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The Moon Has a Fluid Outer Core 127

mapkinase writes with this excerpt from Discovery News: "The Apollo Passive Seismic Experiment recorded motions of the ground from moonquakes and other activities generating sound waves until late 1977. The network was too limited to directly monitor waves bouncing off or scattered by the moon's core, leaving scientists dependent on more indirect techniques, such as measuring minute gravitational changes, to craft a picture of the moon's interior. Those models turned out to be pretty accurate, says lead scientist Renee Weber, with NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Ala. The new research confirms the existence of a solid inner core and liquid outer layer, similar to Earth's. Unlike Earth, the moon also has a partly melted, mushy layer over that."
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The Moon Has a Fluid Outer Core

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  • Re:Heat energy. (Score:5, Informative)

    by MichaelSmith ( 789609 ) on Saturday January 08, 2011 @07:02PM (#34808722) Homepage Journal

    I suppose its part of the picture. I read somewhere that the core is offset towards the Earth by about 1 km. The moon does wobble slightly. Telescopes on Earth can see about 60% of the lunar surface by observing at the right times. The sun will be continually pulling at the moon to point towards it.

  • by AfroTrance ( 984230 ) on Saturday January 08, 2011 @08:50PM (#34809868)

    Incorrect. Elements segregate in the Earth (and Moon) based on chemical affinities [wikipedia.org], not on weight. And this is just relative abundance (relative to composition of the solar system). You get all elements in all parts of the Earth, but there is relatively more lithophile elements in the crust, and relatively more siderophile elements in the core.

    And uranium is a lithophile, so it is more concentrated in the crust. It still keeps the core warm though. The crust is like an electric blanket, it insulates and provides heat (through radioactivity) to the core (and mantle).

  • Re:And yet, (Score:5, Informative)

    by BradleyUffner ( 103496 ) on Saturday January 08, 2011 @09:14PM (#34810068) Homepage

    incorrect. mercury and mars, have varying atmospheric or environmental conditions shaping them. there is a reason why they are that flat, and uniform.

    Mars is flat?? I don't know where you get that idea from. Mars has mountains and valleys that dwarf anything we have on earth. Olympus Mons is over 21km tall, almost 3 times the height of anything on earth.

  • Re:Amazing stuff (Score:5, Informative)

    by Artifakt ( 700173 ) on Saturday January 08, 2011 @09:39PM (#34810264)

    Forgiven.
    1. Some theories said the moon had to be solid. It's smaller than Earth so it ought to have cooled faster. It has a lower average density than Earth so it shouldn't have lots of radioactive elements in its core, adding heat as they decay (Since all the long lasting radioactive isotopes are dense metals).
    2. You were probably informed that its calculated density showed the Moon couldn't have enough pressure near its center for an inner core to be crystaline iron, with an outer core of molten iron. That's what we think Earth is like. It explains our strong magnetic field, and its lack would explain why the Moon (and Mars, Mercury and Venus, also all somewhat smaller than Earth) doesn't (don't) have a similar magnetic field (s). That's only partly changed. This evidence suggests the moon has an inner core and outer core that are respectively solid and liquid (like Earth). It has a boundary layer above the outer core that goes gradually from liquid to slushy to sort of solid (unlike Earth, where the next boundary is pretty sharply defined). It has a solid crust (like Earth). So what's different besides that interesting slushyness? Iron. Earth's core is probably nearly all Iron, packed into a very regular crystal. Huge chunks of core have been pressurised enough to erase the irregularities between smaller crystals and merge them into one crystal structure wherever possible until you get to the top bit where it becomes more a bunch of discreet crystals and then molten Iron in the outer core. The Moon's core appears to be solid surrounded by liquid, but it doesn't appear to be almost all Iron - it still has much lighter material mixed in compared to Earth's core. So, if your high school geology teacher said the Moon couldn't have a solid Iron inner core with the vastest part of it in a regular crystal state, and a molten outer core, they may still have gotten it right, but if they went farther and said it couldn't be solid surrounded by liquid or couldn't be liquid at all, they definitely went too far in explaining the limited observations of the time.
    3. Some of the Selenologic data comes from Apollo. Some comes from more recent efforts like the south polar impactor mission. Not all that data matches, so it's probable this all needs more work and new instrumentation to be more confident we eventually get the whole model right. What's happened here is we have gotten closer to making the kind and quality of observations we have made to Earth itself during many earthquakes and other events, but arguably we are still not 100% caught up.

  • Re:Heat energy. (Score:4, Informative)

    by John Hasler ( 414242 ) on Saturday January 08, 2011 @11:35PM (#34811136) Homepage

    > the degree of molten-ness depends mostly on composition, not square-cubiness.

    The rate of heat production is proportional to volume while the rate of heat loss is proportional to surface area so equilibrium temperature is proportional to the 3/2 power of diameter.

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