Why Groundwater Use May Not Explain Half of Sea-Level Rise 244
New submitter Sir Realist writes "A recent Slashdot scoop pointed us at a scientific study that claimed 42% of global sea-level rises could be due to groundwater use. It was a good story. But as is often the way with science, there are folks who interpret the data differently. Scott Johnson at Ars Technica has a good writeup which includes two recent studies that came to remarkably different conclusions from mostly the same data, and an explanation of the assumptions the authors were making that led to those differences. Essentially, there is some reason to think that the groundwater estimates used in the first study were too high. However, that's still under debate, so it's worth reading the whole argument. Scientific review in action!"
Re:Interesting Theory (Score:4, Informative)
The reason that ocean levels might rise from groundwater is that we are bringing it up faster than it can go back down. All that water has to go somewhere.
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Re:Scientific review (Score:3, Informative)
>>>It's a scientific fact that global warming is real. There is no debate, and no controversy
How come it's getting colder over the last decade with record levels of snowfall and cooler-than-normal summers? (I had heard by 2010 we wouldn't even know what snow is in Great Britain.)
They don't. Global temperatures continue to show a rise, despite certain local climate variations.
Re:WE NEED MORE RAINWATER TANKS! (Score:3, Informative)
I know you are joking but cisterns are illegal in many areas.
Here is one of many stories that talk about it.
http://www.hcn.org/issues/40.18/a-good-idea-2013-if-you-can-get-away-with-it [hcn.org]
Re:Scientific review (Score:5, Informative)
So where are the reviews that actually challenge the hypothesis - or is that untouchable?
Reviews don't do that; competing hypotheses do. In the world of science, a competing hypothesis overtakes the consensus if and only if it explains everything the old system could and more that it couldn't. Science demands alternative explanations that solve inconsistencies; finding a problem with the consensus is only the first step, and denialists are stuck there.
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See also: Svante Arrhenius, On the Influence of Carbonic Acid in the Air upon the Temperature of the Ground, Svante Arrhenius, Philosophical Magazine and Journal of Science, Series 5, Volume 41, April 1896, pages 237-276. [globalwarmingart.com]
Now, if you clean up your act and stop simply spouting lies, we might have a discussion.
Re:Scientific review (Score:4, Informative)
How come it's getting colder over the last decade
Whoever told you that was lying to you. They cherry-picked the year 1998 for a two-point comparison because it was anomalously high. If you picked 1997 instead you'd see warming way above predictions. But that would also be a lie. That's why climate scientists don't do that, and instead use rolling averages to find the underlying trends.
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