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EU Scientists Working On Laser To Rip a Hole In Spacetime 575

astroengine writes "Those pesky physicists are at it again; they want to build a laser so powerful that it will literally rip spacetime apart. Why? To prove the existence of virtual particles in the quantum vacuum, potentially unravel extra dimensions and possibly find the root of dark matter. The $1.6 billion Extreme Light Infrastructure Ultra-High Field Facility (known as ELI) will be built somewhere in Europe by the end of the decade and physicists are hoping the ten high-powered lasers — delivering 200 petawatts of power at a target for less than a trillionth of a second — will turn up some surprises about the very fabric of the Universe."
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EU Scientists Working On Laser To Rip a Hole In Spacetime

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 03, 2011 @09:56PM (#37943284)

    In the event of an alien invasion, can we point it upwards?

  • The Death Star (Score:3, Interesting)

    by l0ungeb0y ( 442022 ) on Thursday November 03, 2011 @09:56PM (#37943286) Homepage Journal

    The combined power of 10 separate lasers would be focused down to a very small volume, creating conditions more extreme than in the center of our sun.

    So they'll essentiallly be turning the Earth into the Death Star
    And we feel good about letting Europeans man the switch?
    Will they be wearing dark suits with funky helmets?

  • Re:Results how? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by mrxak ( 727974 ) on Thursday November 03, 2011 @09:56PM (#37943298)

    You raise an interesting point. How exactly do we detect the absence of spacetime? Presumably if it's ripped apart, either there will be gaps, or somehow we'll make more of it.

  • by ColdWetDog ( 752185 ) on Thursday November 03, 2011 @10:01PM (#37943346) Homepage

    I take it that mutant Sea Bass are still OK?

  • by Artifakt ( 700173 ) on Friday November 04, 2011 @12:05AM (#37944132)

    I'm not the original AC, but I'll give you a two part argument for it's being lame.
    1. The energy density for this device, while pretty spectacular, is still way, way below the range where current competing theories predict exotic results. This has been a problem for projected particle accelerator of the future designs as well, since at least before the Superconducting Supercollider design that was to be built in Texas was canceled by the US Congress. One of the reasons we have gone ahead with new accelerators even though we (as a species) are still tremendously short of achieving the energy levels needs for more direct tests is a few 'work arounds' have been theorized. These are phenomena that are in the range the machine at CERN or others can reach, but that theoretically may be indirectly influenced by Super-symmetry or other theories we can't test more directly. Without some relatively indirect test like this, the Uber-laser still won't be nearly powerful enough to accomplish anything. So, either there's some sort of indirect prediction from one of the String theory variants, or Super-symmetry, or some more exotic theory, and that indirect prediction is down in the energy range that this thing achieves, or they are basically just gambling on something completely unexpected showing up. Since the article doesn't really explain what that indirect, inferential prediction might be, It's seems more likely than not there isn't a specific one. (Of course, it's possible the interviewer didn't get everything into the article.).
    2. The article also states that the energy achieved by this device will be equal to a temperature greater than the center of the sun. That sounds impressive, but we've seen some much more energetic events in astrophysics. Lots of Nova/Supernova variants, neutron star related events, and quasars involve energy densities way beyond both the center of our sun and this laser device. We should at least possibly have seen some evidence for the same kind of effects as this widget is supposed to possibly produce by studying existing astronomical events. While that's not absolutely always a good guideline, I know, in the absence of an indirect prediction based on existing theory, I'd be willing to gamble somewhat if the device aimed to mimic the energy densities of some astrophysical event and could point to theories from there as evidence for this 'hole ripping' or 'cosmic hernia' effect. It's not uncommon for sub-atomic physics to take cues from Astrophysics and Cosmology, and vice-versa, but that too doesn't seem to be happening in this case.

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