US Army Develops Tooth Cleaning Gum 160
pryoplasm writes "To help deal with some of the hygiene issues on the battlefield, the US Army worked on a gum to take the place of brushing your teeth. This might be eventually released and marketed to the public. While there are many gums out there that aren't so detrimental to your teeth, this one promises actually to help them out."
Let's hope these go international (Score:3, Insightful)
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It's not just a sugar free gum, it apparently contains a protein that actively kills bacteria.
Besides, artificial sweeters are bad for you. I've just stopped chewing gum altogether..
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"Besides, artificial sweeters [sic] are bad for you."
You overgeneralize.
Inositol looks, tastes, and feels like table sugar, although perhaps not as sweet. It is not only not harmful, it is beneficial enough that it was once considered a B-vitamin.
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I wouldn't call it artificial though, it's present naturally in foods and even produced in body apparently.
It's the chemicals that we haven't evolved to ingest with that I'm worried about.
Sugarless gum??!? (Score:4, Informative)
Hey, I thought thats what sugarless gum has been used for..... years now? Wonder what this development cost the military/US govt?
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Maybe it works, you know, better than sugarless gum?
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I'd love to see the dose-response curves for their protein fragment, KSL vs. something like Xylitol. If it works better, great. If not, Xylitol is cheap and it works.
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Odds are it doesn't. I find most things are worse than what we already have, and if those bonehead scientists took 5 seconds to ask someone they'd know that. That's my world view of course, as all I know is only going by what I read on /.
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all I know is only going by what I read on /.
No wonder you're so cheerfully optimistic.
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Its true. If you look at every post, there's always some old dude saying "eh, this is just XXXX which YYY did back int the 70s. Big deal!" iPhone? We had an iGrammaPhone did the same shit!
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What would be wrong with including both in the gum, so as to create a two-pronged attack? Seems to me it might be a great addition to hit the bacteria that Xylitol doesn't.
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In addition to those, this particular gum adds a third means: it has a protein that specifically attacks plaque producing bacteria.
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That's not gum. They're little brush-like things that you move around your teeth by chewing.
At least, if you're thinking of the same machines that I am.
(Am I the only one who misread the headline as "tooth cleaning gun", BTW?)
Re:Sugarless gum??!? (Score:5, Funny)
"The report also explains that US Army researchers developed a protein that attacks the bacteria that causes plaque, which can lead to gum disease. This protein can easily be incorporated into the gum, making it a serious alternative to toothbrush and toothpaste, the researchers claim. "
Lets hope ingesting the protein doesn't have any harmful side-effects, like priapism.
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Lets hope ingesting the protein doesn't have any harmful side-effects, like priapism.
OK, do go on. How do you get from dental plaque to priapism? Now, I realize that Viagra's main selling point fell out as a side effect of a high blood pressure medication. But that all makes sense - erections are controlled in part by blood flow and pressure.
I'm having a bit of a problem working out any plausible mechanism between bacteria hanging out in your gums and a chronic boner.
Maybe it's just me...
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Dude, I said "like."
At first I was thinking birth defects, but I wanted to keep it light.
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Yes, it is just you, looking too far in to things trying to find a reason to argue over a useless point.
HE WAS LINKING A MAN-MADE SOLUTION TO A PROBLEM TO A NEW MAN-MADE SOLUTION.
Jesus, you remind me of Malcolm from Malcolm in the Middle, most pretentious "intelligent" kid ever.
Yeah, mark me as troll, i don't even care. Anything to get through to bonehead above me.
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That, and to the parent: thanks, you nearly made me spew chocolate milk on my computer. well played.
Re:Sugarless gum??!? (Score:5, Informative)
I guess the researchers forgot to read the Wikipedia article on Xylitol Jenkki [wikipedia.org] first.
Seriously, this has been invented over 35 years ago (in 1975). And to add insult to injury, the word "Jenkki" is derived from "Yankee" and means an American in Finnish.
Or is the problem that Xylitol is patent-free while this new molecule might not be? You can't charge $10 per piece for a nonproprietary gum...
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Yeah, that'd be like charging $900 for a toilet seat. Who would pay that?
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You can't charge $10 per piece for a nonproprietary gum...
You can if that's what it costs to make it and people are willing to pay it.
Re:Sugarless gum??!? (Score:4, Interesting)
Xylitol inhibits mutans streptococci in the presence of other sugars, with the exception of fructose.
Well, I guess that means it's ineffective for Americans.
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I think that means you just need to not put fructose in the gum, or drink HFCS-containing beverages while you chew the gum etc (i.e. not have fructose in your mouth at the time)
Actually NOT Sugarless gum. (Score:2, Informative)
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Xylitol is not an artificial sweetener.
Re:Sugarless gum??!? (Score:5, Informative)
Ah, I just love it when the self aggrandized call others idiot on the Internet, especially when they can do it from behind relative anonymity.
As .... I .... said ... I thought that is what sugarless gum nee Xylitol has been used for years. Xylitol for the laymen out there inhibits bacteria, specifically mutans streptococci, one of the predominant bacteria involved in tooth decay.
I know a little something about proteins and chemistry as I had to take years of coursework in chemistry and biochemistry to get the Ph.D., so please... tone down the arrogance a bit, O.K.? It makes Slashdot a much more pleasant place.
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Ah, I just love it when the self aggrandized call others idiot on the Internet, especially when they can do it from behind relative anonymity.
As .... I .... said ... I thought that is what sugarless gum nee Xylitol has been used for years. Xylitol for the laymen out there inhibits bacteria, specifically mutans streptococci, one of the predominant bacteria involved in tooth decay.
I know a little something about proteins and chemistry as I had to take years of coursework in chemistry and biochemistry to get the Ph.D., so please... tone down the arrogance a bit, O.K.? It makes Slashdot a much more pleasant place.
Easy there Dr... You were not precise with your first posting and deserved to be corrected. Specifically, your first post did not mention Xylitol at all. You only said that you thought that "sugarless gum" has been used to clean teeth for years. Not all sugarless gums contain bacteria-inhibiting Xylitol and thus not all can be interpreted to clean teeth. Additionally, Xylitol is added to most gums in low quantities that make it ineffective as a bacteria inhibitor, so it's primary function in gum is as
Re:Sugarless gum??!? (Score:4, Informative)
Who said it was?
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The article is talking about a recently discovered protein that inhibits plaque growth.
You are talking about Xylitol, which is not a protein.
This article is not about Xylitol. QED.
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Granted that you never made the explicit statement "Xylitol is a protein."
However, your two [slashdot.org] posts [slashdot.org] (leaving aside the hypocrisy of the arrogant manner in which you complained about arrogance in posting) are uselessly conflating three different things: sugarless gum (which may or may not contain xylitol or this protein that the Army has developed), xylitol (one of a few sugar substitutes used in sugarless gum, and not a protein), and the gum that is the subject of this article (which is almost certainly sug
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Super-plaque bacteria, here we come.
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Super-plaque bacteria, here we come.
Anti-bacterial agents are only a very minor part of the toothpaste. It's mostly about detergents helping mechanically removing bacteria and rotting organic matter.
There's little evolution can do to let a bacteria resist getting physically yanked off the surface of teeth if it wants to be able to feed on the remnants of your meals. With merely killing germs, survivors can not only reproduce again but they even have some food readily available.
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... which can lead to gum disease...
SEE! THAT'S why chewing gum is so bad!! Who wants gum disease?!!?
Nothing new... (Score:4, Informative)
All kinds of military developments have filtered out to the civilian market.
Antiperspirant/deodorant. GPS. Radar. Microwave communication.
It's just how some things develop.
LK
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All kinds of military developments have filtered out to the civilian market.
Antiperspirant/deodorant. GPS. Radar. Microwave communication.
And hopefully, that first item will eventually filter out even to the Slashdot market!
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Don't forget guns.
Re:Nothing new... (Score:5, Funny)
Yes. They were originally designed for killing people but were later found to have a wide range of household uses.
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Considering that quite a few robberies include bastards invading a house when the occupants are in, yes, guns do have an important household use.
And an even more important dark alley use.
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Considering that quite a few robberies include bastards invading a house when the occupants are in,
Well, if they invade the house when nobody is home, its not a robbery at all is it? It's a burglary.
I'd like to see guns used for crimes against the English language.
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Guns aren't toys - they’re for family protection, hunting dangerous or delicious animals, and keeping the King of England out of your face.
This amazing new invention (Score:2, Funny)
It freshens your breath and whitens your teeth!
AMAZING!
The Army's New Motto (Score:1, Funny)
Original attribution (Score:5, Informative)
Every time I see that quote attributed to Duke Nukem, I bristle. The original quote came from a 1988 movie called They Live [imdb.com], starring wrestler "Rowdy" Roddy Piper and Keith David. I actually paid good money to go see that at a theater!
I guess Duke Nukem made the phrase famous, but still, it was blatantly stolen. The exact quote is:
In the movie, Roddy had just burst into a bank with shotguns looking to kill him some aliens. When he delivered the line, I thought I was going to die laughing, it was so over-the-top. Anyone who likes Duke Nukem should see the movie at some point to enjoy the original source of the quote in all of its glory.
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Agreed 100%. They Live and the Evil Dead series are required watching for all fans of Duke Nukem.
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(ref: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BritishTeeth [tvtropes.org])
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Every time I see that quote attributed to Duke Nukem, I bristle.
Yes, I'm pretty sure he stole it from The IT Crowd.
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FFS - at least get the *REAL* ref right - They Live [wikipedia.org]
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The English speaking world, where armchair is one word.
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Slashdot, where arm chair scientists get shouted down and arm chair theologians get modded up.
The English speaking world, where armchair is one word.
Support your right to arm chairs! --- or is it to arm "chair theologians." ?
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lol - nice catch. I apologize to all those that can actually spell.
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And in peacetime, "We came to kick ass and chew bubble gum, and we're all out of ass".
Dental sealants a better option? (Score:1)
It's a laxative! (Score:2, Interesting)
We always had a good rumor that the "gum" in the MRE's was a laxative. I wonder what rumor will pop up about this gum.
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If it contains xylitol, then it IS a laxative (as a side effect)
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At 0.5kcal per Smint pastille, and 9 calories per 5gm of pure Xylitol, we can back-of-a-napkin calculate you'd need to consume approximately 180 Smint pastilles in one day to see these effects, assuming that all of the calorific content of a Smint is pure Xylitol.
If you need to consume that many mints per day, you should see a dentist pretty sharpish. Something in there is rotting, and needs removing.
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You've obviously never experienced the effects first hand then because I can tell you, if you go through too much Trident with xylitol gum, you will feel like absolute crap. The sugar alcohol content is high enough they print warnings on the label about it. I don't think it's far fetched to assume some people's sensitivity and the unknown actual amount in these tooth brushing MRE chewing gum supplements (which was probably pretty high since it was made to clean teeth) would lead to the gum acting as a laxat
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"We always had a good rumor that the "gum" in the MRE's was a laxative."
The Peanut Butter took care of that quite nicely. :)
I Read That as "Gun" For A Second There (Score:5, Funny)
Tooth cleaning in the 41st millenium (Score:2)
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/6194/adeptusorthodontusvscsm.jpg [imageshack.us]
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/4944/nottoothfairy.jpg [imageshack.us]
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One of the best dentists I have had was a military dentist. One of the worst dentists I have had was also a military dentist. Growing up a brat in the 60s and 70s, I got a good taste of military medicine. Even had emergency oral surgery TWICE with military dentists (had a tooth broke off to at the gum line at 13, and had an impacted wisdom tooth abscess at 19 while in the AF). Those weren't the best experiences. Because of my security clearance, they couldn't get someone in to debrief me, so they could
Available to the public now (Score:1)
http://www.jbox.com/product/SNK041 [jbox.com]
Only in Japan, I suppose.
Article dated 21st Dec 2005? (Score:5, Insightful)
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I guess the /. submission backlog is really as bad as the Immigration and Neutralization services
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Re:Article dated 21st Dec 2005? (Score:5, Funny)
Indeed, this story is a bit long in the tooth.
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You don't need one when you only ever fly solo.
I can save them a billion dollars (Score:2)
squeeze a line of colgate onto the basin and let it sit overnight. In the morning... gum.
Robots don't have teeth... (Score:2)
How exactly is this going to help our future robot armies?
Seriously, gum? It's only a matter of time before humans won't need to die on battlefields; Let's work harder on making this a reality and focus less on long term foot-soldier tech. The soldiers of the future won't need teeth cleaning gum because they'll be safe at home, remote controlling robotic drones -- toothpaste only yards away.
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safe at home, remote controlling robotic drones -- toothpaste only yards away.
a job that they'll then outsource to a country where they don't have to pay their 'soldiers' so much. In order to keep productivity up, some real soldiers will be required to stand guard with great big whips. Those soldiers will need gum - no time to brush your teeth when there's whipping to be done!
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It's only a matter of time before humans won't need to die on battlefields
Humans don't need to die on battlefields. Humans choose to die on battlefields.
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You are very naive Hatta,
Many people have no choice but to die. Their battlefields are their homes. They struggle to have a meager life only to be ruthlessly attacked and killed.
They have no choice....
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Crooked teeth (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Crooked teeth (Score:4, Insightful)
There is also the fact that frequently chewing gives you crooked teeth.
No it doesn't. In fact research has shown that chewing gum actually straightens your teeth, correctly aligns your jaw, assists in building upper body muscle strength, improves learning and memory function in the brain, and can increase the size of your penis and duration of your erections by up to 58%.
(you didn't provide a source for your 'fact' so I don't see why I should)
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hygiene issues IS news for nerds (Score:4, Funny)
When they help deal with some of the hygiene issues, it IS news for nerds; stuff that matters!!!
Really? No link checking at ALL? (Score:2, Funny)
By Simon Pitman, 21-Dec-2005
-=- 2005-=- Maybe it's been stuck in the queue this whole time?
Hygenine (Score:2)
Is that some kind of organic molecule? What's its formula?
Biotene Gum and enzymes? (Score:2)
Sounds a lot like Biotene gum, which uses a combination of the enzymes Lysozyme, Glucose Oxidase, and Lactoperoxidase to destroy bacteria. Lysozyme directly attacks the peptidoglycans in bacterial cell walls, while Glucose Oxidase generates Hydrogen Peroxide from Glucose (in the gum). Lactoperoxidase then uses the peroxide to destroy bacteria as well.
I chew this stuff pretty often, it's better than regular gum for getting rid of bad breath. Only problem is that if you chew too much, it can give you a sto
Been There, Done That (Score:2, Interesting)
I thought Dentyne gum did that many years ago?
Is there a reason we're posting old news (Score:2)
This story is half a decade old.
Come on Slashdot, get with the program.
Oblig. Futurama reference (Score:2)
If the army is handing it out, is it ham-flavored?
Re:Oblig. Futurama reference (Score:4, Insightful)
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Why don't you just chew on a piece of ham?
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Why don't you just chew on a piece of ham?
You can chew a piece of gum for half an hour. A piece of ham would be gone in two minutes.
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Pickles are low calorie and very salty.
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yeah, but do you really want to go down the street sucking on a big huge pickle?
Have you never seen the "pickle pops" that some convenience stores sell? They're chilled pickles on a stick.
(pretty sure they got the idea from the book Some Summer)
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You don't suck on it, you bite pieces off it. Hold it like a cigar if it makes you feel more manly.
Re:Oblig. Willy Wonka reference (Score:2)
If that sort of gum becomes a reality, be sure to spit it out before you get to the dessert, unless you fancy inflating like a giant blueberry.
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If the army is handing it out, is it ham-flavored?
Judging by the Military's approach to field rations so far, I'm guessing it tastes like fermented cardboard, and has at least a 50/50 chance of causing constipation.
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Almost all our chewing gum has xylitol these days (or some sugar alcohol or something like xylitol).
Bubble gum is different, but chewing gum (like "adult" gum) is all marketed as being good for teeth and stuff