what's right.
  • Re:2041-2060 (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Coolhand2120 ( 1001761 ) on Sunday June 24, 2012 @01:10PM (#40430341)
    Here's a prediction of human reactions to Lovelock’s interview [torontosun.com]:
    1) Attack his age. "Oh, he's an old doddering fool! He's lost his mind!"
    2) Call him irrelevant because he's not publishing. "How can he know anything about climate science? He hasn't published a paper for so long!"
    3) Attack the media source. "This paper is in the pocket of big oil!"
    4) Attack using a straw man. "Oh, but the ice is thinning in Greenland! This proves everything I say and proves you wrong!"

    What you won't hear, and what makes this more religion than science as Lovelock says, is an argument against Lovelock's actual critiques of the state of climate science. It's because his points are too logical and irrefutable, so rather than try and engage in that uphill battle they will change the question posed and make up their own questions to answer. Its something along the lines of cognitive dissonance [wikipedia.org] but worse.
  • Re:LOLs (Score:4, Insightful)

    by MobileTatsu-NJG ( 946591 ) on Sunday June 24, 2012 @01:51PM (#40430603)

    Which is easier to predict: Tomorrow's exact temperature or generally how warm the weather will be in August?

  • Re:2041-2060 (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Coolhand2120 ( 1001761 ) on Sunday June 24, 2012 @01:52PM (#40430611)
    You know, you're proving my point. I don't believe the question was "Is Lovelock an extremist, and/or does he agree with other climate scientists?" I only wish I could go back and add #5 to my list. "attack him for not agreeing with other scientists and call him extreme". It would be really cool if you actually addressed his valid critiques instead of "making up your own questions".

    Here's an easy one, and try to answer this question without making up a new question in its place: If we can't predict past weather with any confidence using our climate models, how can we have any confidence in their predictions of future weather?
  • by Daniel Dvorkin ( 106857 ) on Sunday June 24, 2012 @03:44PM (#40431349) Homepage Journal

    If the weather cannot be accurately predicted 100% of the time for three days in advance, why would anyone believe they can predict it based on some trending for the next 50 years?

    Because they understand how science works.

  • by rrohbeck ( 944847 ) on Sunday June 24, 2012 @04:41PM (#40431703)

    Ah, the old denier tactic of mixing up serious science with bogus science reporting in the mass media.
    There is a reason why there is a "mainstream" in science. It's fact based, it's boring, and it's usually correct.

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