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NASA Rolls Out Space Exploration Roadmap 128

MarkWhittington writes "NASA and the space agencies of a variety of countries, including members of the European Union, Canada, Japan, Russia, India, the Ukraine, and South Korea, have rolled out the latest version of a space exploration roadmap (PDF). NASA and its partners have created two scenarios, called 'Asteroid Next' and 'Moon Next.' This represents the continuing argument over which destination astronaut explorers should go to first. Should it be an Earth approaching asteroid, as President Obama insists? Or should it be the moon, as many people in Congress, NASA, and NASA's partner agencies suggest? In any event, all roads lead to Mars in the current plan. Both visits to an asteroid and to the moon are considered practice runs for what will be needed to go to Mars."
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NASA Rolls Out Space Exploration Roadmap

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 23, 2011 @03:55PM (#37495624)

    NASA needs guaranteed funding and a minimum of Congressional oversight.

  • by Skarecrow77 ( 1714214 ) on Friday September 23, 2011 @04:00PM (#37495674)

    Sadly AC has the truth of it. This plan should be labled "Current roadmap for the next 20-30 years... unless whoever is elected to congress and the presidency in the next couple of years change their mind. again."

  • by sgt scrub ( 869860 ) <saintium@NOSpAM.yahoo.com> on Friday September 23, 2011 @04:06PM (#37495754)

    The rovers were a success. Now it is time to test our ability to create a long term orbital platform. I'm for the asteroid. China has shown an interest in going to the moon. Let them perform those experiments.

  • The REAL Roadmap (Score:5, Insightful)

    by sycodon ( 149926 ) on Friday September 23, 2011 @04:32PM (#37495956)

    1. Adopt a plan
    2. Spend a ton of money
    3. Abandon achievements and the plan.
    4. Repeat.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 23, 2011 @04:38PM (#37496008)

    Somehow the idea of international cooperation seems to make sense in the modern era. Although we Americans rightly take pride in the Apollo program, the space race was really a product of the Cold War. It ruled out multilateral efforts because the whole point was a race to beat the Russians. That doesn't make sense today; nation-states don't have the same kind of rivalries. The spirit of "advancement of human civilization" I associate with space exploration does seem more fitting as an international enterprise. It gives me a warm fuzzy.

    That said, the reality of international undertakings tends to fall short of what I consider ideal.

    International cooperation, as in the International Space Station aka cluster fuck #1 ?
    No, if the US wants to go back in space it has all the means at its disposal. You just need a coherent political vision that doesn't change every day. Stop spending trillions of dollars in meaningless wars, in meaningless security state programs etc... Raise taxes, make americans feel proud of their country again and set your eyes on the moon and mars. One generation ought to be enough to send astronauts to mars, keep a fully inhabited moon base etc... And for god's sake, once you're there stay there. Don't dismantle yet again the space program once you achieve the goal. Its stupid that of all the apollo missions, only 3 were really scientific and only one carried a real scientist. Less pilots, more scientists in space.

  • by Biff Stu ( 654099 ) on Friday September 23, 2011 @04:56PM (#37496198)

    That's the roadmap summary. Here's the detailed roadmap:

    1. Adopt a plan.
    2. Make the plan more ambitious at the insistence of the President and Congress.
    3. Receive 30% of the required funding from congress, 25% of which is non mission-critical pork.
    4. Overrun lowball funding by a factor of 3.
    5. Congress cuts off funding before real accomplishments can be met.
    6. Repeat

  • by Rogerborg ( 306625 ) on Friday September 23, 2011 @05:06PM (#37496286) Homepage

    The Russians are the best at heavy lift, the Canadians are the best at robotics. There is no point in the US trying to reinvent the wheel. Leave those technologies to them and focus NASA funding elsewhere.

    The catering?

  • Re:I really (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Rogerborg ( 306625 ) on Friday September 23, 2011 @05:10PM (#37496318) Homepage

    manned space exploration [...] is a worthless, purposeless enterprise

    We choose to go to the moon in this decade, and to do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard.

    I truly pity you, sir. I'll get my grandchildren to send you a nice postcard from Alpha Centauri.

  • Re:I really (Score:5, Insightful)

    by ColdWetDog ( 752185 ) on Friday September 23, 2011 @05:24PM (#37496464) Homepage

    Only true-believing sci fi space adventure magical religious cultists are gullible enough to swallow the "space exploration" excuse.

    Boy, you are brave. Dissing 98% of the Slashdot demographic.

    And while you're correct on purely rational grounds, humans aren't purely rational and canning manned flight for just robotics leaves a lot of emotion on the ground. Given that space exploration really comprises a trivial amount of human and financial capital, all things considered, the added emotional involvement of human spaceflight is more than justified.

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