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Self-Control In Kids Predicts Future Success 245

SpuriousLogic writes "A new study suggests that a child's future success depends on the amount of self-control they exhibit. From the article: 'The international team of researchers looked at 1,037 children in New Zealand born in the early 1970s, observing their levels of self-control at ages 3 and 5. At ages 5, 7, 9 and 11, the team used parent, teacher and the children's own feedback to measure such factors as impulsive aggression, hyperactivity, lack of persistence and inattention. At age 32, they used physical exams, blood tests, records searches and personal interviews of 96% of the original participants to determine how healthy, wealthy and law-abiding the subjects had turned out to be. The results were startling. In the fifth of children with the least self-control, 27% had multiple health problems. Compare that with the fifth of kids with the most self-control — at just 11%. Among the bottom fifth, 32% had an annual income below approximately $15,000, while only 10% of the top fifth fell into that low-income bracket. Just 26% of the top-fifth's offspring were raised in single-parent homes, compared with 58% of those in the bottom fifth. And 43% of the bottom fifth had been convicted of a crime, far outstripping the top fifth's 13% rate.'"
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Self-Control In Kids Predicts Future Success

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  • Shocking (Score:2, Insightful)

    by 2.7182 ( 819680 ) on Wednesday January 26, 2011 @08:12PM (#35015188)
    And you know what? That kid in elementary school that was the first to try smoking? He works in a Walmart now.
  • Character (Score:4, Insightful)

    by fwarren ( 579763 ) on Wednesday January 26, 2011 @08:25PM (#35015310) Homepage

    Or maybe character matters?

  • by h00manist ( 800926 ) on Wednesday January 26, 2011 @08:29PM (#35015338) Journal
    The same is true for adults, or, if you may, human beings. Big surprise, I don't know why people insist on treating children as retards or something.
  • by agm ( 467017 ) on Wednesday January 26, 2011 @08:35PM (#35015374)

    "Among the bottom fifth, 32% had an annual income below approximately $15,000, while only 10% of the top fifth fell into that low-income bracket. Just 26% of the top-fifth's offspring were raised in single-parent homes, compared with 58% of those in the bottom fifth."

    Well, that may very well be the problem right there.

    It says the study subjects offspring were raised in single parent homes, not that the study subjects themselves were raised in a single parent home.

    It also says an annual income of below $15000. Given this was in New Zealand, I doubt very much this is true. $15,000 NZD is not much at all. Perhaps they converted it to some other currency?

  • by artor3 ( 1344997 ) on Wednesday January 26, 2011 @08:59PM (#35015540)

    The "causation is not correlation" refrain doesn't really apply here. The article claims that self-control predicts success, not that it causes it. The study seems pretty solid, and it's conclusion is believable. Unfortunately, it would be very difficult to determine whether self-control leads to success versus "unknown factor X" leading to both self-control and success. To do that would require you to take a large sample of children, and teach self-control to some who don't have it, while also breaking the self-control of some of those who do. Not the sort of study a parent will sign their kid up for.

    The point is that self-control is good, and trying to instill it in a child is likely (but not guaranteed) to help them in life.

    Also, I think you're misunderstanding the summary. It's not saying that the kids with poor self-control had low income or single-parent homes growing up, it's saying that kids with poor self-control are likely to grow into adults with low income and broken homes. The fact that lack of self-control can lead to divorce should surprise no one.

  • Parents! (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 26, 2011 @09:03PM (#35015572)

    Please beat your children.

  • by orphiuchus ( 1146483 ) on Wednesday January 26, 2011 @09:04PM (#35015584)

    Self control is only part of intelligence if you expand the definition to include it. In my opinion we use the word "intelligence" as too much of a blanket term encompassing all the elements of success.

    The truth of the matter is that someone who processes and retains information with the bottom 20% of the population but has the self control to do the extra work required for them to get the grades and/or do good work at, whatever their profession is, is very likely to be more successful than their peers.

    Most of the 4.0 students(with engineering or noble science majors) I knew in college never left their rooms on weeknights. I realized a few years ago that they weren't necessarily smarter, some of them quite frankly seemed kind of dim, what they had was work ethic and a realistic assessment of how much time they had to put in to make the grades. And that is far more important than an IQ test.

  • by artor3 ( 1344997 ) on Wednesday January 26, 2011 @09:04PM (#35015586)

    I don't get why so many people on Slashdot like to harp on this. How exactly do you expect them to prove causation in a sociological study? Correlation is all they can show, and correlation can be interesting. And since they used the word "predicts" instead of "leads to", they can't even be accused of conflating the two.

  • by gstrickler ( 920733 ) on Wednesday January 26, 2011 @10:02PM (#35016028)

    Lack of self control certainly does not prevent success:

    • Bill Clinton
    • Richard Nixon
    • John F Kennedy
    • Robert Downey Jr
    • Charlie Sheen

    List could continue for a very long time.

  • by orphiuchus ( 1146483 ) on Wednesday January 26, 2011 @10:06PM (#35016056)

    I call bullshit. Someone with a fast metabolism is going to have a lot easier time chasing down prey (and running from predators) than someone who takes two days to digest a single Twinkie.

    Then why are there so many of us with famine-ready metabolisms walking around?

    By the way, I just love eating 1700 calories a day and doing an hour of p90x just to keep from gaining 5 pounds a week. Thanks famine-survival-specialist ancestors!

  • by Zalbik ( 308903 ) on Wednesday January 26, 2011 @11:42PM (#35016506)

    The article claims that self-control predicts success, not that it causes it.

    The point is that self-control is good, and trying to instill it in a child is likely (though not guaranteed) to help them in life.

    I think your second paragraph needs to have a little discussion with your first paragraph...

  • by arivanov ( 12034 ) on Thursday January 27, 2011 @03:33AM (#35017368) Homepage

    The data is right, the conclusion is wrong.

    The data clearly shows that US and UK schools fail miserably in educating the potential top 5% percentile of students (ditto for bottom 5%). The best students (especially male ones) are guaranteed to be in that "lack of self control" bucket. They are bored. Anyone who had a smart boy will tell you that based on experience (girls are slightly better at faking interest).

    I have seen it first hand with my 8 year old. He was assigned exactly in that bucket and had an "impossible to educate, needs psychiatric assessment" label in 2 schools. The lot - refuse to sit, lashing out, etc. Guess what, his granny taught him to read in another language with a different alphabet in 3 weeks at the age of 6. He has now managed to compensate for the 2 years when the teachers had him labelled as "impossible" and get back to his class level in English (4 years in 2) and to a level which is at least a year ahead of where he should be in math.

    I really hate to think where he could have been if his teachers did not assign him to the "non-compliant, belongs to the never succeed bucket" in his last year at the nursery.

  • by Kashgarinn ( 1036758 ) on Thursday January 27, 2011 @09:30AM (#35018960)

    You're reading too much into this from your own perspective.

    Your perspective is that you have an intelligent, but out of control individual, you're assuming all individuals who lack self-control are the same as the individual you know, and that if only the needs of these individuals are met, everyone would be better.

    The thing is.. and this is the big thing.. individuals who are just as intelligent, but do not lack self-control have more control over their lives in the future.

    It's the difference between being intelligent, finding school boring and lashing out at the environment because you're bored, or being intelligent, finding school boring, but enduring that anyway and taking what you can from it.

    In your case, I'd try and develop the kids self-control. Intelligence is a fine tool to cut through obstacles, but self-control is the tool to cleave mountains.

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