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Quark-Gluon Plasma Observed At LHC 155
Canadian_Daemon writes "A phase of matter created moments after the Big Bang is thought to have been detected at the Large Hadron Collider in Switzerland. 'Striking' evidence of a quark-gluon plasma has been observed by a team of researchers, including Canadians, at the facility near Geneva, the European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN) announced Friday."
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Go Canada!
Thanks (Score:5, Informative)
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Everybody else WISHES! We were in charge! And we did all the critical thinking!
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Yawn.. and I say thanks as an American taxpayer that RHIC was first
It's true that RHIC came before the LHC but the SPS and ISR came well before RHIC and none of these have really produced compelling evidence of a QGP. However don't worry - as an American taxpayer you also helped pay for the LHC, so thanks!
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Now if they would issue 64-bit jobs for Linux hosts on LHC@Home, I would totally help!
-l /Still registered, haven't seen a work unit in YEARS
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Wikipedia says:
That might explain it.
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Not exactly, I get (however small) new work units semi-regularly. Possibly in every month of this year there was something.
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Seti@home is also off for quite some time...
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Now if they would issue 64-bit jobs for Linux hosts on LHC@Home, I would totally help!
Actually you would probably not want to help for long! Analyzing data from an experiment is I/O intensive as well as CPU intensive plus the executables are very large and require ~2GB/core to run so they are not really a suitable scale for an @home project unfortunately.
List of authors (Score:2, Funny)
The list of authors is longer than the paper itself. And it's in alphabetical order. At least, there surely is no fight as to know who will be first author. ^^
Re:Thanks (Score:4, Informative)
I was wondering why the submitter included the part "including Canadians". What was that supposed to mean? Why was it there? Like, it's in Europe but someone from America was there too! Moronic submitter.
Actually, its from the article source which is the CBC -- Canadian Broadcasting Corporation. It's just the local news agency pointing out that locals were involved in the experiment.
As a Canadian, I like to watch... (Score:4, Insightful)
What a strange thing to say: "observed by a team of researchers, including Canadians"
Does this mean the Canadians aren't team players or they weren't researchers (were they just tourists?)
This Canadian wants to know!
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I think it has something to do with the initial line which says "Canadian_Daemon writes " :-)
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canadian boredcorping casteration
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Large Hardon Collider
51st staters have always had an identy crisis. (Score:2)
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Canadians tend to be skeptics.
They are always the first to wait up so they can catch santa claus coming down the chimney.
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Of course we're skeptics! Every year we hear about this crazy bastard flying around in a sleigh all night. Any sane Canuck knows that, during winter, you get your shit done during the two and a half hours of daylight in the afternoon. After that you stay the hell inside because its fucking cold! We just wanna meet the guy so we can tell him he's got everything ass backwards. He must be an American. ;)
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As long as it's not windy, I don't care. That's what boots, coats, hats, sweaters, gloves, etc., are made for.
Not warm enough? Put on another layer and MOVE AROUND! You'll warm up to it.
Winter's not going to go away for a few months, so might as well enjoy it.
-- Barbie
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I hope I'm going to be around for more than a few months.
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Re:As a Canadian, I like to watch... (Score:5, Funny)
Canadians tend to be skeptics.
Oh, I don't know about that.
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Having a Canadian on the team embraces a certain regional pride to calm insecurities of those Yanks.
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Because researchers from TRIUMF (Canada's National Laboratory for Particle and Nuclear Physics) were involved... of course... so were researchers from Fermilab, and other institutions... but the article was submitted by a Canadian.
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Tri-University Meson Facility.
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TRIUMF is the name of the facility; however, I did not fail to spell anything wrong and TRIUMF is not an acronym for anything (anymore).
One of the letters graduated?
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CNLPNP? Don't you mean CL4PTRP?
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You caught that but missed "European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN)"?
Wow.
Obviously something else is going on here. Duh.
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I'm thinking that except if they actually injected Canadians into the LHC pipes and then collided them at high speed, this whole Canadian bias of the news is unjustified.
IT'S A CANADIAN CONSPIRACY
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So it's like hockey?
Only slower.
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Nah, it's like Canada has been America's hat for so long, they don't really get the recognition they deserve. This tribit was just trying to correct that a little.
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The Canadians supplied the bacon.
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Most likely is that the Canadian scientists involved are not allowed to talk about anything they are doing, ( gag order [nature.com]), especially this new stuff. But if one can get the information from other sources, the CBC can let the Canadians know that Canadians are involved in science still, although we're not allowed to talk about that either.
Re:As a Canadian, I like to watch... (Score:5, Informative)
I think the comment was simply to emphasize the canadian angle as it was reported on CBC.
Not obtuse or acute, its just right.
Quark-Gluon Plasma Observed At LHC (Score:4, Funny)
I'm glad the OP mentioned that Canadians had a hand in this. Otherwise I would have assumed they didn't.
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It seems funny the way they have said "including Canadians", however the link is to a Canadian publication, primarily intended for Canadian readers.
Just FYI
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It's worse in TFA, actually. I don't know about other countries, but in the American and British stuff I read, you just don't see this kind of bullshit. Seriously, four separate mentions of Canada in that tiny article, plus a sidebar about what Canada has been working on.
I mean, really? Does Canada really have that small an ego? When was the last time an American publication had to remind us that they were talking to Americans who work on the LHC, that Americans helped build it, etc?
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Quark Glue-ons (Score:1, Funny)
A Ferengi with a Glue-on observed moments after the big bang?
Its like horrible geek porn. I must retreat to the relative artistic successes of the Star Wars Christmas Special.
Re:Quark Glue-ons (Score:4, Funny)
+1 funny
Eh! (Score:4, Funny)
Canadian observes quark-gluon plasma, then immediately apologizes.
Including Canadians, and... (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm a canuck and would be happy to celebrate a discovery by my compatriots, but it doesn't make much sense to say the team that made this ion-shattering discovery 'included canadians' when it included a lot of other nationalities too.
From TFA:
Canadians make up more than 150 of the researchers involved in ATLAS.
From Wiki [wikimedia.org]:
The project is led by Fabiola Gianotti and involves roughly 2,000 scientists and engineers at 165 institutions in 35 countries.
So.. how about we say 'Horray for people!' or something like that.
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No I think it's reasonable to point it out explicitly. If they had just said "Observed by a team of researchers", you would fairly quickly assume that there wouldn't be any Canadians in that team, for obvious reasons.
Just like if a blind guy had ascended Mount Everest, the news article would read "A team of mountaineers, including a blind guy, ...".
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I'm a canuck and would be happy to celebrate a discovery by my compatriots, but it doesn't make much sense to say the team that made this ion-shattering discovery 'included canadians' when it included a lot of other nationalities too.
Well, as I understand it, the Canadians were mainly in the facility to get warm.
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Yeah, the warmer liquid helium will do wonders for the Canadian's cheeks..
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1. Quark gluon plasmas are rare in Switzerland
2. Canadians are rare in Switzerland
3. Therefore, anything related to quark gluon plasmas is intrinsically Canadian in nature
this is all perfectly logical
second city attitude. (Score:3, Funny)
It is so sad. It is a place of contrasts, the sally-fields-like desperation for acknowledgement against the smugness of not being Americans (even though nobody else can tell).
No wonder you're getting strange results.... (Score:2)
*sigh* Canadians......
"Someone get sally-fields out of the collider so we can get back to work."
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the smugness of not being Americans (even though nobody else can tell)
It's true. Whenever I find a find out a famous person is from Canada it's always a mild surprise.
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It was a misquote:
'Striking' evidence of a quark-gluon plasma has been observed by a team of researchers, at the facility near Geneva, the European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN) announced Friday, however some of them were Canadians."
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I'm a canuck and would be happy to celebrate a discovery by my compatriots, but it doesn't make much sense to say the team that made this ion-shattering discovery 'included canadians' when it included a lot of other nationalities too.
Yes, but Canadians are the "special sauce" in any recipe. In my next project, I am going to insist that it "includes Canadians." Hell, Cajuns are displaced Canadians, and the whole world knows how good their cooking is: The secret ingredient? Canadians!
One of my cousins from Calgary sent me some seasoning, named "Bifteak de Montreal." It tastes fantastic, but I'm afraid to read what's in it . . .
Uh, oh, whatever happened to the Montreal Expos . . . ?
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The project is led by Fabiola Gianotti and involves roughly 2,000 scientists and engineers at 165 institutions in 35 countries.
As a young spud in one of my first big projects, the project manager kept dumping work one me. He told me two things: "In any big project, 5% of the people do 95% of the work." and "Work gravitates toward people who can do it."
I thought that he was trying to be funny, but now that I have 25+ years under my belt . . . I know better.
So how many of those "roughly 2,000 scientists and engineers at 165 institutions in 35 countries" are actually doing any work? Their conference calls must be a hoot and a half
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And if the article wanted to make the point that the Canadians are the ones who are "committed" and "actually doing any work", it could've said so, though I doubt they can back it up.
Without that, I still don't see the point of saying "including Canadians" unless Canada has a serious ego problem.
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That was just for safety. If something goes wrong.... "Blame Canada, blame Canada..."
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(Posting anonymously because I fear those certain political groups)
What do you think they're going to do, hunt you down based on your Slashdot pseudonym? Afraid of a few negative karma points? Don't be such a coward, silly rabbit.
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Including Canadians (Score:1, Offtopic)
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Well, of course it was noteworthy. The quark-gluon plasma never would have been noticed if one of the Canadians hadn't dropped maple syrup in to the Collider.
Flag should be a white cross on a red background (Score:2, Informative)
Why there's a red maple leaf there is beyond me.
I'm a Canadian and like to toot our own horn but this was done by an international consortium in Geneva.
C'mon guys. Get the story straight.
Schroedinger's Cat (Score:1)
RHIC (Score:4, Informative)
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all the Candian jokes are nice and all.. but this really was about trying to make people think CERN is the only thing going on in HEP or nuclear physics. Not so, and this is not a first as RHIC was there first. [bnl.gov] Glad to see CERN is catching up though.
I thought the big deal with the LHC is that it was supposed to give us the Higgs Boson, as no other collider on earth was powerful enough to create the Higgs. Enough about this QGP junk. Where's our Higgs Boson?
Quark-Gluon Plasma (Score:2)
Practical usage? (Score:3, Funny)
So, when will I be able to buy a Quark-Gluon Plasma TV?
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I don't think they'll ever make it to market, they require gigawatts of power and they break down every few months.
Eh? (Score:1, Funny)
'Striking' evidence of a quark-gluon plasma has been observed by a team of researchers, including Canadians, at the facility near Geneva...
There's three ways to interpret that.
1) Canadians were present during the observation.
2) The quark-gluon plasma said, "Hey! What'cha looking at buddy?".
or
3) Canadians have spread so far, they've now overrun the LHC, and our only chance to find particles that repel them is lost!
Less Canadocentric article (Score:3, Interesting)
http://www.symmetrymagazine.org/breaking/2010/11/26/new-insight-into-primordial-universe-from-the-lhc/ [symmetrymagazine.org]
Re:Offensive (Score:4, Funny)
"This experimental setup was so simple, that your grandmother could understand it."
Two choices, pick one or both:
This experimental setup was so simple, even the president could understand it.
This experimental setup was so simple, even the former president could understand it.
Fixed that for em'.
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Grandfathers are rocket scientists, of course they can understand it.
Duh.
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What about my an idiot?
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Who cares about your an idiot? His an idiot is the only one that matters!
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What an idiot?
Quark-Gluon Plasma? (Score:5, Funny)
It Must Be Pointed Out (Score:3, Funny)
Hundreds of thousands converged in South Africa for the World Cup opening ceremonies, including Canadians.
Overwhelming amounts of aid have poured in to Haiti from around the globe, including Canadians.
'Striking' evidence of a quark-gluon plasma has been observed by a team of researchers, including Canadians.
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You mean 'Canadians' as in northern gringos?
Sorry to pull your leg, I live in México but according to our mutual neighbors, I live in Central America.
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That's the problem with generalisations. They are all stupid.
head explodes
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I don't see why this is modded flamebait-- Offtopic would be more appropriate, since the main subject line really is true. Either both sexes are treated interchangeably in all circumstances, or they are not being treated equal. "Separate but equal" is nonsense in this respect. If there is a draft, it should apply to everyone, not just males-- etc.
Granted, it could have been put forward in a more polite fashion, but the basic gist of it is true. (And any arguments about women being physically weaker than men
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This one needs a few -1 offtopics and a few more +1 interestings.
I've always found it weird that women are allowed and sometimes even encouraged to hit men, but the other way around would result in a quickly-won lawsuit of assault and battery. It's unfair, it's against the whole idea of feminism (wasn't it all about equality, at one point?), and it just makes me want to smack a bitch. (For certain values of bitch, I.E.: female superiority feminists)
There, I said it. Hit me.
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Also, as SF-fed geeks, we tend to live in an idealistic world where men and women just have a chromosomic and trivial biological differences. The reality is different with income/education differences, and social roles that still are very far from implementing equality.
The first thing a baby hears is "It is a girl !" or "It is a bo
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I personally approach it from the personal experience I have had with my sister-- She used to be a power lifter in highschool, and could squat 300lb. (no, she was NOT a fatchick.)
The major difference was that she was NOT raised to be a "Pretty in pink" type woman, but instead to be a practical one. We grew up in an agricultural community, and having some brawn was practical. You just cant throw hay-bails without it. I am her full brother, and she was ALWAYS stronger than me.
It is my contention that most of
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But somehow, it is "unforgivably" wrong when a man hits a woman, but not when a woman hits a man. That's the problem the OP is getting at, and I agree. If we are going to treat the sexes as equals, then they should both be equally strikeable for strikeable offenses. (EG, did they hit you? If so, you should be justified to hit back
Justified perhaps, yes. But would it be the right thing to do?
Besides, search the web and find the many references to abused women, and almost zero references to abused men. It's a taboo in Western civilization.
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lorazepam
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Amazing what two little words can do to the comments section of slashdot. My guess is nobody actually RTFA, and everyone was too busy cracking jokes about the summary to care.
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I did read TFA. It didn't really help...
"Striking" evidence of a quark-gluon plasma has been observed by a team of researchers, including Canadians...
"People have been searching for evidence of this for decades," Canadian physicist Richard Teuscher said Friday...
The results of the experiment... were accepted Friday morning for publication in the scientific journal Physical Review Letters, less than 24 hours after it was submitted, said Teuscher, a research scientist at the Canadian Institute for Particle Physics and a physics professor at the University of Toronto....
Peter Krieger, an associate professor of physics at the University of Toronto, said a detected called the forward calorimeter built in Canada...
Plus a nice little sidebar called "Canadian content," which says:
Canadians make up more than 150 of the researchers involved in ATLAS. They have mainly been involved with designing, building, and operating detectors called liquid argon calorimeters...
Basically, what I got from reading TFA is that man, Canada has a serious ego problem. And yes, it's a groundbreaking discovery, but damn that's distracting.
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I don't watch the six o'clock news much. When I do watch any sort of news, I do see news of events happening outside the US -- and what I don't see is "Americans" or "US Citizens" every other sentence just to make sure I know we're important.
I mean, I can pick up US News and World Report, which is going to be news from all over from a decidedly American perspective, and it's still not likely to happen.
I don't even see this kind of stuff on Fox News, let alone legitimate news sources. In fact, about the only
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