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International Effort Brings an Open Standard For Docking In Space 140

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from the best-place-to-dock dept.
FTL writes "Engineers from the US, Russia, Japan, Canada and Europe have come together to publish an International Docking Standard for spaceships. Currently the space station has three different types of incompatible docking ports, and the Chinese are developing their own. Standardizing on one type would permit interoperability and facilitate emergency rescues."
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International Effort Brings an Open Standard For Docking In Space

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  • Re:Atmosphere (Score:5, Informative)

    by DigiShaman (671371) on Tuesday October 19, 2010 @08:40PM (#33955512) Homepage

    The Soviet atmosphere mimicked that of Earths at sea level. 20/80 ratio at 14.7 psi. NASA on the other hand used a pure 100% O2 ratio, so 5psi was all that you needed. And in case you didn't know, your body doesn't need nitrogen as it's an inert gas anyways.

  • Not true (Score:5, Informative)

    by DerekLyons (302214) <fairwater AT gmail DOT com> on Tuesday October 19, 2010 @08:42PM (#33955520) Homepage

    "Currently the space station has three different types of incompatible docking ports"

    No, it has two. APAS [wikipedia.org], which is used by Shuttle, and Probe and Cone used by Soyuz, Progress, and ATV.
     
    The third system (CBM [wikipedia.org]) is used by MPLM and HTV, and cannot be docked to. The difference is important - as the docking mechanism can take the full force of an approaching spacecraft, and berthing mechanisms cannot. To berth, one has to station keep with the station, and then be picked up and attached by the station's CANADARM-2 manipulator arm.

    The other important difference is size, APAS and Probe and Cone are limited to essentially man sized tunnels. CBM is a full sized door.

    The International Docking Standard actually already exists aboard the station - as APAS.

  • Re:Atmosphere (Score:5, Informative)

    by Catmeat (20653) <mtm AT sys DOT uea DOT ac DOT uk> on Tuesday October 19, 2010 @08:44PM (#33955532)
    Not exactly.... Apollo 1 was about 8 years beforeApollo-Soyuz. They kept flying with 100% oxygen until the Shuttle era.

    The US used pure oxygen because it meant the spacecraft presure could be less, while still delivering the same amount of O2 to the breather. Lower pressure meant a lighter spacecraft with thiner walls. Also, life support systems could be simpler - they just scrubed everything from the atmosphere that's wasn't oxygen.

    Only, on the ground waiting for launch, such a spacecraft would be at atmospheric pressure (to avoid imploding). While 100% O2 at low pressure isn't much of a fire-risk, 100% O2 at atmospheric pressure is a fire-catastrophe waiting to happen, which it duly did with Apollo 1.

    They solved the problem on Apollo by having a normal atmosphere on the ground. As the rocked ascended during launch, the concentration of oxygen slowly increaed, with the overall-pressure slowly reduced in step, so the partial pressure of oxygen remained constant. On the shuttle, they went to oxygen-nitrogen. A downside of this is the need to pre-breath oxygen for 24 hours before a spacewalk. Spacesuits operate at the lowest possible pressure and to go straight-outside in one would give you diver's bends. Bends were never a risk on Apollo as there was simply no nitrgen there to cause it.

  • Re:Atmosphere (Score:4, Informative)

    by AdmiralXyz (1378985) on Tuesday October 19, 2010 @08:46PM (#33955562)
    At 100% O2, the partial pressure of oxygen at 5 psi is actually higher than it is on Earth, so it's quite easy.

    Of course, there are other issues [wikipedia.org] with an all-oxygen atmosphere, but breathing isn't one of them. The idea was to reduce the amount of pressure the cabins had to be designed to withstand.
  • Re:Imagine (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 19, 2010 @08:48PM (#33955574)

    Imagine if *humans* didn't have standard docking ports.

    Not all do. The popular meaning might be a bit different than what you were thinking.

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=docking [urbandictionary.com]

  • Re:Atmosphere (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 19, 2010 @09:20PM (#33955820)

    There were several changes as a result of the Apollo I incident, but first a little background:

    All american manned spacecraft up until the shuttle was designed to work at a 5PSI pure oxygen environment. This pressure level gives you a similar oxygen content as on earth at sea level, but at a much lower pressure. There were a couple of main reasons for this.

    1) Simpler consumables management as nitrogen doesn't need to be carried as a consumable
    2) EVA activity simplified as no pre-breath required for the space suits. Even today, US space suits operate at about 5PSI (a bit less actually). Currently on the shuttle, the pressure on the shuttle is lowered (with a corresponding decrease in nitrogen content) to about 9psi as that requires a reasonably short pre-breath. I assume that the space station would be similar.

    The space shuttle changed to a sea level environment mainly because it was designed to be a normal work environment for non professionally trained astronauts. Didn't exactly work out that way but that was the intent.

    As to some of the factors of the Apollo I fire, the incident occurred during a test that had been performed on every manned flight within the US space program to that date. The pressure inside the capsule was actually closer to 18PSI pure oxygen as it was to test the pressure differential. In addition, the capsule hatch would only open into the capsule instead of outward. This made it impossible for anyone to open the hatch. The pure oxygen environment at that pressure created an extremely dangerous situation in terms of fire control, but nobody ever thought it was a problem, because it was a routine procedure.

    In terms of citation, you could read the Apollo I accident report which is in NASA's document repository, along with many other references. It isn't hidden knowledge.

  • Re:Atmosphere (Score:5, Informative)

    by AJWM (19027) on Tuesday October 19, 2010 @09:54PM (#33956050) Homepage

    Unlikely but still factual. What's combustible at 14.7 PSI pure O2 isn't necessarily so at 3 PSI (not 5) pure O2. 3 PSI O2 is roughly the partial-pressure of O2 in air at sea level.

    Even so, a lot of people said it was stupid at the time, and the post-Apollo 1 redesign of the vehicle, while not eliminating the pure O2 atmosphere for flight, did eliminate it during ground tests and also eliminated many potential ignition sources and potentially flammable components. (They also redesigned the cabin hatch to open outwards, quickly, rather than inwards -- increasing the risk of a possible blow-out but enabling for quick escape in the case of another fire.)

    Redesigning Apollo to use a sea-level-like air mix would have made it too heavy to get to the Moon on the existing Saturn V.

    Mind, as a resident of the Denver area and knowing that there are plenty of people living at even greater altitudes, I'm a little surprised they opted for 14.7 PSI for Shuttle when ~12 PSI works just fine. Commercial airliners pressurize the cabin to = 8000 feet, typically ~7000 feet or about 11.5 PSI, but you start running into issues with avionics cooling, comfort, and extreme exertion if you beyond that.

  • Re:Atmosphere (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 20, 2010 @12:06AM (#33956932)

    That would give you suits resembling fully-inflated balloons. Not so easy to move around in.

  • Re:Atmosphere (Score:5, Informative)

    by ceoyoyo (59147) on Wednesday October 20, 2010 @12:13AM (#33956966)

    Helium, neon, argon,krypton, xenon and radon are noble gasses. Nitrogen is an inert gas. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inert_gas [wikipedia.org]

    Nitric acid is not nitrogen gas. Neither are organic nitrates. I am very sorry for someone who confuses nitrogen gas and nitroglycerine.

  • Re:Atmosphere (Score:3, Informative)

    by Haeleth (414428) on Wednesday October 20, 2010 @07:00AM (#33958842) Journal

    Who remembers the docking computers in the C64 version of Elite?

    Not those of us who played the original BBC version. :P

    Waste of money anyway. Aim halfway between the planet and the station, then look out of the side window till you're lined up right, and then it's just a case of matching your rotation as you fly right in. Simple.

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