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FBI Releases Document Confirming Roswell UFO 481

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schwit1 writes "An investigator for the Air Force stated that three so-called flying saucers had been recovered in New Mexico. They were described as circular in shape with raised centers approximately 50 feet in diameter. Each one was occupied by three bodies of human shape, but only 3 feet tall dressed in metallic clothing of very fine texture."

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FBI Releases Document Confirming Roswell UFO

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  • Questions. (Score:5, Interesting)

    by webmistressrachel (903577) on Sunday April 10, 2011 @12:40PM (#35774470) Journal

    This raises more questions than answers. For a start, this really is on vault.fbi.gov servers, so either it's real or a VERY risky hoax.

    However, assuming it's real for now, WHY HAS THIS NOT LEAD TO A FLURRY OF OTHER EVIDENCE FROM ELSEWHERE?

    Clearly the mask is off now? The government know about saucers, otherwise there wouldn't be such a casual write-off at the end of the doc.

    So were they short Russians? Germans who found it in a barn after WWII and got it working? COME ON FBI, do your jobs and give us a proper INVESTIGATION!

  • Re:Great news! (Score:5, Interesting)

    by zill (1690130) on Sunday April 10, 2011 @12:48PM (#35774534)

    According to Mr. _______ informant

    They debriefed their informant and recorded down what he said. It doesn't necessarily mean FBI actually believe the information provided. Under the FOIA you can't just destroy the document because the source wore a tin-foil hat.

  • Re:Riiiiiight (Score:5, Interesting)

    by ThunderBird89 (1293256) <zalanmeggyesi@ya ... m minus math_god> on Sunday April 10, 2011 @12:53PM (#35774568)

    Agreed, this is only a filing of the report, no follow-up. It's customary in every law enforcement organisation to file every report, no matter how stupid. Hell, I've heard about the police filing a report by a guy claiming every evening, after the news ran, the newscasters came out of his TV set, and beat him. No investigation was done, naturally, but the report had to be filed, as the SOP went.

    Just another sensationalist samzenpus headline, it would seem...

  • Suspicious timing (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Livius (318358) on Sunday April 10, 2011 @01:02PM (#35774630)

    The problem with the Roswell folklore has always been that the story completely went away until the point in time when, coincidentally, the actual witnesses had died of old age.

  • Re:Last words... (Score:4, Interesting)

    by LifesABeach (234436) on Sunday April 10, 2011 @01:32PM (#35774786)
    Past primitive human culture's ability to survive, after meeting in some way, an advanced culture when it takes its first crap, is pretty dismal. I can not help but think what it would be like for Leif Erikson [wikipedia.org] vs. Princess Cruise Lines [princess.com] at the port of Port of Akureyri, Iceland, [www.port.is] what the outcome would be.

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  • Re:Dwarf test pilots (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Peet42 (904274) <Peet42@Netscape.BOYSENnet minus berry> on Sunday April 10, 2011 @02:11PM (#35774998)
    Actually, you're not so far off one of the more interesting "oddball" theories.

    Lets assume that something happened. There was a communication blackout, the local undertaker was asked to provide three child-sized coffins and thereafter the Army Air Force claim that nothing happened.

    The "oddball" theory is that a scaled-down test plane, manned by children crashed in the desert. Can you imagine the US Government ever admitting to that?
  • by Ungrounded Lightning (62228) on Sunday April 10, 2011 @02:29PM (#35775128) Journal

    I thought this was a reference to early sightings of over the horizon nuclear tests that needed to be suppressed, during the time of Oppenheimer.

    I had been assuming the stories were a "second cover".

    This is a psychological ploy allegedly used by security agencies to hide things that are really important and worth the effort. They set up two cover stories: The first cover story is public and something plausible. The second cover story is nutty and withheld, but evidence for it is planted. When somebody realizes that the first cover is a lie and digs deeper they encounter the planted evidence for the mind-numbingly wild second cover. Then they are placed in the position of either looking like a fruitcake or giving up. (After all, anything they dig up on the REAL story could also be another lie.)

    If it is a second cover, the existence of such a memo in the archives could just be a leftover piece of the planted evidence.

    As for what's behind the hypothetical second cover, an explanation released a few years back seems plausible: Balloon-lofted high-altitude drop tests of a predecessor to the mercury capsule reentry heat shield - which looked a lot like the contemporary depictions of flying saucers.

    The Cold War was raging at the time and the early space program was military and extremely secret. So tests on the first cut at retrieving people and devices from orbit would logically be performed at a remote, highly-classified, military aircraft test site, with the agencies going to extreme lengths to cover the work from spies, just as they did with the Manhattan Project.

  • "The War Of The Worlds", simple as that. My grandfather brought me one of his flight books to show "military logic" and it said "THERE ARE NO UFOS...but if you see one don't fire unless fired upon". Him and his buddies used to LMAO about that one. How do you "not fire unless fired upon" something that doesn't exist?

    Sadly MiB summed up the military view of the population perfectly "A Person is smart, people are dumb dangerous panicky animals and you KNOW it". Frankly if a saucer landed on the White House lawn to do repairs the MSM would be handed a bulletin telling them to talk about "the new alien movie being filmed today in Washington" and that would be it.

    Do they have alien tech? Don't know, but it wouldn't surprise me. The US military has been to just about every single place on the planet, if anything crashes I have no doubt they would snatch it. will they EVER tell the American people? NOT A CHANCE IN HELL.

  • Uhhh...did you miss the "for repairs" part friend? Please feel free to insert NYC, Paris, anyplace where there is a shitload of cameras. I simply used DC as it is a place where there are a ton of tourists with cameras, see the getting your pic made with a cutout of the president for an example.

    I think the "grain of sand part" you focused on misses the bigger question , which would be "How many of those have FTL capability?" which Sagan pointed out in several of his works that even if you had a billion stars with inhabited planets the odds that even one of those has BOTH FTL drives AND would come to what is arguably the "ass end of the galaxy" just to fuck with the hairless monkeys? Pretty damned small. Hell if any of them DID come it would be a "gorillas in the mist" kinda thing where they would take pics of the primitives. it isn't like they would look upon man as any more special than fungus.

    As for your "see above" with UFO hunters and the like? Frankly it doesn't make a damned difference WHAT they see or get it is what the MSM says that is important. See how more than 40% at last count of the American people thought we went into Iraq over 9/11! The population by and large ONLY believes what the TV tells them to, and if the TV says all those films are bullshit and the witnesses crackpots? Well then THAT is what they'll believe! Hell our government has propaganda and misinformation down so pat I'm waiting for a news report to say "Four alarm fire makes way for GLORIOUS new tractor factory!" like they had on Airplane II.

    Again are there aliens out there? I honestly don't know, but as a scientific agnostic I want more than some shaky handycam footage before I believe shit. Would the government be honest to the people if they knew? NOT A CHANCE IN HELL. Hell we refuse to acknowledge Aurora or the stealth blimp or the pulse drive or any of the other new toys we are blowing ass loads of $$$ on, even though the desert rats can tell you when they take off and land! Bullshit and lies are SOP of the government, they sure ain't gonna change that for something as world changing as proof of extraterrestrial life.

  • Re:Dwarf test pilots (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 10, 2011 @07:08PM (#35776610)

    The "oddball" theory is that a scaled-down test plane, manned by children crashed in the desert. Can you imagine the US Government ever admitting to that?

    Why not?

    The US government will admit to killing hundreds [wikipedia.org] of unarmed civilians (children included) as well as quite a few other undesirable things. [wikipedia.org]
    It just takes time for the full story to come out.
    1947 should be "old enough" for that type of info, especially considering the amount of people that would have had to have been involved with the alleged program and "coverup".

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