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## US Objects To the Kilogram538

Velcroman1 writes "For 130 years, the kilogram has weighed precisely one kilogram. Hasn't it? The US government isn't so sure. The precise weight of the kilogram is based on a platinum-iridium cylinder manufactured 130 years ago; it's kept in a vault in France at the International Bureau of Weights and Measures. Forty of the units were manufactured at the time, to standardize the measure of weight. But due to material degradation and the effects of quantum physics, the weight of those blocks has changed over time. That's right, the kilogram no longer weighs 1 kilogram, according to the National Institute of Standards and Technology. And it's time to move to a different standard anyway. A proposed revision would remove the final connection to that physical bit of matter, said Ambler Thompson, a NIST scientist involved in the international effort. 'We get rid of the last artifact.'"
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## US Objects To the Kilogram

• #### BASE16 (Score:5, Funny)

on Friday October 29, 2010 @02:45PM (#34066712) Journal
Death to KILLograms!
Ounces and pounds were way a head of the time and are becoming even more useful with the advent of computer systems and the common use of base16.

16 ounces in a Pound is not just coincidence.

F=15 ounces
10 = a pound

We can all agree, I am sure, it's easier to look at 89 and go, 8 pounds 9 ounces. With metric I have to keep moving the decimal place around and remember how many 0s there were in huge words like kilogram, milligram, centigram.
• #### Re:Get rid of the artifact? (Score:5, Funny)

on Friday October 29, 2010 @02:48PM (#34066760) Homepage
Well, you can try counting atoms. But apparently that turns out to be a royal pain.
• #### Re:BASE16 (Score:0, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 29, 2010 @02:49PM (#34066770)

You could probably sound more retarded, but I'm unsure as to how.

• #### Best of Both Worlds (Score:4, Funny)

on Friday October 29, 2010 @02:49PM (#34066772) Homepage Journal

We have American pints and British pints; the imperial tone, the short ton, and the tonne; why not have an American kilogram and traditional kilogram as well? That should really simplify things for NASA/EUA coordination.

• #### Who cares? (Score:5, Funny)

<nathan @ n a t h anpralle.com> on Friday October 29, 2010 @02:50PM (#34066784) Homepage Journal
It's the US of A -- we don't use the kilogram anyway. Change it as you like.

That being said, keep your filthy hands off my hogshead.
• #### The difficulty of standard artifacts (Score:5, Funny)

on Friday October 29, 2010 @02:51PM (#34066802) Homepage

"There is one thing of which one can say neither that it is one metre long, nor that it is not one metre long, and that is the standard metre in Paris." - Wittgenstein, Philosophical Investigations

• #### Re:Best of Both Worlds (Score:5, Funny)

on Friday October 29, 2010 @02:51PM (#34066810)

That's it! Define a kilogram in terms of pints. Now, the quandary: ale or lager?

It makes as much sense to define a kilogram as some huge number of moles of banana pudding or something like that.

• #### I think I need more coffee (Score:1, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 29, 2010 @02:51PM (#34066814)
I read the title as "US Objects To the Klingon". @.@
• #### Re:Speaking as a metric man (Score:5, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 29, 2010 @02:52PM (#34066828)

then how do you define a liter?

OH I JUST BLEW YOUR MIND

• #### Re:Who cares? (Score:5, Funny)

on Friday October 29, 2010 @02:52PM (#34066830)
I think the American Association of Cocaine Dealers would object to arbitrarily getting rid of the kilogram!
• #### No more gold standard (Score:5, Funny)

on Friday October 29, 2010 @02:54PM (#34066856) Journal

We're going to let the kilogram "float" and put it on the commodities market. It should triple the value of the gram

• #### Re:Speaking as a metric man (Score:3, Funny)

on Friday October 29, 2010 @02:55PM (#34066878) Homepage Journal

Why the amount of water that weighs 1kg of course!

• #### It's true... (Score:5, Funny)

on Friday October 29, 2010 @02:58PM (#34066916)

I'm not even sure we even use Imperial units anymore...

From reading the news, I believe our units are:
- Hairs
- Stories
- Football Fields
- Libraries of Congress

• #### Re:Best of Both Worlds (Score:5, Funny)

on Friday October 29, 2010 @02:59PM (#34066928) Homepage Journal

Wouldn't a mole made out of banana pudding degrade pretty quickly itself?

And how could it burrow?

Solution fail. Tasty, tasty solution fail...

• #### Re:BASE16 (Score:3, Funny)

on Friday October 29, 2010 @03:00PM (#34066954)

ha ha space cadet
they are the same thing
silly human

• #### Re:BASE16 (Score:2, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 29, 2010 @03:03PM (#34067012)

CPUs use base 2 and many Computer "Systems" use base 16.

I'm human and I use base 8. Worked in a knife sharpening factory as a kid. :(

• #### Nyuk (Score:1, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 29, 2010 @03:08PM (#34067118)

Of course it only makes sense to use guacamole, not banana pudding. Then the conversion is a simple computation based on Avocado's number.

• #### Re:Speaking as a metric man (Score:3, Funny)

on Friday October 29, 2010 @03:09PM (#34067132) Journal

It's the amount that fits into a cube that has a side equal to N wavelengths of light from the relaxation transition of atom X.

Oh I just stepped on your dick!

• #### Re:Get rid of the artifact? (Score:5, Funny)

<kfmsd AT harrelsonfamily DOT org> on Friday October 29, 2010 @03:14PM (#34067244) Homepage

No. The reference electrons are specially-calibrated in the lab to meet the exacting standards of the measurements industry. If you start using sub-standard electrons, you get sub-standard measurements.

I have personally seen the effects of creating matter using electrons with a charge of -0.93 instead of the usual -1. The matter that we were shipping had a net positive charge, so we had to include EXTRA electrons in the order so that the USP guy what not fatally electrocuted when he picked up the box. Do you have any idea how much those extra electrons cost my company?

Please do not even get me started about cut-rate protons. What happens when heavy water is not quite so heavy? You don't even want to know.

• #### Question... (Score:3, Funny)

on Friday October 29, 2010 @03:17PM (#34067312) Homepage

How does "America" define the pound...?

• #### Re:No more gold standard (Score:5, Funny)

on Friday October 29, 2010 @03:18PM (#34067336) Journal

Fractional Reserve Physics FTW!

• #### Re:Who cares? (Score:3, Funny)

on Friday October 29, 2010 @03:20PM (#34067372) Journal

In fact, just the other day my son referred to a distance a centimeters. in casual conversation.

And some kid didn't come out of the bushes, punch him, call him a nerd, and run off?

• #### Re:Get rid of the artifact? (Score:3, Funny)

on Friday October 29, 2010 @03:29PM (#34067506)

easy, it is how many weight exactly one kilogram

• #### Re:BASE16 (Score:3, Funny)

on Friday October 29, 2010 @03:31PM (#34067542)
0xFA0^2 = 0xFA0 Or did you mean pow(0xFA0, 2)?
• #### Re:BASE16 (Score:3, Funny)

on Friday October 29, 2010 @03:34PM (#34067590)
GP really loves pies, apparently.
• #### Re:Get rid of the artifact? (Score:5, Funny)

on Friday October 29, 2010 @03:36PM (#34067606)

Well, you can try counting atoms. But apparently that turns out to be a royal pain.

Or at least an Imperial pain. :)

• #### Re:Get rid of the artifact? (Score:2, Funny)

on Friday October 29, 2010 @03:41PM (#34067686)

No.. she is hard on something else entirely.

• #### Re:Get rid of the artifact? (Score:5, Funny)

on Friday October 29, 2010 @04:20PM (#34068198) Homepage Journal

title of this slashdot article should be:

Le Kilogramme is to walk the Planck. :)
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/10/28/official_french_kilogramme_marked_for_the_bin/ [theregister.co.uk]

• #### From our dept. of redundancy dept. (Score:2, Funny)

on Friday October 29, 2010 @04:32PM (#34068348)

"US Objects To the Kilogram"

Who knew ? Also the meter, the Celsius and the liter.

• #### Re:Get rid of the artifact? (Score:3, Funny)

on Friday October 29, 2010 @04:42PM (#34068450)

That reminds me the last question my college roommate had on his senior oral exam. He was a physics major and was asked how he would derive Avogadro's number without the aid of certain pieces of modern technology. As I recall, his answer started with something along the lines of the following: "First, I would find a really tiny man . . . "

• #### Re:Get rid of the artifact? (Score:3, Funny)

on Friday October 29, 2010 @04:47PM (#34068498)
the wallet?
• #### That was almost a haiku (Score:3, Funny)

<tepples&gmail,com> on Friday October 29, 2010 @05:43PM (#34069078) Homepage Journal

ha ha space cadet
they are the same thing
silly human

Here's one that scans better:

ha ha space cadet
they are the same frelling thing
you silly human

• #### Re:BASE16 (Score:4, Funny)

on Friday October 29, 2010 @06:33PM (#34069518)

Clearly you don't expect people to do hexadecimal floaing point calculations in their head?!

No, Mr. Bond, I expect you to 0xD1E!

• #### Re:Kilogram is a mass not a weight (Score:4, Funny)

on Friday October 29, 2010 @07:17PM (#34069818)

No, a Newton not a weight, it is a cookie.

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Fig_Newton [wikimedia.org]

And too many Newtons leads to weight gain.

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