US Air Force Pays SETI To Check Kepler-22b For Alien Life 301
New submitter iComp writes with this quote from El Reg:
"The Search for Extra Terrestrial Intelligence (SETI) has announced that it is back in business checking out the new [potentially] habitable exoplanets recently discovered by NASA's Kepler space telescope to see if they might be home to alien civilizations. The cash needed to restart SETI's efforts has come in part from the U.S. Air Force Space Command, who are interested in using the organization's detection instruments for 'space situational awareness'."
Re:Military the first one, huh? (Score:5, Insightful)
It's the military having foresight, produence, and due diligence. Their main job is to defend us, and one of the major part of that is accessing new threats wherever they are.
If we were to find life on this planet, would you rather us to in completely blind about them?
Re:Military the first one, huh? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Military the first one, huh? (Score:5, Insightful)
This. Even though I don't want go to war with aliens (and it currently seems illogical to do so) I have no problem with funding dual-purpose research just in case.
Re:Military the first one, huh? (Score:5, Insightful)
The military's job is fighting wars. Securing peace is the people's and governments' job.
And the military is the only who does it's job.
Re:Military the first one, huh? (Score:5, Insightful)
Well as luck would have it monitoring *one* planet is very reasonable and not overly resource intensive.
SETI's problem was always that they tried to monitor a *lot* of planet/star/whateverthefucks
Re:Military the first one, huh? (Score:5, Insightful)
Do you have any idea how far away these "possible threats" actually are?
Really, it's a serious question.
HAnd how will they know that ? (Score:5, Insightful)
Anyway the article make it clear that space command seems to be more interested into mundane stuff.
Re:Explore, conquer, colonize. (Score:5, Insightful)
Now if you're dealing with a psychopath, hungry carnivore, mugger, hostile alien warriors, etc, pacifism will only get you the short end of the stick, often followed by a funeral - if they can find enough of you to bury.
Re:Military the first one, huh? (Score:3, Insightful)
What's more likely is that the Americans will poke at them until they get annoyed, then start a fight. Then we'll have to send British and Swedish forces in to sort out the resulting mess when the Yanks can't handle it.
Re:Military the first one, huh? (Score:5, Insightful)
The possible threat is from mass panic and/or social unrest. Take somebody's whole lifetime of religious belief and pull the carpet out from under it and they'll react irrationally. Do that to the majority of people on the planet and you potentially have big problems.
I mean our fundamentalists already go crazy over basic science like evolution or climate change or conception, just imagine what they'd do if we weren't the Chosen planet, let alone how people in some place like the Middle East would react. You know for a certainty people would at least try to blow up the radio telescopes and cover up the knowledge. What else? Who knows, but the government having some time to plan and prepare before word got out would be valuable preparation.
Re:Explore, conquer, colonize. (Score:5, Insightful)
>Blame natural evolution or god for creating us that way.
Nah. Obviously, any human action depends on god/evolution to allow it, but often "blame" should lie more directly on for example culture/ideas than on the underlying plumbing that facilitates them.
In this case of violent human exploration it is true that genes are probably pretty directly involved as the humans explore in states of fear and greed, but ideas and culture is still a bigger factor, and also the one we can do something about.
While we have the capacity for violence and feelings of fear, anger, revenge and greed, we are also capable to marvel and feel sympathy, to be righteous and to share. The higher plane of ideas and culture is where we can work, building on a foundation of the genetics of a social, loving animal and overcoming the scared greedy brute within.
So, no, don't blame god or evolution, even if they're visibly present in the state of things, because also the malleable ideas and culture of fear, greed and ruthlessness are there, shaping the order of things at least as much. Ideas and culture we can work on more readily.
Don't surrender to what is hardwired. Work around it in the software.
Re:Military the first one, huh? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:HAnd how will they know that ? (Score:4, Insightful)
If they looked our way today, they would have front-row seats to the rise of the Ottoman empire.
Re:Explore, conquer, colonize. (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Military the first one, huh? (Score:2, Insightful)
Damn that's a hilarious post. The British provide the comic relief while the Swedes glumly watch.
Meanwhile, the Americans realize that once again, they've been screwed by the global elite and the useless UN.
Re:Military the first one, huh? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Military the first one, huh? (Score:5, Insightful)
Still a long way to go before we call it even for ending the two world wars.
The US wasn't really responsible for ending WW1 and even if it had been, the resulting "peace" was not something that anyone would be proud of, leading inevitably to WW2 as it did. If I was American, I'd let the UK and France have WW1.
As for WW2, the honours would have to be shared between the USSR and the US.